Anybody think such bad streak can be won?

BEAT-THE-WHEEL · March 03, 2016, 05:59:06 AM

BA,
and others,
see if you could win this,
[may upload into the tracker]

TheLaw · March 03, 2016, 02:04:59 PM

Original Post :

http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=669.0

Nickmsi · March 03, 2016, 03:53:48 PM

Hello. . . .

I ran your Super Horror Session and have attached the graph results

My bet selection was Black or Red, whichever had the least hits.

Largest bet = 64 units

Max Drawdown = 437 units

Cheers

Nick

Big EZ · March 03, 2016, 04:51:54 PM

I have a question about this progression before I start to test it against my W/L records.

Is it always in cycles of 37? What happens if you sit down and start off with a win, do you lock up the
1 unit of profit and start a fresh cycle of 37? What if you are 15 bets in and gain 1 unit, do you lock that up and start a new cycle of 37 or is all 1 unit betting played out until the end of a 37 cycle?

Nickmsi · March 03, 2016, 04:58:36 PM

Hi Big EZ . .

I tested this just like you said.

On a new high (peak) I reset the progression to 1.

The Bet Selection remains the same, only the progression changes.

Cheers

Nick

ozon · March 03, 2016, 05:24:11 PM

Hello Nick
I have a question about the simulation 1000000 spins at the second forum, is there, the maximum drawdown is more than 5k, with max stake 128 unit.
Did you tried to play it with stoplose let say 1000 or 600 units, then the graph looks like a positively or negatively?
Thanks for any reply

Nickmsi · March 03, 2016, 06:40:46 PM

Hi Ozon . . .

When we test a system we first test it "wide open", meaning no limits on the Profits or Losses.

Then we can gauge how bad or good it will get.

With this knowledge we can then determine the best size bankroll, the best Stop Losses and Profit Targets to test further.

We have not yet determined what is the best Stop Loss yet.
Cheers

Nick

Blue_Angel · March 03, 2016, 06:46:43 PM

I believe it has to be between minimum 64 bet / 600 bankroll or maximum 128 bet / 1000 bankroll.

TheLaw · March 03, 2016, 06:51:06 PM

Does Albalaha have something against Blue Angel?

All I see are tests that succeed, while he claims they fail............what am I missing?

Denzie · March 03, 2016, 06:55:10 PM

You can make +100 unit profit sessions. Each with 1000u br.
Then see how many successful and how many busts.
Just an idea. Cuz on fast RNG spins it doesn't take to long to get it.
Real live wheel it would probably be to long. So there for 30 units would be enough for live play with 600 br.

Denzie · March 03, 2016, 07:10:09 PM

Quote from: TheLaw on March 03, 2016, 06:51:06 PM
Does Albalaha have something against Blue Angel?

All I see are tests that succeed, while he claims they fail............what am I missing?

Haters will always hate. Best thing you can do is lift up your shoulder for a second and ignore.

Blue_Angel · March 03, 2016, 07:22:11 PM

Don't forget also the air ball roulettes which producing results every 50 to 60 seconds.

Big EZ · March 03, 2016, 07:57:07 PM

Quote from: Nickmsi on March 03, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
Hi Big EZ . .

I tested this just like you said.

On a new high (peak) I reset the progression to 1.

The Bet Selection remains the same, only the progression changes.

Cheers

Nick

Just to be clear, you start a new cycle of 37 bets?

Because in the examples that Blue posted when he resets anywhere in the 37 bet cycle he plays out the remaining cycle for 1 unit .

Can you clear this up for me/us Blue, just to make sure the testing is being done the right way

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 23, 2016, 01:06:50 AM
BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / FRENCH ROULETTE WITH "LE PARTAGE" RULE

S=Spin R=Result T=Total
S R T

1 -1 -1
2 -1 -2
3x +1 -1
4 -1 -2
5x +1 -1
6 -1 -2
7x +1 -1
8 -1 -2
9 -1 -3
10x +1 -2
11 -1 -3
12x +1 -2
13 -1 -3
14/ZERO -0.5 -3.5
15 -1 -4.5
16x +1 -3.5
17 -1 -4.5
18 -1 -5.5
19 -1 -6.5
20 -1 -7.5
21x +1 -6.5
22 -1 -7.5
23x +1 -6.5
24 -1 -7.5
25 -1 -8.5
26 -1 -9.5
27 -1 -10.5
28 -1 -11.5
29x +1 -10.5
30 -1 -11.5
31x +1 -10.5
32x +1 -9.5
33 -1 -10.5
34 -1 -11.5
35x +1 -10.5
36x +1 -9.5
37x +1 -8.5
38x +2 -6.5 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
39 -2 -8.5
40 -2 -10.5
41 -2 -12.5
42x +2 -10.5
43 -2 -12.5
44 -2 -14.5
45x +2 -12.5
46x +2 -10.5
47 -2 -12.5
48 -2 -14.5
49 -2 -16.5
50 -2 -18.5
51 -2 -20.5
52x +2 -18.5
53 -2 -20.5
54 -2 -22.5
55x +2 -20.5
56 -2 -22.5
57 -2 -24.5
58x +2 -22.5
59 -2 -24.5
60 -2 -26.5
61 -2 -28.5
62x +2 -26.5
63 -2 -28.5
64 -2 -30.5
65x +2 -28.5
66 -2 -30.5
67 -2 -32.5
68x +2 -30.5
69x +2 -28.5
70 -2 -30.5
71x +2 -28.5
72 -2 -30.5
73 -2 -32.5
74 -2 -34.5
75x +4 -30.5 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
76 -4 -34.5
77x +4 -30.5
78 -4 -34.5
79 -4 -38.5
80x +4 -34.5
81 -4 -38.5
82 -4 -42.5
83 -4 -46.5
84 -4 -50.5
85 -4 -52.5
86 -4 -56.5
87 -4 -60.5
88 -4 -64.5
89 -4 -68.5
90x +4 -64.5
91 -4 -68.5
92x +4 -64.5
93 -4 -68.5
94 -4 -72.5
95x +4 -68.5
96 -4 -72.5
97x +4 -68.5
98 -4 -72.5
99 -4 -76.5
100 -4 -80.5
101x +4 -76.5
102x +4 -72.5
103 -4 -76.5
104x +4 -72.5
105/ZERO -2 -74.5
106 -4 -78.5
107 -4 -82.5
108 -4 -86.5
109 -4 -90.5
110 -4 -94.5
111 -4 -98.5
112 -8 -106.5 BET RAISES TO 8 UNITS
113 -8 -114.5
114x +8 -106.5
115 -8 -114.5
116 -8 -122.5
117x +8 -114.5
118 -8 -122.5
119x +8 -114.5
120 -8 -122.5
121 -8 -130.5
122x +8 -122.5
123 -8 -130.5
124 -8 -138.5
125 -8 -146.5
126 -8 -154.5
127 -8 -162.5
128x +8 -154.5
129x +8 -146.5
130x +8 -138.5
131x +8 -130.5
132 -8 -138.5
133 -8 -146.5
134x +8 -138.5
135 -8 -146.5
136 -8 -154.5
137 -8 -162.5
138x +8 -154.5
139 -8 -162.5
140x +8 -154.5
141 -8 -162.5
142 -8 -170.5
143x +8 -162.5
144 -8 -170.5
145x +8 -162.5
146x +8 -154.5
147x +8 -146.5
148 -8 -154.5
149x +16 -138.5 BET RAISES TO 16 UNITS
150x +16 -122.5
151 -16 -138.5
152 -16 -154.5
153/ZERO -8 -162.5
154x +16 -146.5
155x +16 -130.5
156 -16 -146.5
157 -16 -162.5
158x +16 -146.5
159 -16 -162.5
160 -16 -178.5
161 -16 -194.5
162 -16 -210.5
163x +16 -194.5
164x +16 -178.5
165 -16 -194.5
166 -16 -210.5
167 -16 -226.5
168x +16 -210.5
169 -16 -226.5
170 -16 -242.5
171x +16 -226.5
172x +16 -210.5
173 -16 -226.5
174x +16 -210.5
175x +16 -194.5
176 -16 -210.5
177 -16 -226.5
178 -16 -242.5
179 -16 -258.5
180x +16 -242.5
181 -16 -258.5
182 -16 -274.5
183 -16 -290.5
184x +16 -274.5
185 -16 -290.5
186/ZERO -16 -306.5 BET RAISES TO 32 UNITS
187x +32 -274.5
188 -32 -306.5
189 -32 -338.5
190/ZERO -16 -354.5
191 -32 -386.5
192x +32 -354.5
193x +32 -322.5
194 -32 -354.5
195 -32 -386.5
196x +32 -354.5
197 -32 -386.5
198 -32 -418.5
199/ZERO -16 -434.5
200 -32 -466.5
201 10 -32 -498.5
202 6 -32 -530.5
203 14 +32 -498.5
204 21 +32 -466.5
205 30 +32 -434.5
206 11 -32 -466.5
207 12 +32 -434.5
208 10 -32 -466.5
209 22 -32 -498.5
210 34 +32 -466.5
211 10 -32 -498.5
212 16 +32 -466.5
213 0 -16 -482.5
214 14 +32 -450.5
215 8 -32 -482.5
216 34 +32 -450.5
217 18 +32 -418.5
218 19 +32 -386.5
219 25 +32 -354.5
220 35 -32 -386.5
221 34 +32 -354.5
222 29 -32 -386.5
223 16 +64 -322.5 BET RAISES TO 64 UNITS
224 21 +64 -258.5
225 12 +64 -194.5
226 30 +64 -130.5
227 9 +64 -66.5
228 34 +64 -2.5
229 32 +64 +61.5 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
230 15 -1 +60.5
231 0 -0.5 +60
232 17 -1 +59
233 2 -1 +58
234 3 +1 +59
235 0 -0.5 +58.5
236 1 +1 +59.5
237 36 +1 +60.5
238 22 -1 +59.5
239 34 +1 +60.5
240 11 -1 +59.5
241 20 -1 +58.5
242 1 +1 +59.5
243 28 -1 +58.5
244 11 -1 +57.5
245 21 +1 +58.5
246 29 -1 +57.5
247 15 -1 +56.5
248 15 -1 +55.5
249 34 +1 +56.5
250 10 -1 +55.5
251 16 +1 +56.5
252 4 -1 +55.5
253 35 -1 +54.5
254 17 -1 +53.5
255 4 -1 +52.5
256 19 +1 +53.5
257 25 +1 +54.5
258 11 -1 +53.5
259 0 -0.5 +53
260 5 +2 +55 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
261 22 -2 +53
262 31 -2 +51
263 0 -1 +50
264 2 -2 +48
265 10 -2 +46
266 6 -2 +44
267 28 -2 +42
268 27 +2 +44
269 4 -2 +42
270 1 +2 +44
271 3 +2 +46
272 11 -2 +44
273 11 -2 +42
274 9 +2 +44
275 5 +2 +46
276 1 +2 +48
277 19 +2 +50
278 11 -2 +48
279 28 -2 +46
280 10 -2 +44
281 15 -2 +42
282 27 +2 +44
283 23 +2 +46
284 13 -2 +44
285 7 +2 +46
286 17 -2 +44
287 35 -2 +42
288 27 +2 +44
289 14 +2 +46
290 21 +2 +48
291 14 +2 +50
292 34 +2 +52
293 11 -2 +50
294 10 -2 +48
295 36 +2 +50
296 24 -2 +48
297 36 +4 +52 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
298 34 +4 +56
299 7 +4 +60
300 5 +4 +64
301 6 -1 +63 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
302 16 +1 +64
303 34 +1 +65
304 34 +1 +66
305 33 -1 +65
306 26 -1 +64
307 1 +1 +65
308 5 +1 +66
309 0 -0.5 +65.5
310 33 -1 +64.5
311 0 -0.5 +64
312 9 +1 +65
313 0 -0.5 +64.5
314 21 +1 +65.5
315 23 +1 +66.5
316 13 -1 +65.5
317 3 +1 +66.5
318 20 -1 +65.5
319 34 +1 +66.5
320 28 -1 +65.5
321 28 -1 +64.5
322 14 +1 +65.5
323 20 -1 +64.5
324 30 +1 +65.5
325 25 +1 +66.5
326 36 +1 +67.5
327 1 +1 +68.5
328 31 -1 +67.5
329 35 -1 +66.5
330 36 +1 +67.5
331 5 +1 +68.5
332 29 -1 +67.5
333 28 -1 +66.5

Summary}
6 cycles of 37 spins / 333 outcomes / +66.5 units total / highest balance +68.5 units/
lowest balance -530.5 units / highest bet 64 units

Blue_Angel · March 03, 2016, 08:13:47 PM

The way I play it is after resetting bet amount, the 37 spins cycle is continuing where it was.
The cycle isn't being reseted, only the bet amount.
Also there are other parameters which I've intentionally avoided to discuss.

AMK · March 03, 2016, 08:46:45 PM

Hello BA,

You mention that there are parameters which you have not discussed. These parameters have no impact on the method you have described (FHG) or do they? With this I mean, you have shared with us your winning method, we have all the information for this in your method description however, there are some "parameters" which can make playing less time consuming etc. For example what you just mentioned that after a session win we do not have to start all over with tracking but can begin again with the least hit EC.

I hope you have not left out an important aspect of your winning method, without which we can not win longterm.