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1's, 2's and 3's. Hello 4's and 5's.
« on: November 01, 2016, 03:42:16 PM »
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  • We all have seen and witnessed countless weak shoes and of course--strong ones.  So many of us just put the stronger ones out of our memory for some strange reason----could it be that the highest majority forfeit their bankroll's wagering for the cut???  IMO, yes it is.  But onward.....

    1's, 2's and 3's.  So many, and probably the bulk or better than 60/70% of the shoes we play, for sure.  For sake of discussion I will call 1's 'chop/singles' and 2's as 'doubles' and 3's and 'triples'. 

    Start looking at the board results over a period of time.  I am sure you will see an equal amount of opportunity to wager some great prevailing bets focusing on some type of cut/chop with the redundant singles/doubles and triples coming out.  However, and a huge however, there are just as many prevailing wins that will kill you and grab your wagers right back to the house. 

    Like the other talk on here about 2's/doubles.  How some really think that there is a system to wager for the cut on singles/chop and if it makes repeating wins---just keep wagering the cut until it repeats 4 times!  LOL, that is one of the most absurd things---seriously, that I ever read on here!  Then wager for the 5th repeating one to keep going.  Sure 5's and 6's and 7's and 8's and more--do appear, but their consistency is extremely lesser than anything else. 

    A player cannot say, I will wager for the cut/chop because this game makes more singles and chops than anything else.  The only way to prevail at something like that, and of course---it would still be risky--is just to absolutely come in with say 2 wagers and that is all you will do.  Pick hypothetical numbers for those wagers like $1,000.00 and $2,000.00.   When it is weak or when it is strong for a while, go ahead and throw the $1,000.00 out there on the cut and if it loses, go ahead and throw out the other $2,000.00 on your cut/chop also.  That is it, that is the best chance IMO you have at doing something like this.  The exact spots/times to wager on those, is still up in the air and your guess.  But my point is, a continual pattern of wager for the 2nd repeat/or double and then continue with the cut/chop wager until it hits a 4th, 5th, 6th one is so far whacked out, it is pitiful.  You are actually trying to change the shoe! 

    By wagering this way, you are classifying that there is a system and preconceived results waiting to match what you say is and will be happening.  Then you throw in, saying heck, if it made 4 it will continue so we are going to ride the long streak and stop wagering the cut/chop that it was suppose to do.

    You mind will not allow to you to flip-flop like this.  Maybe, if you are doing it unconsciously but otherwise, NOT!  Here comes the twist to what I am saying.  You are attempting to change the shoe--not play what it is.  Last night I have seen some perfect examples all night long.  Meaning, it was the 4 in a row and everyone agrees for the chop/cut.  Stats say 3's and 4's are prevalently the cutting point, so let's go ahead and wager on the cut.  But I didn't subscribe to that in that instance because the shoe was weak, cuts and chops up to that point basically--bar a couple of 3's.  So the streak runs to 9 or 10 and everyone gets pretty much whacked on their Martindale progressive to play for the cut. Doesn't take long, $150 turns to $300 and $300 turns to $600 and $600 turns to $1,200.00.  Just in those 4 wagers a player will be down $2,250.00. 

    I do agree that, there are extremely rare shoes that will be consistently strong throughout.  If you like to play the cut/chop, IMO---the time to do it is after a strong section of the shoe.  Strong to me means, consistent 3's, 4's and 5's along with a 6 or 7 thrown in as well.  A section of the shoe means about 8-15 horizontal squares in the main road where the B or P is scored at the top and each repeating one is scored underneath of that one, etc. 

    How can you know the strong section is over or going to be over?  You cannot, the same way you cannot know if it will be weak and stay weak.  However, something very very strong in reoccurring results is that, there will be strong sections and once it fizzles out, it will be weak and choppy, etc., plain and simple and never stops doing that regime.  I know from my experiences, that the 1's and 2's and 3's (singles/doubles and triples) and possibly not even triples are so inevitable after the shoe was strong/running/consistent 3's plus results, that it screams 'wager the cut' with a huge percentage to have your wager prevail. 

    The kicker is, less is better and to me those types of opportunities are the 'key wagers'.  If you think I mean where it just made 7 Bankers and it is on the 4th or 5th player, to start wagering for cut--because I am not.  Many players will and many of them get wiped out by doing just that. 

    I see it so many times.  Friday and Saturday nights.  Strong shoes, 5-6-7 repeating Bankers and likewise, Players.  $50.00, they lose.  Next wager $100.00, they lose.  Next $200.00 and lose again.  Next $400.00 and lose again.  Next $800.00 possibly win.  Sometime lose.  Most, if not all would stop and not do the $1,600.00 to keep it going and that is where they all get crushed!  Good lord, just the wasted camaraderie and energy, blows me away.  Never ever used to be like this.  Now, just play for the cut and forego all the repeating.  What a darn waste!  Big time!


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    Re: 1's, 2's and 3's. Hello 4's and 5's.
    « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2016, 10:12:52 AM »
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    I see it so many times.  Friday and Saturday nights.  Strong shoes, 5-6-7 repeating Bankers and likewise, Players.  $50.00, they lose.  Next wager $100.00, they lose.  Next $200.00 and lose again.  Next $400.00 and lose again.  Next $800.00 possibly win.  Sometime lose.  Most, if not all would stop and not do the $1,600.00 to keep it going and that is where they all get crushed! Good lord, just the wasted camaraderie and energy, blows me away.  Never ever used to be like this.  Now, just play for the cut and forego all the repeating.  What a darn waste!  Big time!


    Happened the other night, a few shoes, so darn strong with repeating B's or P's.  And, almost everyone was on for the cut, all the time.  I was floored, the dealer was floored as well!  I am talking about no less then 7 or 8 times in each shoe where both the B's and the P's were going all the way down the board and then turning right with additional repeating hands.  Totally unbelievable! 

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    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2016, 12:45:04 PM »
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  • Happened the other night, a few shoes, so darn strong with repeating B's or P's.  And, almost everyone was on for the cut, all the time.  I was floored, the dealer was floored as well!  I am talking about no less then 7 or 8 times in each shoe where both the B's and the P's were going all the way down the board and then turning right with additional repeating hands.  Totally unbelievable!


    Welcome to the global effect. Glad you arrived.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2016, 03:33:42 PM »
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  • Global Effect=Sheer stupidity????

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    « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2016, 05:35:28 PM »
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  • Hey Al, Relax.

    From my perspective it's a major form of coincidence that directly relates to distribution statistics. Nothing caused the mystical look you had with the dealer. You both had an epiphany. I wonder what will cross your mind for the next few years. You think you know what it all means and you have the confidence to dismiss my information. I hope this is not a case of narcissism standing in your way. But reading your posts I am concerned that it might be exactly that. Didn't like it when I failed to become one of your followers did you? No use for me now in that form of narcissistic supply either primarily or secondarily. Why do you bore everyone to death with your ramblings? Just look at the daily boards on threads. This is not normal. If you need so much attention, then that's not like the rest of us. That's a tell too. Doesn't it bother you that many of your threads are only discussions with yourself? Now how do you like stupid? You yourself are a global effect. Ha!  :P
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    « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 06:42:57 PM »
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  • Sorry, I just can't get into the long term statics of computer programming whether it is the correct analysis of the end result or not.  I am a B&M type of player, always have been and always will be.  I play for the games at hand, not for the long term stats analyzed on a computer.

    I don't want followers, but if you don't like something or don't agree on it, why waste your own time????

    Simply don't read anything I write, nothing compels you to, there are no tests on here and if you truly hate-can't stand-find obnoxious, or as you already said, narcissist, why in the world would you still go on and read and then complain??  Seriously, you are not concerned you are provoking and trolling at this point.  Just refrain from do those and there is no problem and please stop trying to create one. 

    Within your last sentence you came on my thread, insulted me and attempted your slick humiliation as well.  It is really time for you to stop.  Be a man and do just that.

    Lots of what you do is probably correct, however, interfacing it at the baccarat table will not work the majority of the time because the 3 or 5 or 7 shoes one plays at hand, will not produce the results from 2,000 or 10,000 shoes etc.   

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    « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2016, 07:02:54 PM »
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  • I happen to know different. Anyone that has seen me stand up for the global effect over the past decade knows that I did it regarding Even Chance bets. Spike and I have defended reading randomness  since 2006. So not to go over board on your thread I will spend a few days and prove that the global effect is the greatest, most common opportunity in gambling. I'll do it over at the gizmotron section just to be polite. You really should take a look at it when it's done. I'm going to do this so that anyone should be able to see it clearly. The the braintrust of the gambling world can go about their Flat Earth response.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2016, 07:07:59 PM »
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  • You come on my thread and label me as stupid.  Okay, no problem.  Merry Christmas and all that stuff to you!

    However, I rather not go on your thread, it's not me.  In fact I rather go get into a real game of baccarat and do a few minuets of Double Dutch Bus with one of the cocktail waitresses in the aisle after hitting a couple of Fortune 7's. 

    My style is different than most of yours....however, when it stops being fun and a form of profitable entertainment, I might take up the hundreds of hours of research and computer theory and then try to bang out a $100 or whatever it is some of you do................




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  • yep, Narcissism// ...
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  • Absolutely.  While you are on the subject I do compare myself to the absolute greatest and from all places, Brooklyn!

    And he is out there dancing by himself because he is that good, yes---same as me, no darn different!!!!