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Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2016, 02:35:37 pm »
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  • ''beat-the-wheel'',

    By now you must have understood how my method works, so do it yourself, I'm not your secretary.

    Besides I find silly these challenges, do I've to prove you something?
    I think I don't.

    By the way, like ''the law'' said, if the source of the results cannot be verified, like Wiesbaden casino for example, anyone could put up anything without being real.

    And one last thing, I said that I could provide examples of sequences which have NUMBERS, not just W/L registry.
    I didn't select any sequence because you could say I picked an easy one, the first 2 which I have posted are not mine, I've just played them.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal


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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #46 on: February 26, 2016, 07:05:30 pm »
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  • B-T-W, I will make an educated guess and say the Horror no. 4 session was on a 00 wheel even though I have not seen the numbers.

    True or False?

    cheers
    Gambling is not an exact science. It's not for people who like clear black and white figures. It is for the artist who has a sense of stats and who can deal with fuzzy things.

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #47 on: February 26, 2016, 07:22:16 pm »
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  • Hello
    I 've done the test with this method of betting cyclical martingales
     ... win win ... and then lose a lot
     ... could be wrong
    .... formula can be mistaken
     I'm not very good with excel

    my STOP LOSS was 600u

    numbers are from file
    10K RNG spins, single zero, generated by Random.org
    www.roulette30.com

    p.s. I had such high hopes that this will be a profitable method

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #48 on: February 26, 2016, 08:35:55 pm »
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  • Seeing a streak of either Black or Red there are 3 options :

    Bet with the streak

    Bet against it

    Ignore it.



    My decision  would be  to ignore it.

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #49 on: February 27, 2016, 08:08:34 am »
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  • Hello
    I 've done the test with this method of betting cyclical martingales
     ... win win ... and then lose a lot
     ... could be wrong
    .... formula can be mistaken
     I'm not very good with excel

    my STOP LOSS was 600u

    numbers are from file
    10K RNG spins, single zero, generated by Random.org
    www.roulette30.com

    p.s. I had such high hopes that this will be a profitable method


    From the first sight I recognize  a fundamental mistake, you are betting always the same side.
    My method is not just a progression, but selection by charting ALL EC's as well.
    As you might understand this is very important difference.
    However, now I've already begun calculating all the results, since there are 10k and I'm doing it manually I'll need time to finish.

    Betjack,have you done this manually?
    I've requested Les Howell to RX code my method but didn't get any reply, by the way does anyone knows how to RX code my method?
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #50 on: February 27, 2016, 12:45:04 pm »
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  • Seeing this same issue on other forums about this method.

    Everyone wants to take the easy way out, and just test a color.

    Adjusting bet selection takes much more time to test, but gives you precise results!!! :thumbsup:

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #51 on: February 27, 2016, 01:10:08 pm »
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  • When I'll finish the 10k results we will have a proof of why a progression is insufficient without the proper bet selection.

    So far I'm approximately on 500th spin and never bet more than 2 units with worst balance -12 and current balance +41 (higher too).

    User "betjack" had reached 16 units bet and -67 units worst balance, his current balance is -5 while his higher balance was +36.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #52 on: February 27, 2016, 01:22:14 pm »
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  • The law, thanks for supporting me without even requesting it from you, I really appreciate it!
    I'm talking about the forum roulette30 and my topic "Fallacious Holy Grail", I've read your comments...
    Indeed Kavouras was trying to cover Reyth but he shouldn't because Reyth provided false information, however, I think Kavouras is good person, not like Reyth.

    At least if Reyth was saying that he reached 128 units instead of 512 it would be more believable!
    He never post that session, not even said the name of the online casino!

    In the end tried to flatter you by saying "I still remember what you've learned me that if a system is going to lose it will be within the first 10,000 spins".
    But by saying this is contradicting himself because the example of the worst sequence ever, which FHG wins, was 1 out of literally millions of results!
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #53 on: February 27, 2016, 01:48:54 pm »
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  • The law, thanks for supporting me without even requesting it from you, I really appreciate it!
    I'm talking about the forum roulette30 and my topic "Fallacious Holy Grail", I've read your comments...
    Indeed Kavouras was trying to cover Reyth but he shouldn't because Reyth provided false information, however, I think Kavouras is good person, not like Reyth.

    At least if Reyth was saying that he reached 128 units instead of 512 it would be more believable!
    He never post that session, not even said the name of the online casino!

    In the end tried to flatter you by saying "I still remember what you've learned me that if a system is going to lose it will be within the first 10,000 spins".
    But by saying this is contradicting himself because the example of the worst sequence ever, which FHG wins, was 1 out of literally millions of results!

    Transparency is always the best policy on these forums. The faster a method tanks publicly, the faster we can move on to the next one.

    Reyth has a deep history with Kav, which started when he made Reyth a moderator. At that time, Reyth was testing the Kavouras bet 24/7 trying to get it to work. I noticed that Reyth had abruptly stopped posting his profit/loss statements on his main Kav thread, and called him out on it. Reyth then claimed that he was simply running an experiment, instead of a test, so profit didn't matter. I predicted openly that it would fail as he was clearly withholding information. One day after Reyth stopped posting on that thread (after literally months of posting daily), Kav offered his Kavouras Bet System for sale; the same day he made Reyth a moderator. :no:

    Keep up the good work!!! :thumbsup:

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #54 on: February 27, 2016, 01:58:48 pm »
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  • On a private message Reyth told me that Kav bet is working for him with 5000 units bankroll...
    Actually the bet selection is public, never changes, so what we don't know about it?
    The money management is the only thing J.K. never made common knowledge, but to pay in order to learn the money management? I don't think so.
    In my opinion, whatever selection doesn't change is not flexible to adapt to the ever changing roulette flow, thus destined to fail. 
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #55 on: February 27, 2016, 02:00:24 pm »
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  • Indeed Kavouras was trying to cover Reyth but he shouldn't because Reyth provided false information, however, I think Kavouras is good person, not like Reyth.

    BA,

    How do you know Reyth provided false information? If you're so certain the system can't fail, why do you want it coded?

    BTW, I'm pretty sure that Reyth is a she, not a he. Not that it really matters or means anything.

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #56 on: February 27, 2016, 02:16:04 pm »
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  • Keep in mind that Reyth was a prolific poster apparently working and posting 24/7. There was a time when Reyth was responsible for most of the threads on Roulette30, so Kav probably just saw this as a way to boost visibility and reduce his workload by making Reyth a Mod along with preferential treatment; hence Kav jumping in to save Reyth if anyone should question his lack of evidence for a method.

    I also caught Reyth cutting/pasting literally dozens of methods from other forums without credit. Most of of which had long been debunked on the same threads he took them from. :thumbsdown:

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #57 on: February 27, 2016, 02:23:39 pm »
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  • BA,

    How do you know Reyth provided false information? If you're so certain the system can't fail, why do you want it coded?

    BTW, I'm pretty sure that Reyth is a she, not a he. Not that it really matters or means anything.

    I wanted coded to run it automatically on online casinos while I'm playing it at brick and mortar casinos.
    No, Reyth is he and his name is <edited-out>.
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #58 on: February 27, 2016, 02:59:16 pm »
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  • BA,

    How do you know Reyth provided false information? If you're so certain the system can't fail, why do you want it coded?

    BTW, I'm pretty sure that Reyth is a she, not a he. Not that it really matters or means anything.

    Technically, Reyth refused to offer the exact sequence that necessitated a higher Bankroll; I asked about this, and that's when Kav came to his aid.

    I think he was also just playing 1 color if memory serves me correctly.

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    Re: Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
    « Reply #59 on: February 27, 2016, 03:38:03 pm »
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  • Mike,
     seems this time you are right, never thought a woman as moderator of roulette forum!:-D
    ''For after all what is man in nature?
    A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
    The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
    He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal