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Title: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 04, 2015, 10:03:17 pm
Yesterday, I had a mailshot from Streetwise Marketing selling the 'Infallible Roulette System' for 127.00.

The blurb recommends opening a casino account and getting a bonus.
I would never suggest taking a bonus. It also says this is brand new.

Now I don't know if its brand new or not but I cover The Infallible System in Chapter 5 of my book Online Roulette The Winning Rules and it's included in my program Roulette Key Gold.
My book is 6.00 on Amazon (16.00 paperback)

Admittedly I didn't invent it, I found it in the Winning Rules or Roulette Practically Considered by Sperienza dated 1905 !

Now I don't know if Streetwise are selling a 'new' system but it's certainly not a new name. If anyone has tried it can they let me know. I'm away for a week or so now but will answer all correspondence when I return.

I did a video of it 2 years ago on YouTube. Clip below

https://youtu.be/DX6FvdBd8s4
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Sputnik on October 05, 2015, 04:25:58 pm

 I go to amazon and it say 30 and could not find digital copy for 6 - can you give me a working link ...

 Cheers
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: NathanDetroit on October 05, 2015, 10:39:56 pm
Systems alone don`t win only the ingenuity of the player  does.




ND
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: LankyStreak on October 07, 2015, 06:06:25 am
I go to amazon and it say 30 and could not find digital copy for 6 - can you give me a working link ...

 Cheers
I also received the mailshot from Streetwise Marketing and came across this site when I Googled to try to learn more.  The 6 price is for an electronic copy not a physical book.  I bought a copy for my Kindle for 6 from here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Online-Roulette-Winning-Peter-Preston-ebook/dp/B00MG4C4UM/ (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Online-Roulette-Winning-Peter-Preston-ebook/dp/B00MG4C4UM/) and although it's very brief it is interesting reading and undoubtedly better value for money than 127 to Streetwise Marketing.
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 08, 2015, 05:37:26 pm
My book is online roulette the winning rules it is 6.00 on Amazon as an eBook and includes the is system in my video. Which is also in roulette key gold from roulettekeygold.com.
I'm away till Saturday  let me know if you can't find it

Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 09, 2015, 04:30:23 pm
The physical book is 16.00 but varies slightly  by  country.It's about A4 size and 52 pages.
In live casinos its best played with a partner

Whichever book you buy I refund the full purchase price should you go on to subscribe to Roulette Key Gold

There's also the Quasi Infallible system shown below:


https://youtu.be/i9AT-qPAN9k
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Sputnik on October 09, 2015, 04:35:47 pm

 I don't understand - you say i can buy digital copy of the book for 6 Euro - but there is no digital copy online at Amazon dot com ...
 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_4?rh=k%3Aroulette+key+gold%2Ci%3Astripbooks&keywords=roulette+key+gold&ie=UTF8&qid=1444408188

 (http://i62.tinypic.com/mh93d4.jpg)
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: LankyStreak on October 09, 2015, 05:54:18 pm
I don't understand - you say i can buy digital copy of the book for 6 Euro - but there is no digital copy online at Amazon dot com ...
 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_4?rh=k%3Aroulette+key+gold%2Ci%3Astripbooks&keywords=roulette+key+gold&ie=UTF8&qid=1444408188

 (http://i62.tinypic.com/mh93d4.jpg)

Sputnik the digital copy is listed as the $12.49 'Kindle Edition' in your screenshot, and as the 6 'Kindle Edition' in the .co.uk link I posted above.  Kindle is a portable device for reading digital books but you can also download a free Kindle Reader for your computer.

I'm not here to promote Peter Preston's book because I hadn't heard of him until a few days ago.  I've read his book but haven't tried his Quasi Infallible System yet (which I think this thread is all about).  However there's a simple Safe System for Beginners in the book and I've been playing this for a few hours yesterday and today over several short sessions and I've profited by many times the cost of the ebook.

My initial impression is that I wouldn't want to attempt the Infallible System without using Peter's software.  I've applied for a trial copy but he hasn't replied yet, presumably because he says above he's away.  I hope to trial it soon and will give my honest impressions here if I can (the moderators on this site took 48 hours to approve my first message, presumably because I'm a new member).
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 09, 2015, 10:02:01 pm
Just to clear up any confusion the original price for the ebook is 6.00 GBP
My own currency is GBP so I priced it in GBP (Pounds Sterling) I've never said it was 6 Euros.

The book includes The Infallible System and I don't know if its the same infallible system sold by Streetwise for 127.00 GBP
That's what I was trying to find out.
Although they have the same name, The Infallible System, I honestly don't know if we are both promoting the same system.
I found details of it in a book published in 1905 and used all the techniques from that book in my program Roulette Key Gold.
You don't have to use my program I just find it makes things easier and that's what I bought a computer for in the first place.

Image of Amazon uk page attached

Peter G Preston

Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: modulo on October 10, 2015, 05:11:37 am
pouvez-vous traduire votre e-bok en francais? merci de votre reponse
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 10, 2015, 09:36:01 am
I'm sorry I don't speak French.
However the original book
(The Winning Rules or Roulette Practically Considered by Sperienza
1905 Harrison & Sons, 45 Pall Mall, London)
does contain a lot of French terms 'Louis', 'Manque', 'Plein' etc

I sell a pdf copy of the original for 10.00 at http://www.winningrouletteplayer.com/systems.html where there is a sample of Chapter VIII (The Rational System) .

Details of other systems from the book and my program can be seen at http://www.winningrouletteplayer.com/systems.html.
also at http://roulettekeygold.com/systems.html

Features of the program can be seen at http://roulettekeygold.com/help3.html, if anyone has queries please quote the grid reference (A1-P18 etc)  from the diagram.
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 11, 2015, 10:26:13 pm
Just to make clear although it can and frequently does work I wasn't recommending The Infallible System, I was just intrigued to see possibly the same system being sold for 127.00 when it's possibly included free in my Roulette Key Gold program and is featured in my book priced at 6.00 GBP . I'd be interested to find out if it's the same system or not. If it is buyers can save 121.00 !!

If it is the same system then I can't agree with a lot of the wording in the advertising used by Streetwise and personally don't make any claims, but I do offer a 14 day trial (once only) on my program.
However, I do know that Streetwise usually honour their money back guarantees.

In the original Winning Rules book it states that two partners at the same table with a large capital and large initial stake could often break the bank in around 150 spins.
These days with internet casinos it doesn't need two partners. But it still needs capital and time.
Although RouletteKeyGold can calculate the bet sizes I don't play 'The Infallible' myself, for those of you who are interested I mainly tend to play a dozen neighbours , 3 finals and the hidden dozen.



Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Jack1985 on October 14, 2015, 02:50:57 pm
Hello

I have tried the infallible system from streetwise and it wasn't infallible for me so sent it back. Watched abit of your video and your infallible system is simular. John from streetwise explains that the system is not new, that all they have done is refined the system and used there own stake plan, hope this helps

Keep those systems coming
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Mathemagician on October 14, 2015, 10:23:10 pm
Thanks for letting me know.
Please send me your email and I'll send you a free copy of my book as a thank you.
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: soxfan on October 14, 2015, 10:37:14 pm
There was once a system called Very Near the Infallible Roulettes method that was very good. It involved anti-streak play using the multiple banks, hey hey.
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Rolex-Watch on October 14, 2015, 10:44:58 pm
There was once a system called Very Near the Infallible Roulettes method that was very good. It involved anti-streak play using the multiple banks, hey hey.
Was going to mention that, worth reading for the principals of the MM alone, the roots of my own "string MM" method.   
Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing
Post by: Sputnik on October 16, 2015, 07:57:58 am

 Is this the method you two are talking about ?

This is a system that developed while I was tweaking the "Very near infallible Roulette system".  That system is way too complicated and almost impossible to play except at home with pen and paper and time.


This is an Even Chance system.


We will use the R/B even chance.


Wait until you have 2 colors in a row.  Either RR or BB.


We then bet for a change of color.  We will bet at most 6 times for the change.  If it doesn't change in 6 bets, wait until it does change to resume betting.


We are going to use a progression that is based on the "Philiberte" system found in the Monte Carlo Anecdotes.  Atlanta's progression in his latest excellent system "Matrix Trendgrabber" was also used.  It's not exact but close.


1-2-4


1-3-6


2-4-8


2-6-12


3-6-12


3-9-18


4-8-16


4-12-24


5-10-20


5-15-30


7-14-28


7-21-42


9-18-36


9-27-54


12-24-48


12-36-72


15-30-60


15-45-90


We will follow A's rules in that we stay at the same level as long as we don't lose 3 times in a row.  After each win, we return to the lowest number in the level and start again.  If we lose 3 times in a row, we move to the next level and play the same way.  Even though these numbers if added together equal a large number of units, not to worry because we will be winning as we move up the progression thus keeping our drawdowns under control.


Getting back to playing rules, as long as we are winning 1 time out of 3 betting for 2 colors in a row to change, we will stay at the 1st level.  After each win, we will wait until we have another 2 of the same color to resume betting for a chop.  If we get 6 losses in a row it will mean that the same color has hit 8 times in a row.  This will happen from time to time.


As long as we are in the 1st level, we will be in the profit accumulation mode.  In profit accumulation mode, we only bet for 2 in a row to change.  Once it changes, we wait again for 2 in a row before resuming betting for the chop.


If we lose 3 in a row at the 1st level, we will be down 7 units and will immediately move to the 2nd level of 1-3-6 and we are now in the recovery mode.  We will continue betting for a change.  When we get a change we will start betting for the chops to continue.  This is the difference between profit accumulation mode and recovery mode.


If we are in profit accumulation mode, we only bet for a streak to chop.


If we are in recovery mode, we bet for streaks to end and for chops to continue.  Our progression continues according to the betting rules no matter what mode we are in and even as we move from 1 mode to the next.


Once we are at a new level, we stay at that level until we fully recover our losses and then we drop back to level 1 and wait until we have 2 in a row to begin betting for a chop.


Here's a short example:


R   No bet
B   No bet
B   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1 in profits  Now wait for 2 in a row
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   No bet but 2 in a row so bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win +1 so (+1+1=+2) wait for 2 in a row
B   Bet 1 for chop
B   Bet 2 for chop
B   Bet 4 for chop
B   Lost 3 in a row so we are -7 and enter recovery mode and also move to the 1-3-6 level.
B   Lost 1 bet 3 for chop
R   Win +2 -7 = -5 since we are in recovery mode we start betting on chops to continue so we now bet 1 in the 2nd level of 1-3-6
B   Win +1-5 = -4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lost -1-4=-5  Bet 3 for streak to chop
R   Win +3-5=-2  Bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-2=-1  Bet 1 for chops to continue
R   Win +1-1=0  We have recovered all losses, not we are back to profit accumulation mode waiting for 2 in a row to form so we can bet for it to chop and we are also back to 1st level of 1-2-4.  We are still +2 overall.  No bet yet.
B   No bet
R   No bet
R   Bet 1 for chop
B   Win +1+2=+3  No bet.  Wait for streak to form
B   Bet 1 for chop
R   Win +1+3=+4  No bet.  Still in profit accumulation mode.  Wait for streak of 2
R   Bet 1 for chop
R   Lose, bet 2 for chop
R   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Win  +1+4=+5 No bet.  Still in profit mode.  wait for streak
B   Streak has formed bet 1 for chop
B   lose, bet 2 for chop
B   Lose, bet 4 for chop
B   Lose, -7 go to recovery mode and level 2.  continue betting for streak to end.  Bet 1 unit, the 1st bet of level 1
B   Lose, -8 Bet bet 3 for streak to end
R   Win  +3-8=-5  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win  +1-5=-4  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Lose   bet 3 for streak to end
B   Lose   bet 6 for streak to end
R   Win +3-4=-1  bet 1 for chops to continue
B   Win +1-1=0  Reset to profit accumulation mode and drop to 1st bet level.

Title: Re: Infallible Roulette System by Streetwise Marketing?
Post by: Mathemagician on October 16, 2015, 10:17:42 pm
As I understand the Infallible System it consists of following and opposing the bank on each even chance bet.
It does take time and capital, a program such as Roulette Key Gold or a spreadsheet would help.

Basically if your bet wins you double the stake if it loses you revert to the original. If you are following the bank and red comes up you bet on red if you are opposing the bank bet on black. If two people are playing as partners one following and one opposing the bank and there is a run of 10 one player may gladly lose 10 units while his partner would win 1024. The two players would then share the proceeds.

The images attached are from calculations in an Excel spreadsheet using an example from the last post.

It was originally intended for an even number of players (max 6) but nowadays with online casinos  it's often  possible for one player to place all the bets. Especially with the help of RKG to keep track of the calculations.

Using your example and only following the bank on colours you would reach a balance of 26 units after 15 spins.
see fig 1

However, if spins 16 & 19 had been B and not R (a 50/50 chance each time) there would be a balance
 of 1018 units after 20 spins (fig 2) .  This would take a run of 11 on B.

The trick is knowing when to stop a run of 11 gives a balance of 1018, A run of 8 gives a balance of 122

A run of 8 or more on any even chance is fairly common, as we all know.
So if you follow and oppose the bank on Red/Black, High/Low, Odd/Even

Using RouleteKeyGold you can follow or oppose any normal even chance or even all 6,

There you go, if the Infallible System I sell is the same as that sold by Streetwise I've possibly saved you 127.00!
I suspect Streetwise will suggest some staking plan and suggest you accept bonuses (don't).

Images should be attached if I've got this right!