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#1
Seems the results are good on the horror if just betting ONCE only after wLL...?

A.
#2
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@Stephen Tabone - that's you, that is!

Utter tripe!

You're twisting my words into things I never wrote and making inferences to support your own distorted point of view!

You do not know me or who I associate with or my business dealings or standing in the community - yet you have the gall to brazenly come on here and dare to make unfounded assumptions whilst at the same time attack and slight my character with untruths (stuff you only imagine or made up - or stuff you would really like to believe was true to suit your aggrieved stance of being discriminated against)

Anyone who read my post can see that there is no personal vindictiveness or attack in my message; just plain support for alrelax and the facts and experience regarding system sellers in general.

Malice and vindictiveness you say - look whose talking! You need to get off your high horse, stop ego-tripping and wake up and smell that cheap instant coffee you're drinking and get a reality check about what sort of a person you have become.

There is specialist help available for ppl like you. But first you need to want to change. You must want to sincerely reform and become a kinder more caring citizen who can contribute to society in a nicer, better and more effective way. But don't worry or get upset, bro. There's still time for you to change. You have it in you - if you will only but try. Be nice - and try to smile a bit more. You look a tad worried/shifty in those sunglasses pictures.   :glasses:

As for the many crooked members you accuse and go on about - there is only one crook in this saga and we all know who that is - Yes Sirreee!

And don't you ever, ever come back on here and attack me like that again or say things like you did about me on that two-bit fleabag forum of yours - because if you do.... you're making a big mistake.

A.
#3
Hi ADulay,

So yet another 24 hr new member comes on with an initial first post in support of Tabone. Good to see the mods were quick off the mark with this one. I suspected this new signup the moment they joined - and I've been proved right.
Obviously his sales are suffering and it's desperation stakes now.

It certainly appears that he is not willing (or very reluctant to say the least) to learn the lesson of his stinging and deserved defeat from the last time he tried these tactics. He doesn't seem to have accepted his wrongdoings and show any contriteness in any way. He will not accept his beating or apologise for his past behaviour so no perceived change for the better - no compliance with accepted forum etiquette. Instead he decides to return and continue in the same vein as before; spread broadcasting and bombarding the forum with Tabone trivialities; wherever he lays his hat that's his home... (ooh that reminds me of a song!  :)  )

A.
#4
Quote from: alrelax on September 08, 2017, 01:47:34 PM
I am on when i am on, LOL.  You are sure worried about me.  LOL.  You need to take your own advise.

Hi alrelax,

Tabone's back because he isn't doing very well on his OWN forum. You see he only has a piddling 9 members and no doubt most of those are aliases.. Heee Heee  :nod:
He can't get ppl to sign up and join it. They're not interested. And nobody else wants him on their forums too! They know what he's like and capable of!
He wants, needs and craves publicity for his book selling campaign and since he cannot post any of his book links on gamblingforum due to member restrictions there (where I exposed him), he'd rather come back on here with his proxies because he thinks he's more chance to get away with it and muster some badly needed exposure by rekindling interest for his ebooks.
How terribly sad is that?

A.
#5
alrelax is right.

No question about it. These 'system sellers' cannot stand for or allow the actual "truth" to be known, stated and laid out in black and white for everybody to see, witness and comprehend. That's because their business (system selling) is taking a knock and it's really harming their sales and profits.

So incensed and irate are they by these truthful revelations - which are undoubtedly wising up many prospective potential customers by now - that they feel they must quickly respond and strongly refute the allegations in the hope of sowing fresh seeds of doubt and swaying any 'waverers' or 'undecided' against rejecting their offerings completely out of hand.

They just cannot afford to have someone come on and warn customers away by outing them, 'blowing the gaff' and countering their so-called claims, results and testimonials. It's bad press - and bad for business!

These unscrupulous individuals that alrelax mentions and cautions us about are playing games and will stoop to even running their own forums to draw ppl into their web. They may have a hidden agenda - machinations to get fees from members in return for "secret strategies" and so on... Since they are running the show they can easily block input from well-meaning but dangerous parties who can patently see and wish to reveal what they are really up to.

I support and salute all members who stand up to these type of individuals in the interests of this forum and its members and who are brave and courageous enough to tell it like it really is. We must not spend our lives being influenced or falling for this garbage or be deluded into chasing rainbows for mythical pots of gold.

Take care and don't get fooled.

A.
#6
General Discussion / Re: Making the -2,7 to 0
August 22, 2017, 02:14:28 PM
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Formations :

123/321/231/312/213/132=Run (R) sign
121/232/131/313/212/323=Change (C) sign

we bet after 3 signs have formed and from there continuous play looking always the last 3 Signs

Betting selections:

RRR= Bet R
CCC= Bet C

RCR= Bet C
CRC= Bet R

RCC=Bet C
CRR=Bet R

RRC=Bet C
CCR=Bet R

Hi moglizu,

Maybe we can have different formations and triggers that might work equally as well or even better?

For instance on another forum a member writes about the infamous w3million CONSISTENT WINNING BET:

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I will give some help for the people that are still trying to find the bet.

The boffins bet is a loser... it's no better than betting randomly.

Flat betting is the only way.
If the betting selection is a winner the safest way is flat.

Flat betting means to bet in every spin the same amount of chips in every bet.

All I know is that I never lose a session by playing this bet.

I m not here to brag or to tease or to sell something.
I am here to help.
And yes... the people that are still searching the bet, get a great help of the things I am posting.

Find patterns that are happening more often and bet them.
Bet them flat... If your betting is a real winner it will be winning flat.

I would also like to make one proposition on the bet.
I have found that betting only 2 chips (of the movement) and not all 4. (dozens only? - A)

One day I found a bet that was fitting Charles clues 100%. I started testing it and I was surprised by the stability and the slow profits that was making (I repeat by betting 2 doz or 2 col or even both).

The phenomenon of RRCC-CCRR or RCCR-CRRC was happening all the time in my papers of tracking. (After the triggers).

I have found that betting only 2 chips (of the movement) and not all 4 is giving more stability. Although testing all 3500 spins with the 4 chips gave more profitability.

This can't be luck.
Even I am shocked at these results and the interesting point is that it's the ACETF bet Charles was describing in his clues.

The BR of this bet if played with 2 chips is 30 chips.

There are 2 kind of patterns to happen
1) AAAA or BBBB         
    ABAB or BABA         

2) AABB or BBAA
    ABBA or BAAB

The bet has triggers that trap the **2nd pattern**



If R = Runs (or repeat)
and
C= Change (or chop)

Possibly could bet after 3 "movements" or wheel dozen results to match the below criteria:


RRC - bet C         ;  CCR - bet R

RCC - bet R        ;  CRR - bet C

There would be a 'no-bet' if  last 3 results formed: RRR or CCC or RCR or CRC.

moglizu said:

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we bet after 3 signs have formed and from there continuous play looking always the last 3 Signs

You would look to 'trap' the qualifying formations only somehow.... (Maybe the triggers I'm using are not right. I don't know.- A)

Bet on R = bet the Last Dozen + the previously hit dozen.

Bet on C =  Ignore Last Dozen hit and bet the other 2 doz.

Flatbet (insurance cover on 0?)

Example:
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2                               First result recorded

1 C

1 R

1 R                           CRR = bet for C = bet d2+d3
           
2 C       win+1           RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d3     

3 C       win+1           RCC = bet for R = bet d3+d2

1 C       lost-2            CCC = no bet

1 R                            CCR = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R        win+1           CRR = bet for C = bet d2+d3     

3 C        win+1           RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d2
     
1 C        win+1           RCC = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R        win+1           CCR = bet for R = bet d1+d3

1 R         win+1          CRR = bet for C = bet d1+d3     

3 C         win+1          RRC = bet for C = bet d1+d2

2 C        win+1           RCC= bet for R = bet d2+d3

3 C         win+1          CCC = no bet 
         
3 R                            CCR = bet for R = bet d3+d2   

3 R         win+1          CRR = bet for C = bet d1+d2
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+9

Thoughts? Does anyone have a different interpretation to put forward?
I don't know however if something like this might pass the 100 spins or 100 bets challenge and always be in profit?
If could win 30 sessions of 100 spins or 100 bets and still be in + well that would be something! :)

Regards,
A.
#7
Roulette Forum / Re: Triplet Dozens
August 17, 2017, 06:15:14 PM
Thanks hexfex82,

Yes - the original way waiting for 2 non-repeat trigger is better/safer I think. One bet only. Maybe keep at flat bet too...?
Rather than trying to guess/predict.
However, I think overall something is missing to make this better. I need to think - but maybe a hedge is required and a token bet on the zero too. I am going to try and see if I can convert/tweak it somehow. I'm stopping play for now after a 'hard' session myself.
Thanks for your results. I'll come back to this again as I think something in it.

A.
#8
Roulette Forum / Re: Triplet Dozens
August 17, 2017, 10:47:19 AM
I like this as:
You're not playing every spin.
You can avoid some 0's because of that.
Plenty of time to record and chart play (less chance of mistakes)
Not complicated to understand and easy to spot triggers.
Playing on live dealer SPEED roulette is my preference. (with chat and sound off; I listen to my favorite music while playing)
Gives you time to think and not rushed to make decisions.
I know its just another Double Doz bet; but has a nice feelgood 'vibe' to me; patience required though.

Later maybe I try with separate progression for the columns.

Another way to play is to also record # of repeats and the # of same/diff. If you think an imbalance might be occurring (repeats lagging behind) then think about bet, bearing in mind 18/27 repeats is avg.

EG:
Triplet formations
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R
R
S
R
D
R
S

at this point you have 4 triplet repeats and 3 others = 4/3 to repeat.
I'm tempted to play for repeat to start to pull away any time soon...


Example session just now. First I check the past history marquee and get some triple results before starting play...

R=repeat triple
S=same triple
D=different triple

O=total same/different triples

311 R
212 R
332 R
232 R
312 D
222 S---- 4R/2O
132 D-----4R/3O L-2 -2
112 R-----5R/3O w+2 +0
332 R-----6R/3O w+1 +1
133 R-----7R/3O w+1 +2
121 R-----8R/3O w+1 +3
133 R-----9R/3O w+1 +4 - I stopped here and wait; expecting S or D
113 R-----10R/3O
221 R-----11R/3O
232 R-----12R/3O
113 R-----13R/3O

My gut is telling me expecting S or D to happen pretty soon seeing as I have 13 triple repeats out of 16 triple results I quit here.

(However, could have played for single dozen (S or D) here)

But I decide not to risk it and keep hold of my +4 and come back later for a new session

This is more flexible, individual approach and in the style of adapting and reacting to what the wheel is throwing at you + gut feeling/instinct rather than playing according to the strict, rigid rules of a systematic route.

Hope this helps.

A.
#9
General Discussion / JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW 2
August 17, 2017, 10:22:13 AM
@esoito Nice to see those aliases have been muted now  :whistle:

I saw this message on S. Tabone's personal site:
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I returned from Monaco (14th AUG 2017) where over that weekend I gambled my strategy for a whale in Casino de Monte-Carlo. I made him €75,000 and I received 15% commission from those wins and my 1st class travel, 5 star hotel and all expenses had also been paid for.

Sounds plausible - BUT - IS IT ACTUAL FACT?
I find it all the more passing strange that whilst he was away enjoying himself in the company of the whale in the Monaco locality at the Casino that this just happened to turn out to be the very same weekend that he would choose to even think of our little forum here at betselection.cc, and yet the logs show he found the time and temerity to interrupt his busy weekend schedule abroad to concentrate on posting several messages about 'alrelax' over that weekend period of Aug 12-13 (check the posts for time confirmation on that)

After his transgressions on the forum and also the deception he pulled on gamblingforums.com (posting under an alias to testimonial his OWN book with a positive review)


can anyone seriously believe this report of a jaunt over to Monaco? Does it have the ring of truth about it? Or maybe it is simply another false boast - further deception upon deception to try and lend some much needed favourable credibility for his ongoing book sales project??

A.
#10
General Discussion / Re: Enough with the spamming!
August 15, 2017, 12:33:54 PM
Quote from: esoito on August 15, 2017, 05:32:13 AM
And the Good News is....tada.....Tabone is now officially removed from the forum.

After all, he kept saying he would leave the forum but without actually doing it, so Victor has simply helped him through the door.

Let's all move on and find something useful to spend our remaining lifespans on.

Yes esoito. :)
The forum seems a cleaner, fresher and nicer place this morning.  :) :thumbsup: :nod: :applause:  :whistle:
#11
General Discussion / Re: Enough with the spamming!
August 14, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: Mike on August 14, 2017, 06:56:04 AM
Mods,

This is getting ridiculous. Can Stephen and his proxies (symon_lucky, john_stemart and others) not be banned by i.p.? The guy is clearly deranged and desperate as can be seen from this pm which he sent me today.

By the way, I have no intention of buying his book, whether from Amazon at $349 or by paypal for $25, but if anyone who has it sends me a copy I will simulate the system and post the results on the forum. I will also give a FAIR review on amazon. It was actually my intention to buy a copy of the book but then all this nonsense started and frankly I have interest in doing so any longer.

To receive your copy Paypal me $25 stephentab@hotmail.co.uk and send me an email: stephentab@hotmail.co.uk with your Paypal transaction ID, stating: (Golden Secret 3.0) and I will email a copy to you.

Hi Mike,

IMPORTANT
========
Please note if you send him funds ($25) via PayPal as a gift upfront first (donation) you MAY NOT be able to claim a refund later!!! This is different than actually BUYING it via a PayPal merchant button and getting a digital download link from a dedicated sales page where you have the usual PayPal consumer protection and entitlement to refund for goods not fit for purpose etc. and of course he knows this... Just saying to take care, proceed carefully and watch out and know your rights, that's all.

Cheers,
A.
#12
Baccarat Forum / Re: Gambler's Dream
August 14, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
Thanks albalaha for sharing your experience with the various Izak systems.
I've only tried abt 3 or 4 of his - and it's what I thought.
I don't think I'll be purchasing any of them quite soon myself - he does have quite an awful lot of them, doesn't he? covering all forms of gambling - but he does have regular special offers and occasionally gives out free systems via his newsletter. His forum is also quite good (LTW)
Unlike Tabone he has his own site + systems + forum. People know where they stand. He doesn't seem to splash or mass bombard other forums with his announcements; but only to those who have signed up with him. Tabone could learn a thing or two from him.
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we have many members using his system who can write a true review. A long run simulation on a random sample would do justice with any test.
This more to the point and would be a far more interesting. Love to see that too. Let the truth come out for all to see - not just hang on what might be dodgy or suspect claims from the system originator. Thanks.
#13
General Discussion / Re: Enough with the spamming!
August 14, 2017, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: sean on August 14, 2017, 11:23:39 AM
You are not alone.

Thanks sean. Although it would have been better if you hadn't posted more of his links. That's what he wants. All part of his little game with ordinary and regular members such as ourselves. BTW, you can block PM's from him by setting your Ignore Buddies on your member profile if you get sick of it. That's what I did, mate.  :thumbsup:

Tabone - One minute he's praising me for helping to increase his sales - next minute he's complaining about me. I dunno.
Talk about a Jekyll and Hide persona!  ???

What a twisted and sad individual. Why are you spending all your time here and are not out fleecing the casinos with your Golden Wonder formula?  >:(

I think it more to do with link popularity and search engine positioning, The more the links and the more text with the associated full name of the system appears - so much for the better for his sales campaign to increase traffic to his EPOS - and believe me, that's just what this is a bombardment. A calculated, sustained, persistent drive to increase sales at any odds at any price, come what may... Even if he tramples all over the forum in totally unrelated topics.

Yes - we heard about your book alright - we got the message - now please let it lie.

If you think it's just me that feels this way about you then you are wrong. There are a lot of longstanding and reasonable members following this who actually agree with my main points about you but have kept silent or not bothered to engage or chastise you for your wrongdoings - AS OF YET. But they can see as clear as daylight when somebody is out of order and taking liberties. You do yourself a disservice if you think that by taking this high and mighty approach it will be a route to winning friends or helping to achieve sales.

Just look at where it's gotten you - Another day passes and now its come down to PANIC selling at bargain basement cut prices in order to eke out that extra needed buck or two. A sign of more desperation setting in.

And, while I'm here, you really need to work on your personality and communication skills, brother.

It's all too apparent that you have an overweening sensitiveness to any quite reasonable mild criticism or trivial comment made about you; to the extent that you take things completely the wrong way and imagine there is some kind of group engineered conspiracy "attack" on your personal character or integrity so much so that you must immediately retaliate obnoxiously using quite unwholesome, but let me say not unexpected but the familiar predictable tactics that are the hallmark signature of a "forum troll"!

Your overbearing sense of self-importance and egoism is also quite repugnant and unwelcome. That "holier than thou" attitude that you are always in the right and others must therefore manifestly wrong is symptomatic of a spoilt, unruly child who throws his rattle out of his pram and starts bawling and misbehaving if he is in any way reprimanded and cannot get his own way or what he feels he deserves in life.

I'll say no more on this - for now. People know where I stand on this issue by now and don't want to go over old ground again... I expect we'll be hearing from Admin quite soon and I have faith that a right decision will be reached. Meantime I hope and trust that ST will uphold his promise of leaving here which he has TWICE stated he would do.

Knowing his motives,  I wouldn't bet on him keeping or abiding by that promise. Let's see, shall we.

Laterz,
A.
#14
General Discussion / Re: Enough with the spamming!
August 14, 2017, 07:38:02 AM
Quote from: Mike on August 14, 2017, 06:56:04 AM
Mods,

This is getting ridiculous. Can Stephen and his proxies (symon_lucky, john_stemart and others) not be banned by i.p.? The guy is clearly deranged and desperate as can be seen from this pm which he sent me today.

By the way, I have no intention of buying his book, whether from Amazon at $349 or by paypal for $25, but if anyone who has it sends me a copy I will simulate the system and post the results on the forum. I will also give a FAIR review on amazon. It was actually my intention to buy a copy of the book but then all this nonsense started and frankly I have interest in doing so any longer.

Hi Mike,

It is beyond ridiculous, Mike. What type of person would shamelessly engage in such an illegal forum activity like over-spamming?
I warned them over at Gamblersforum.com that if he came back there what to expect from him...
https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/shift-5-system.6605/#post-38830
That's where he posted under an alias promoting his book - actually pretending he was someone else - not owning up to the fact he was really the book author. Trying to hoodwink and outsmart the members with Bogus shenanigans. How terrible and desperate is that, I ask you?

And it happened over a few days during the time when he said he was supposedly "away" and not posting. I genuinely pity the poor sods if he goes back to that forum... Mind you I do not think he would last long over there now I have exposed him and blown his cover and called him out for what he really is...  Forewarned is Forearmed :)

A.
#15
Baccarat Forum / Re: Gambler's Dream
August 14, 2017, 03:37:30 AM
Quote from: Stephen Tabone on August 14, 2017, 03:08:23 AM
If you keep hating me Atlantis you'll help my sales grow

"Hate" you? I don't hate you - whatever gave you that impression?? You misunderstand.

In the end if you carry on like this I guess your questionable behaviour and ultimate fate will be decided by the System Admins + Mods. This is a gambling forum for gambling. I am not the system seller. YOU ARE. You must be prepared to take some of the flak that can result from you being here and advertising your gambling products in the manner you have been doing.

Face up to the fact that you won't be allowed to continue like this forever, especially if you break the rules and don't conform to forum etiquette and so on... A friendly warning - it's for your own good, health and sanity, mate.

Seriously though. Take my advice. Why not start your own forum where YOU can be the BIG MAN in full editorial control with the power to keep or even sack members according to your own whims or desires if they don't agree with you or start mild criticism. You might like that and I think it will suit your domineering personality... Don't try and do it here though. Give us a bit more respect and intelligence than that. You're no better than we are and you know it sonny!

And less of the o.t.t. PM insults already. Grow up.
In business you sometimes live in a dog eat dog world -  and I just happen to be one of your "nastier" types of canines!

Take care,
A.