Anybody think such bad streak can be won?

Atlantis · February 23, 2016, 06:29:25 PM

Hi Blue_Angel,

Quite interesting and thanks for sharing this.
Any good selection criteria - and including your own - then this could be an answer.

A.

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 06:47:28 PM

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 23, 2016, 01:54:19 AM
BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / AMERICAN 00 WHEEL

1. 26 -1 -1
2. 17 -1 -2
3. 27 +1 -1
4. 9 +1 0
5. 33 -1 -1
6. 35 -1 -2
7. 19 +1 -1
8. 5 -1 -2
9. 4 -1 -3
10. 8 -1 -4
11. 8 -1 -5
12. 24 -1 -6
13. 22 -1 -7
14. 11 -1 -8
15. 2 -1 -9
16. 17 -1 -10
17. 26 -1 -11
18. 1 +1 -10
19. 22 -1 -11
20. 7 +1 -10
21. 28 -1 -11
22. 24 -1 -12
23. 13 -1 -13
24. 18 +1 -12
25. 36 +1 -11
26. 20 -1 -12
27. 15 -1 -13
28. 13 -1 -14
29. 13 -1 -15
30. 15 -1 -16
31. 15 -1 -17
32. 12 +1 -16
33. 13 -1 -17
34. 11 -1 -18
35. 24 -1 -19
36. 00 -1 -20
37. 00 -1 -21 GO UP TO 2 UNITS
38. 28 -2 -23
39. 4 -2 -25
40. 19 +2 -23
41. 26 -2 -25
42. 9 +2 -23
43. 24 -2 -25
44. 34 +2 -23
45. 14 +2 -21
46. 9 +2 -19
47. 8 -2 -21
48. 24 -2 -23
49. 23 +2 -21
50. 27 +2 -19
51. 25 +2 -17
52. 24 -2 -19
53. 13 -2 -21
54. 29 -2 -23
55. 18 +2 -21
56. 4 -2 -23
57. 1 +2 -21
58. 12 +2 -19
59. 00 -2 -21
60. 10 -2 -23
61. 8 -2 -25
62. 20 -2 -27
63. 18 +2 -25
64. 18 +2 -23
65. 18 +2 -21
66. 7 +2 -19
67. 33 -2 -21
68. 31 -2 -23
69. 21 +2 -21
70. 28 -2 -23
71. 23 +2 -21
72. 22 -2 -23
73. 21 +2 -21
74. 31 -2 -23 GO UP TO 4
75. 35 -4 -27
76. 9 +4 -23
77. 31 -4 -27
78. 25 +4 -23
79. 32 +4 -19
80. 35 -4 -23
81. 27 +4 -19
82. 29 -4 -23
83. 31 -4 -27
84. 23 +4 -23
85. 6 -4 -27
86. 20 -4 -31
87. 1 +4 -27
88. 13 -4 -31
89. 7 +4 -27
90. 27 +4 -23
91. 26 -4 -27
92. 34 +4 -23
93. 29 -4 -27
94. 33 -4 -31
95. 00 -4 -35
96. 17 -4 -39
97. 34 +4 -35
98. 28 -4 -39
99. 1 +4 -35
100. 6 -4 -39
101. 22 -4 -43
102. 3 +4 -39
103. 35 -4 -43
104. 4 -4 -47
105. 2 -4 -51
106. 34 +4 -47
107. 5 +4 -43
108. 36 +4 -39
109. 33 -4 -43
110. 10 -4 -47
111. 3 +4 -43 GO UP TO 8
112. 15 -8 -51
113. 24 -8 -59
114. 27 +8 -51
115. 36 +8 -43
116. 16 +8 -35
117. 23 +8 -27
118. 9 +8 -19
119. 2 -8 -27
120. 22 -8 -35
121. 21 +8 -27
122. 11 -8 -35
123. 33 -8 -43
124. 00 -8 -51
125. 19 +8 -43
126. 12 +8 -35
127. 16 +8 -27
128. 14 +8 -19
129. 31 -8 -27
130. 8 -8 -35
131. 1 +8 -27
132. 19 +8 -19
133. 11 -8 -27
134. 8 -8 -35
135. 20 -8 -43
136. 15 -8 -51
137. 19 +8 -43
138. 25 +8 -35
139. 28 -8 -43
140. 31 -8 -51
141. 32 +8 -43
142. 11 -8 -51
143. 4 -8 -59
144. 21 +8 -51
145. 6 -8 -59
146. 28 -8 -67
147. 8 -8 -75
148. 00 -8 -83 GO UP TO 16 UNITS
149. 33 -16 -99
150. 35 -16 -115
151. 20 -16 -131
152. 5 +16 -115
153. 34 +16 -99
154. 4 -16 -115
155. 21 +16 -99
156. 8 -16 -115
157. 3 +16 -99
158. 20 -16 -115
159. 0 -16 -131
160. 00 -16 -147
161. 10 -16 -163
162. 10 -16 -179
163. 22 -16 -195
164. 0 -16 -211
165. 16 +16 -195
166. 9 +16 -179
167. 0 -16 -195
168. 11 -16 -211
169. 35 -16 -227
170. 9 +16 -211
171. 00 -16 -227
172. 26 -16 -243
173. 29 -16 -259
174. 33 -16 -275
175. 0 -16 -291
176. 11 -16 -307
177. 29 -16 -323
178. 32 +16 -307
179. 24 -16 -323
180. 16 +16 -307
181. 30 +16 -291
182. 24 -16 -307
183. 20 -16 -323
184. 20 -16 -339
185. 30 +16 -323 GO UP TO 32
186. 14 +32 -291
187. 33 -32 -323
188. 30 +32 -291
189. 19 +32 -259
190. 9 +32 -227
191. 15 -32 -259
192. 4 -32 -291
193. 1 +32 -259
194. 10 -32 -291
195. 33 -32 -323
196. 14 +32 -291
197. 26 -32 -323
198. 20 -32 -355
199. 31 -32 -387
200. 7 +32 -355
201. 23 +32 -323
202. 22 -32 -355
203. 7 +32 -323
204. 28 -32 -355
205. 9 +32 -323
206. 00 -32 -355
207. 14 +32 -323
208. 22 -32 -355
209. 24 -32 -387
210. 3 +32 -355
211. 26 -32 -387
212. 31 -32 -419
213. 14 +32 -387
214. 22 -32 -419
215. 29 -32 -451
216. 25 +32 -419
217. 9 +32 -387
218. 12 +32 -355
219. 35 -32 -387
220. 31 -32 -419
221. 18 +32 -387
222. 30 +32 -355 GO UP TO 64
223. 7 +64 -291
224. 16 +64 -227
225. 9 +64 -163
226. 7 +64 -99
227. 4 -64 -163
228. 1 +64 -99
229. 26 -64 -163
230. 24 -64 -227
231. 32 +64 -163
232. 1 +64 -99
233. 18 +64 -35
234. 9 +64 +29 RESTART AT 1 UNIT

Summary}

234 outcomes / +29 units total / highest balance +29 units/
lowest balance -451 units / highest bet 64 units

For the first cycle of 38 spins the SD is 3.16

For the first 2 cycles (76 spins) the SD is 3

For the first 3 cycles (114 spins) the SD is 3.32

For the first 4 cycles (152 spins) the SD is 3.60

For the first 5 cycles (190 spins) the SD is 4.12

For the first 6 cycles (228 spins) the SD is 4

The net profit of 29 units is being achieved on the 234th spin and at that time the SD was 3.74

The maximum drawdown was on 215th spin with -451 units and 4.56 SD

The darkest hour is just before the dawn...

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 06:56:45 PM

Quote from: Atlantis on February 23, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
Hi Blue_Angel,

Quite interesting and thanks for sharing this.
Any good selection criteria - and including your own - then this could be an answer.

A.

As I've described before, you always keep on betting on the least appeared EC.

You should consider it as buying a stock as cheap as possible and selling it in the first opportunity for profit, the entry and exit points in such neverending cycle are crucial.

It's a constant work in progress, you keep your record up to date, thus you adjust to the ever changing fluctuations/deviations.

TheLaw · February 23, 2016, 07:59:07 PM

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 23, 2016, 06:56:45 PM
As I've described before, you always keep on betting on the least appeared EC.

You should consider it as buying a stock as cheap as possible and selling it in the first opportunity for profit, the entry and exit points in such neverending cycle are crucial.

It's a constant work in progress, you keep your record up to date, thus you adjust to the ever changing fluctuations/deviations.

Hey Blue,

How many spins have you tested this method with?

Thanks!

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 08:16:42 PM

QuoteBTW thanks for catching the fishes with Sputnik march.

To whom are you talking to?

What sputnik march has to do with my method?

The penultimate or avant dernier or same as before last selection aims for streaks of series and changes but it wins from the second in a row, the firsts from both sides are the half of everything therefore misses half of the total streaks.

The same as last wins all streaks of series (including first), but misses the streaks of intermittences (changes), thus it misses half of the total streaks because series and intermittences are equally possible.

These two options differ only in the distribution of wins to losses ratio but not in their totals, theoretically you should expect same level of success after 6 to 9 cycles when events start to average out even in extreme situations.

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 08:23:29 PM

Quote from: TheLaw on February 23, 2016, 07:59:07 PM
Hey Blue,

How many spins have you tested this method with?

Thanks!

It has been tested not only by me but from several users as far as I know, out of multi-million of outcomes, we've never encounter worse sessions than the examples posted in this topic.

If you or anyone else has found worse, post it here in order to analyze it.

TheLaw · February 23, 2016, 09:47:07 PM

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 23, 2016, 08:23:29 PM
It has been tested not only by me but from several users as far as I know, out of multi-million of outcomes, we've never encounter worse sessions than the examples posted in this topic.

If you or anyone else has found worse, post it here in order to analyze it.

Thanks!

Big EZ · February 23, 2016, 10:57:09 PM

Blue Angel....

Would the cycle of bets that you are using here for roulette (37) be different if this was american wheel, would it then be cycle of 38? And what if this is applied to baccarat, what's the cycle number then?

Blue_Angel · February 24, 2016, 02:05:36 AM

Quote from: Big EZ on February 23, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
Blue Angel....

Would the cycle of bets that you are using here for roulette (37) be different if this was american wheel, would it then be cycle of 38? And what if this is applied to baccarat, what's the cycle number then?

Yes.

About card games such as Baccarat, multiply 6 decks by 52 cards and deduct from the total 25% OR multiply 8 decks by 52 cards and deduct from the total 33%
234 to 278 are the playable cards for each shoe, if we consider 5 cards as the average for each result we arrive to:
234 + 278 = 512 / 2 = 256 / 5 = 51 hands per shoe approximately.

We could round it up to 50 hands/results as 1 cycle.

BEAT-THE-WHEEL · February 24, 2016, 07:34:51 AM

Dear BA,
May you please show us how to win the horror #3.?

Thanks in advance.

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ADulay · February 24, 2016, 06:05:31 PM

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on February 24, 2016, 07:34:51 AM
Dear BA,
May you please show us how to win the horror #3.?

Thanks in advance.

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Horror session #3:
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BTW,

Are these actual shoes/spin results or are you just generating sessions for testing money management?

If they are actual results from a game, can you provide the results instead of the W/L registry?

I'd love to see just what method lost 23 wagers in a row.

Thanks.

AD

Tomla · February 24, 2016, 07:23:30 PM

Well done Blue angel, big sets like project 201.......
this test reminds me of our lost gambling guru albahala

Blue_Angel · February 24, 2016, 08:23:00 PM

Quote from: Tomla on February 24, 2016, 07:23:30 PM
Well done Blue angel, big sets like project 201.......
this test reminds me of our lost gambling guru albahala

Indeed, Albahala uses the same philosophy on his betting and is one of the very few pro gamblers in this forum.

Big EZ · February 24, 2016, 08:50:37 PM

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 24, 2016, 02:05:36 AM
Yes.

About card games such as Baccarat, multiply 6 decks by 52 cards and deduct from the total 25% OR multiply 8 decks by 52 cards and deduct from the total 33%
234 to 278 are the playable cards for each shoe, if we consider 5 cards as the average for each result we arrive to:
234 + 278 = 512 / 2 = 256 / 5 = 51 hands per shoe approximately.

We could round it up to 50 hands/results as 1 cycle.

Thanks for that info.....

This may sound like a silly question, but is a cycle only considered a cycle on placed bets?

Tomla · February 24, 2016, 09:25:22 PM

! have played bacc shoe by shoe and never lost, increasing 1 unit a shoe until ahead----bet selection hardly mattered and i haven't done it for awhile