Anybody think such bad streak can be won?

BEAT-THE-WHEEL · February 21, 2016, 03:20:32 AM

copied and paste, from Albalaha's
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Every progression or money management talks of increasing or decreasing bets like martingale, labouchere, D'alembert, Parlay etc. If we are betting on an Even Chances bet like "Red" of roulette, and get Wins(here shown as W) and Losses(shown as an L) in the given manner, is there any methodology, we can still win within a sane table and bankroll limit? Have a look:

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Note: There are 140 Losses and only 77 Wins in total.

first 100 spins have only 23 wins and 77 losses, that is a virtual limit
there are only 67 wins in first 200 spins that is the WORSE THAN worst recorded event ever in
any EC bet as per roulette30.com forum i.e. 69/200.

there is a single losing stretch of 23 losses that would need 16 millions chips to get over
with martingale.

with labouchere or fibonacci we will go down in millions in this case

Any taker?

Garfield · February 21, 2016, 04:22:04 AM

Well...some one have already posted similar results with the similar question some time ago.

My "best" response is to stop after 3-4 LIAR. I don't think many will survive this kind of result.

Better to consider the BS. Whatever it is,it's not working. LoL

But really looking forward if someone came up with MM that could handle this.

Sputnik · February 21, 2016, 01:56:15 PM

1-2-4

1-3-6

2-4-8

2-6-12

3-6-12

3-9-18

4-8-16

4-12-24

5-10-20

5-15-30

7-14-28

7-21-42

9-18-36

9-27-54

12-24-48

12-36-72

15-30-60

15-45-90

Nickmsi · February 21, 2016, 04:28:34 PM

Don't bet every spin.

Bet only after a Black hit and you can beat this run.

Cheers

Nick

ozon · February 21, 2016, 04:52:03 PM

After 4 loses wait for virtual win.

Quote from Bayes:

The progression is based on starting from a base of 1 unit and multiplying by around 10% - 12% to get the value of the next stake. Here is a version I just coded which is very similar to the Holloway progression using a percentage of 11.5% which gives approximately the same values and the same number of steps.

The error in the Holloway progression comes from rounding. You can see the same thing here: The middle column is the calculation unrounded and in the right column the numbers have been round DOWN to the nearest whole number. Notice that from step 27 (18u) to step 28 (21u) there is an increase of 3 units, but from step 28 to step 29 (23u) there is an increase of only 2 units!

Depending on how the rounding is done there will usually be some error like this, but it won't make a lot of difference. You could always change the values in the Holloway progression slightly to make the steps between values consistent.

1 1.115 1
2 1.243 1
3 1.386 1
4 1.546 1
5 1.723 1
6 1.922 1
7 2.143 2
8 2.389 2
9 2.664 2
10 2.970 2
11 3.311 3
12 3.692 3
13 4.117 4
14 4.590 4
15 5.118 5
16 5.707 5
17 6.363 6
18 7.095 7
19 7.911 7
20 8.821 8
21 9.835 9
22 10.966 10
23 12.227 12
24 13.633 13
25 15.201 15
26 16.949 16
27 18.898 18
28 21.072 21 << 3 from 18 to 21
29 23.495 23 << 2 from 21 to 23
30 26.197 26
31 29.209 29
32 32.568 32
33 36.314 36
34 40.490 40
35 45.146 45
36 50.338 50
37 56.127 56
38 62.581 62
39 69.778 69
40 77.803 77
41 86.750 86
42 96.726 96
43 107.850 107
44 120.253 120
45 134.082 134
46 149.501 149

Trbfla · February 21, 2016, 04:58:58 PM

Sputnik
How does your 3 step progression recovery work? Do you just go up and down those values?

Sputnik · February 21, 2016, 06:31:38 PM

Here you can read Abou it with testing example ...

http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7709.msg70028#msg70028

Cheers

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 12:59:47 AM

Consider the following example valid for every even chance game (roulette,baccarat,craps,blackjack,coin tossing)
R=result B=bet T=total
R B T
1) L 1 -1
2) L 1 -2
3) L 1 -3
4) L 1 -4
5) L 1 -5
6) L 1 -6
7) L 1 -7
8 ) L 1 -8
9) L 1 -9
10) L 1 -10
11) L 1 -11
12) L 1 -12
13) L 1 -13
14) L 1 -14
15) L 1 -15
16) L 1 -16
17) L 1 -17
18) L 1 -18
19) L 1 -19
20) L 1 -20
21) L 1 -21
22) L 1 -22
23) L 1 -23
24) W 1 -22
25) L 1 -23
26) L 1 -24
27) W 1 -23
28) L 1 -24
29) L 1 -25
30) L 1 -26
31) L 1 -27
32) W 1 -26
33) L 1 -27
34) W 1 -26
35) L 1 -27
36) L 1 -28
37) L 1 -29
38) L 2 -31
39) W 2 -29
40) L 2 -31
41) L 2 -33
42) W 2 -31
43) L 2 -33
44) L 2 -35
45) L 2 -37
46) L 2 -39
47) L 2 -41
48) L 2 -43
49) W 2 -41
50) W 2 -39
51) L 2 -41
52) L 2 -43
53) L 2 -45
54) W 2 -43
55) L 2 -45
56) L 2 -47
57) W 2 -45
58) L 2 -47
59) W 2 -45
60) L 2 -47
61) W 2 -45
62) L 2 -47
63) L 2 -49
64) L 2 -51
65) L 2 -53
66) W 2 -51
67) L 2 -53
68) L 2 -55
69) W 2 -53
70) L 2 -55
71) L 2 -57
72) W 2 -55
73) L 2 -57
74) L 2 -59
75) L 4 -63
76) W 4 -59
77) L 4 -63
78) L 4 -67
79) W 4 -63
80) L 4 -67
81) L 4 -71
82) W 4 -67
83) L 4 -71
84) L 4 -75
85) L 4 -79
86) W 4 -75
87) L 4 -79
88) L 4 -83
89) L 4 -87
90) W 4 -83
91) L 4 -87
92) L 4 -91
93) W 4 -87
94) L 4 -91
95) L 4 -95
96) L 4 -99
97) W 4 -95
98) L 4 -99
99) W 4 -95
100)L 4 -99
101)W 4 -95
102)W 4 -91
103)L 4 -95
104)L 4 -99
105)W 4 -95
106)L 4 -99
107)W 4 -95
108)W 4 -91
109)L 4 -95
110)L 4 -99
111)W 4 -95
112)L 8 -103
113)L 8 -111
114)L 8 -119
115)L 8 -127
116)L 8 -135
117)W 8 -127
118)L 8 -135
119)L 8 -143
120)W 8 -135
121)W 8 -127
122)L 8 -135
123)W 8 -127
124)L 8 -135
125)L 8 -143
126)L 8 -151
127)L 8 -159
128)L 8 -167
129)W 8 -159
130)L 8 -167
131)W 8 -159
132)W 8 -151
133)W 8 -143
134)L 8 -151
135)W 8 -143
136)W 8 -135
137)L 8 -143
138)W 8 -135
139)L 8 -143
140)L 8 -151
141)W 8 -143
142)L 8 -151
143)W 8 -143
144)L 8 -151
145)W 8 -143
146)L 8 -151
147)W 8 -143
148)L 8 -151
149)W 16 -135
150)L 16 -151
151)L 16 -167
152)W 16 -151
153)L 16 -167
154)L 16 -183
155)L 16 -199
156)L 16 -215
157)L 16 -231
158)L 16 -247
159)L 16 -263
160)L 16 -279
161)L 16 -295
162)L 16 -311
163)W 16 -295
164)L 16 -311
165)W 16 -295
166)W 16 -279
167)W 16 -263
168)L 16 -279
169)W 16 -263
170)W 16 -247
171)W 16 -231
172)L 16 -247
173)W 16 -231
174)W 16 -215
175)L 16 -231
176)L 16 -247
177)W 16 -231
178)L 16 -247
179)W 16 -231
180)L 16 -247
181)W 16 -231
182)L 16 -247
183)L 16 -263
184)W 16 -247
185)L 16 -263
186)L 32 -295
187)L 32 -327
188)W 32 -295
189)L 32 -327
190)W 32 -295
191)W 32 -263
192)L 32 -295
193)W 32 -263
194)L 32 -295
195)W 32 -263
196)L 32 -295
197)L 32 -327
198)W 32 -295
199)W 32 -263
200)W 32 -231
201)L 32 -263
202)W 32 -231
203)L 32 -263
204)L 32 -295
205)W 32 -263
206)W 32 -231
207)L 32 -263
208)W 32 -231
209)W 32 -199
210)L 32 -231
211)W 32 -199
212)L 32 -231
213)W 32 -199
214)L 32 -231
215)W 32 -199
216)W 32 -167
217)W 32 -135 <----- NEEDS TO CONTINUE

Of course with very few more wins would have finished in positive, if you could post the next spins here I'm going to show you what I mean.

However, you got the point about how my progression handles such bad results, also important to mention is that it remained within reasonable table and bankroll limits.

The max drawdown was 327 units and the max bet 32, not so big if we consider that the results were almost unrealistically bad.

I'm going to post 2 more examples and once again please post a few more spins from the above session because I want to prove you that it would have won!

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 01:06:50 AM

BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / FRENCH ROULETTE WITH "LE PARTAGE" RULE

S=Spin R=Result T=Total
S R T

1 -1 -1
2 -1 -2
3x +1 -1
4 -1 -2
5x +1 -1
6 -1 -2
7x +1 -1
8 -1 -2
9 -1 -3
10x +1 -2
11 -1 -3
12x +1 -2
13 -1 -3
14/ZERO -0.5 -3.5
15 -1 -4.5
16x +1 -3.5
17 -1 -4.5
18 -1 -5.5
19 -1 -6.5
20 -1 -7.5
21x +1 -6.5
22 -1 -7.5
23x +1 -6.5
24 -1 -7.5
25 -1 -8.5
26 -1 -9.5
27 -1 -10.5
28 -1 -11.5
29x +1 -10.5
30 -1 -11.5
31x +1 -10.5
32x +1 -9.5
33 -1 -10.5
34 -1 -11.5
35x +1 -10.5
36x +1 -9.5
37x +1 -8.5
38x +2 -6.5 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
39 -2 -8.5
40 -2 -10.5
41 -2 -12.5
42x +2 -10.5
43 -2 -12.5
44 -2 -14.5
45x +2 -12.5
46x +2 -10.5
47 -2 -12.5
48 -2 -14.5
49 -2 -16.5
50 -2 -18.5
51 -2 -20.5
52x +2 -18.5
53 -2 -20.5
54 -2 -22.5
55x +2 -20.5
56 -2 -22.5
57 -2 -24.5
58x +2 -22.5
59 -2 -24.5
60 -2 -26.5
61 -2 -28.5
62x +2 -26.5
63 -2 -28.5
64 -2 -30.5
65x +2 -28.5
66 -2 -30.5
67 -2 -32.5
68x +2 -30.5
69x +2 -28.5
70 -2 -30.5
71x +2 -28.5
72 -2 -30.5
73 -2 -32.5
74 -2 -34.5
75x +4 -30.5 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
76 -4 -34.5
77x +4 -30.5
78 -4 -34.5
79 -4 -38.5
80x +4 -34.5
81 -4 -38.5
82 -4 -42.5
83 -4 -46.5
84 -4 -50.5
85 -4 -52.5
86 -4 -56.5
87 -4 -60.5
88 -4 -64.5
89 -4 -68.5
90x +4 -64.5
91 -4 -68.5
92x +4 -64.5
93 -4 -68.5
94 -4 -72.5
95x +4 -68.5
96 -4 -72.5
97x +4 -68.5
98 -4 -72.5
99 -4 -76.5
100 -4 -80.5
101x +4 -76.5
102x +4 -72.5
103 -4 -76.5
104x +4 -72.5
105/ZERO -2 -74.5
106 -4 -78.5
107 -4 -82.5
108 -4 -86.5
109 -4 -90.5
110 -4 -94.5
111 -4 -98.5
112 -8 -106.5 BET RAISES TO 8 UNITS
113 -8 -114.5
114x +8 -106.5
115 -8 -114.5
116 -8 -122.5
117x +8 -114.5
118 -8 -122.5
119x +8 -114.5
120 -8 -122.5
121 -8 -130.5
122x +8 -122.5
123 -8 -130.5
124 -8 -138.5
125 -8 -146.5
126 -8 -154.5
127 -8 -162.5
128x +8 -154.5
129x +8 -146.5
130x +8 -138.5
131x +8 -130.5
132 -8 -138.5
133 -8 -146.5
134x +8 -138.5
135 -8 -146.5
136 -8 -154.5
137 -8 -162.5
138x +8 -154.5
139 -8 -162.5
140x +8 -154.5
141 -8 -162.5
142 -8 -170.5
143x +8 -162.5
144 -8 -170.5
145x +8 -162.5
146x +8 -154.5
147x +8 -146.5
148 -8 -154.5
149x +16 -138.5 BET RAISES TO 16 UNITS
150x +16 -122.5
151 -16 -138.5
152 -16 -154.5
153/ZERO -8 -162.5
154x +16 -146.5
155x +16 -130.5
156 -16 -146.5
157 -16 -162.5
158x +16 -146.5
159 -16 -162.5
160 -16 -178.5
161 -16 -194.5
162 -16 -210.5
163x +16 -194.5
164x +16 -178.5
165 -16 -194.5
166 -16 -210.5
167 -16 -226.5
168x +16 -210.5
169 -16 -226.5
170 -16 -242.5
171x +16 -226.5
172x +16 -210.5
173 -16 -226.5
174x +16 -210.5
175x +16 -194.5
176 -16 -210.5
177 -16 -226.5
178 -16 -242.5
179 -16 -258.5
180x +16 -242.5
181 -16 -258.5
182 -16 -274.5
183 -16 -290.5
184x +16 -274.5
185 -16 -290.5
186/ZERO -16 -306.5 BET RAISES TO 32 UNITS
187x +32 -274.5
188 -32 -306.5
189 -32 -338.5
190/ZERO -16 -354.5
191 -32 -386.5
192x +32 -354.5
193x +32 -322.5
194 -32 -354.5
195 -32 -386.5
196x +32 -354.5
197 -32 -386.5
198 -32 -418.5
199/ZERO -16 -434.5
200 -32 -466.5
201 10 -32 -498.5
202 6 -32 -530.5
203 14 +32 -498.5
204 21 +32 -466.5
205 30 +32 -434.5
206 11 -32 -466.5
207 12 +32 -434.5
208 10 -32 -466.5
209 22 -32 -498.5
210 34 +32 -466.5
211 10 -32 -498.5
212 16 +32 -466.5
213 0 -16 -482.5
214 14 +32 -450.5
215 8 -32 -482.5
216 34 +32 -450.5
217 18 +32 -418.5
218 19 +32 -386.5
219 25 +32 -354.5
220 35 -32 -386.5
221 34 +32 -354.5
222 29 -32 -386.5
223 16 +64 -322.5 BET RAISES TO 64 UNITS
224 21 +64 -258.5
225 12 +64 -194.5
226 30 +64 -130.5
227 9 +64 -66.5
228 34 +64 -2.5
229 32 +64 +61.5 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
230 15 -1 +60.5
231 0 -0.5 +60
232 17 -1 +59
233 2 -1 +58
234 3 +1 +59
235 0 -0.5 +58.5
236 1 +1 +59.5
237 36 +1 +60.5
238 22 -1 +59.5
239 34 +1 +60.5
240 11 -1 +59.5
241 20 -1 +58.5
242 1 +1 +59.5
243 28 -1 +58.5
244 11 -1 +57.5
245 21 +1 +58.5
246 29 -1 +57.5
247 15 -1 +56.5
248 15 -1 +55.5
249 34 +1 +56.5
250 10 -1 +55.5
251 16 +1 +56.5
252 4 -1 +55.5
253 35 -1 +54.5
254 17 -1 +53.5
255 4 -1 +52.5
256 19 +1 +53.5
257 25 +1 +54.5
258 11 -1 +53.5
259 0 -0.5 +53
260 5 +2 +55 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
261 22 -2 +53
262 31 -2 +51
263 0 -1 +50
264 2 -2 +48
265 10 -2 +46
266 6 -2 +44
267 28 -2 +42
268 27 +2 +44
269 4 -2 +42
270 1 +2 +44
271 3 +2 +46
272 11 -2 +44
273 11 -2 +42
274 9 +2 +44
275 5 +2 +46
276 1 +2 +48
277 19 +2 +50
278 11 -2 +48
279 28 -2 +46
280 10 -2 +44
281 15 -2 +42
282 27 +2 +44
283 23 +2 +46
284 13 -2 +44
285 7 +2 +46
286 17 -2 +44
287 35 -2 +42
288 27 +2 +44
289 14 +2 +46
290 21 +2 +48
291 14 +2 +50
292 34 +2 +52
293 11 -2 +50
294 10 -2 +48
295 36 +2 +50
296 24 -2 +48
297 36 +4 +52 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
298 34 +4 +56
299 7 +4 +60
300 5 +4 +64
301 6 -1 +63 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
302 16 +1 +64
303 34 +1 +65
304 34 +1 +66
305 33 -1 +65
306 26 -1 +64
307 1 +1 +65
308 5 +1 +66
309 0 -0.5 +65.5
310 33 -1 +64.5
311 0 -0.5 +64
312 9 +1 +65
313 0 -0.5 +64.5
314 21 +1 +65.5
315 23 +1 +66.5
316 13 -1 +65.5
317 3 +1 +66.5
318 20 -1 +65.5
319 34 +1 +66.5
320 28 -1 +65.5
321 28 -1 +64.5
322 14 +1 +65.5
323 20 -1 +64.5
324 30 +1 +65.5
325 25 +1 +66.5
326 36 +1 +67.5
327 1 +1 +68.5
328 31 -1 +67.5
329 35 -1 +66.5
330 36 +1 +67.5
331 5 +1 +68.5
332 29 -1 +67.5
333 28 -1 +66.5

Summary}
6 cycles of 37 spins / 333 outcomes / +66.5 units total / highest balance +68.5 units/
lowest balance -530.5 units / highest bet 64 units

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 01:54:19 AM

BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / AMERICAN 00 WHEEL

1. 26 -1 -1
2. 17 -1 -2
3. 27 +1 -1
4. 9 +1 0
5. 33 -1 -1
6. 35 -1 -2
7. 19 +1 -1
8. 5 -1 -2
9. 4 -1 -3
10. 8 -1 -4
11. 8 -1 -5
12. 24 -1 -6
13. 22 -1 -7
14. 11 -1 -8
15. 2 -1 -9
16. 17 -1 -10
17. 26 -1 -11
18. 1 +1 -10
19. 22 -1 -11
20. 7 +1 -10
21. 28 -1 -11
22. 24 -1 -12
23. 13 -1 -13
24. 18 +1 -12
25. 36 +1 -11
26. 20 -1 -12
27. 15 -1 -13
28. 13 -1 -14
29. 13 -1 -15
30. 15 -1 -16
31. 15 -1 -17
32. 12 +1 -16
33. 13 -1 -17
34. 11 -1 -18
35. 24 -1 -19
36. 00 -1 -20
37. 00 -1 -21 GO UP TO 2 UNITS
38. 28 -2 -23
39. 4 -2 -25
40. 19 +2 -23
41. 26 -2 -25
42. 9 +2 -23
43. 24 -2 -25
44. 34 +2 -23
45. 14 +2 -21
46. 9 +2 -19
47. 8 -2 -21
48. 24 -2 -23
49. 23 +2 -21
50. 27 +2 -19
51. 25 +2 -17
52. 24 -2 -19
53. 13 -2 -21
54. 29 -2 -23
55. 18 +2 -21
56. 4 -2 -23
57. 1 +2 -21
58. 12 +2 -19
59. 00 -2 -21
60. 10 -2 -23
61. 8 -2 -25
62. 20 -2 -27
63. 18 +2 -25
64. 18 +2 -23
65. 18 +2 -21
66. 7 +2 -19
67. 33 -2 -21
68. 31 -2 -23
69. 21 +2 -21
70. 28 -2 -23
71. 23 +2 -21
72. 22 -2 -23
73. 21 +2 -21
74. 31 -2 -23 GO UP TO 4
75. 35 -4 -27
76. 9 +4 -23
77. 31 -4 -27
78. 25 +4 -23
79. 32 +4 -19
80. 35 -4 -23
81. 27 +4 -19
82. 29 -4 -23
83. 31 -4 -27
84. 23 +4 -23
85. 6 -4 -27
86. 20 -4 -31
87. 1 +4 -27
88. 13 -4 -31
89. 7 +4 -27
90. 27 +4 -23
91. 26 -4 -27
92. 34 +4 -23
93. 29 -4 -27
94. 33 -4 -31
95. 00 -4 -35
96. 17 -4 -39
97. 34 +4 -35
98. 28 -4 -39
99. 1 +4 -35
100. 6 -4 -39
101. 22 -4 -43
102. 3 +4 -39
103. 35 -4 -43
104. 4 -4 -47
105. 2 -4 -51
106. 34 +4 -47
107. 5 +4 -43
108. 36 +4 -39
109. 33 -4 -43
110. 10 -4 -47
111. 3 +4 -43 GO UP TO 8
112. 15 -8 -51
113. 24 -8 -59
114. 27 +8 -51
115. 36 +8 -43
116. 16 +8 -35
117. 23 +8 -27
118. 9 +8 -19
119. 2 -8 -27
120. 22 -8 -35
121. 21 +8 -27
122. 11 -8 -35
123. 33 -8 -43
124. 00 -8 -51
125. 19 +8 -43
126. 12 +8 -35
127. 16 +8 -27
128. 14 +8 -19
129. 31 -8 -27
130. 8 -8 -35
131. 1 +8 -27
132. 19 +8 -19
133. 11 -8 -27
134. 8 -8 -35
135. 20 -8 -43
136. 15 -8 -51
137. 19 +8 -43
138. 25 +8 -35
139. 28 -8 -43
140. 31 -8 -51
141. 32 +8 -43
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143. 4 -8 -59
144. 21 +8 -51
145. 6 -8 -59
146. 28 -8 -67
147. 8 -8 -75
148. 00 -8 -83 GO UP TO 16 UNITS
149. 33 -16 -99
150. 35 -16 -115
151. 20 -16 -131
152. 5 +16 -115
153. 34 +16 -99
154. 4 -16 -115
155. 21 +16 -99
156. 8 -16 -115
157. 3 +16 -99
158. 20 -16 -115
159. 0 -16 -131
160. 00 -16 -147
161. 10 -16 -163
162. 10 -16 -179
163. 22 -16 -195
164. 0 -16 -211
165. 16 +16 -195
166. 9 +16 -179
167. 0 -16 -195
168. 11 -16 -211
169. 35 -16 -227
170. 9 +16 -211
171. 00 -16 -227
172. 26 -16 -243
173. 29 -16 -259
174. 33 -16 -275
175. 0 -16 -291
176. 11 -16 -307
177. 29 -16 -323
178. 32 +16 -307
179. 24 -16 -323
180. 16 +16 -307
181. 30 +16 -291
182. 24 -16 -307
183. 20 -16 -323
184. 20 -16 -339
185. 30 +16 -323 GO UP TO 32
186. 14 +32 -291
187. 33 -32 -323
188. 30 +32 -291
189. 19 +32 -259
190. 9 +32 -227
191. 15 -32 -259
192. 4 -32 -291
193. 1 +32 -259
194. 10 -32 -291
195. 33 -32 -323
196. 14 +32 -291
197. 26 -32 -323
198. 20 -32 -355
199. 31 -32 -387
200. 7 +32 -355
201. 23 +32 -323
202. 22 -32 -355
203. 7 +32 -323
204. 28 -32 -355
205. 9 +32 -323
206. 00 -32 -355
207. 14 +32 -323
208. 22 -32 -355
209. 24 -32 -387
210. 3 +32 -355
211. 26 -32 -387
212. 31 -32 -419
213. 14 +32 -387
214. 22 -32 -419
215. 29 -32 -451
216. 25 +32 -419
217. 9 +32 -387
218. 12 +32 -355
219. 35 -32 -387
220. 31 -32 -419
221. 18 +32 -387
222. 30 +32 -355 GO UP TO 64
223. 7 +64 -291
224. 16 +64 -227
225. 9 +64 -163
226. 7 +64 -99
227. 4 -64 -163
228. 1 +64 -99
229. 26 -64 -163
230. 24 -64 -227
231. 32 +64 -163
232. 1 +64 -99
233. 18 +64 -35
234. 9 +64 +29 RESTART AT 1 UNIT

Summary}

234 outcomes / +29 units total / highest balance +29 units/
lowest balance -451 units / highest bet 64 units

BEAT-THE-WHEEL · February 23, 2016, 06:46:02 AM

copied and paste with author permission.

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93 Losses, 65 Wins
Only 16 wins in the first 60 spins.
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ozon · February 23, 2016, 08:53:20 AM

This is only a concept, when we have such a strong progressions as Blue Angel, we can make improvements, let's assume that we play RNG, we begin to look forward to sessions waiting for inballance of 10 hits in first 20 spins (let's say 14-4 or 15-5 in the EC bets) then start betting on the side with low hits. We play only those sessions.
Then we are already at the start plus 10 positions in the first 37 spins, which are the first stage of the Blue Angel progression. The next improvement is used safebreaks, such as virtual win after 4 losers. The session ends when you first get out on the plus side. We enable the new sessions, and begin to look for a new trigger.

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 04:07:41 PM

Quote from: Blue_Angel on February 23, 2016, 01:06:50 AM
BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / FRENCH ROULETTE WITH "LE PARTAGE" RULE

S=Spin R=Result T=Total
S R T

1 -1 -1
2 -1 -2
3x +1 -1
4 -1 -2
5x +1 -1
6 -1 -2
7x +1 -1
8 -1 -2
9 -1 -3
10x +1 -2
11 -1 -3
12x +1 -2
13 -1 -3
14/ZERO -0.5 -3.5
15 -1 -4.5
16x +1 -3.5
17 -1 -4.5
18 -1 -5.5
19 -1 -6.5
20 -1 -7.5
21x +1 -6.5
22 -1 -7.5
23x +1 -6.5
24 -1 -7.5
25 -1 -8.5
26 -1 -9.5
27 -1 -10.5
28 -1 -11.5
29x +1 -10.5
30 -1 -11.5
31x +1 -10.5
32x +1 -9.5
33 -1 -10.5
34 -1 -11.5
35x +1 -10.5
36x +1 -9.5
37x +1 -8.5
38x +2 -6.5 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
39 -2 -8.5
40 -2 -10.5
41 -2 -12.5
42x +2 -10.5
43 -2 -12.5
44 -2 -14.5
45x +2 -12.5
46x +2 -10.5
47 -2 -12.5
48 -2 -14.5
49 -2 -16.5
50 -2 -18.5
51 -2 -20.5
52x +2 -18.5
53 -2 -20.5
54 -2 -22.5
55x +2 -20.5
56 -2 -22.5
57 -2 -24.5
58x +2 -22.5
59 -2 -24.5
60 -2 -26.5
61 -2 -28.5
62x +2 -26.5
63 -2 -28.5
64 -2 -30.5
65x +2 -28.5
66 -2 -30.5
67 -2 -32.5
68x +2 -30.5
69x +2 -28.5
70 -2 -30.5
71x +2 -28.5
72 -2 -30.5
73 -2 -32.5
74 -2 -34.5
75x +4 -30.5 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
76 -4 -34.5
77x +4 -30.5
78 -4 -34.5
79 -4 -38.5
80x +4 -34.5
81 -4 -38.5
82 -4 -42.5
83 -4 -46.5
84 -4 -50.5
85 -4 -52.5
86 -4 -56.5
87 -4 -60.5
88 -4 -64.5
89 -4 -68.5
90x +4 -64.5
91 -4 -68.5
92x +4 -64.5
93 -4 -68.5
94 -4 -72.5
95x +4 -68.5
96 -4 -72.5
97x +4 -68.5
98 -4 -72.5
99 -4 -76.5
100 -4 -80.5
101x +4 -76.5
102x +4 -72.5
103 -4 -76.5
104x +4 -72.5
105/ZERO -2 -74.5
106 -4 -78.5
107 -4 -82.5
108 -4 -86.5
109 -4 -90.5
110 -4 -94.5
111 -4 -98.5
112 -8 -106.5 BET RAISES TO 8 UNITS
113 -8 -114.5
114x +8 -106.5
115 -8 -114.5
116 -8 -122.5
117x +8 -114.5
118 -8 -122.5
119x +8 -114.5
120 -8 -122.5
121 -8 -130.5
122x +8 -122.5
123 -8 -130.5
124 -8 -138.5
125 -8 -146.5
126 -8 -154.5
127 -8 -162.5
128x +8 -154.5
129x +8 -146.5
130x +8 -138.5
131x +8 -130.5
132 -8 -138.5
133 -8 -146.5
134x +8 -138.5
135 -8 -146.5
136 -8 -154.5
137 -8 -162.5
138x +8 -154.5
139 -8 -162.5
140x +8 -154.5
141 -8 -162.5
142 -8 -170.5
143x +8 -162.5
144 -8 -170.5
145x +8 -162.5
146x +8 -154.5
147x +8 -146.5
148 -8 -154.5
149x +16 -138.5 BET RAISES TO 16 UNITS
150x +16 -122.5
151 -16 -138.5
152 -16 -154.5
153/ZERO -8 -162.5
154x +16 -146.5
155x +16 -130.5
156 -16 -146.5
157 -16 -162.5
158x +16 -146.5
159 -16 -162.5
160 -16 -178.5
161 -16 -194.5
162 -16 -210.5
163x +16 -194.5
164x +16 -178.5
165 -16 -194.5
166 -16 -210.5
167 -16 -226.5
168x +16 -210.5
169 -16 -226.5
170 -16 -242.5
171x +16 -226.5
172x +16 -210.5
173 -16 -226.5
174x +16 -210.5
175x +16 -194.5
176 -16 -210.5
177 -16 -226.5
178 -16 -242.5
179 -16 -258.5
180x +16 -242.5
181 -16 -258.5
182 -16 -274.5
183 -16 -290.5
184x +16 -274.5
185 -16 -290.5
186/ZERO -16 -306.5 BET RAISES TO 32 UNITS
187x +32 -274.5
188 -32 -306.5
189 -32 -338.5
190/ZERO -16 -354.5
191 -32 -386.5
192x +32 -354.5
193x +32 -322.5
194 -32 -354.5
195 -32 -386.5
196x +32 -354.5
197 -32 -386.5
198 -32 -418.5
199/ZERO -16 -434.5
200 -32 -466.5
201 10 -32 -498.5
202 6 -32 -530.5
203 14 +32 -498.5
204 21 +32 -466.5
205 30 +32 -434.5
206 11 -32 -466.5
207 12 +32 -434.5
208 10 -32 -466.5
209 22 -32 -498.5
210 34 +32 -466.5
211 10 -32 -498.5
212 16 +32 -466.5
213 0 -16 -482.5
214 14 +32 -450.5
215 8 -32 -482.5
216 34 +32 -450.5
217 18 +32 -418.5
218 19 +32 -386.5
219 25 +32 -354.5
220 35 -32 -386.5
221 34 +32 -354.5
222 29 -32 -386.5
223 16 +64 -322.5 BET RAISES TO 64 UNITS
224 21 +64 -258.5
225 12 +64 -194.5
226 30 +64 -130.5
227 9 +64 -66.5
228 34 +64 -2.5
229 32 +64 +61.5 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
230 15 -1 +60.5
231 0 -0.5 +60
232 17 -1 +59
233 2 -1 +58
234 3 +1 +59
235 0 -0.5 +58.5
236 1 +1 +59.5
237 36 +1 +60.5
238 22 -1 +59.5
239 34 +1 +60.5
240 11 -1 +59.5
241 20 -1 +58.5
242 1 +1 +59.5
243 28 -1 +58.5
244 11 -1 +57.5
245 21 +1 +58.5
246 29 -1 +57.5
247 15 -1 +56.5
248 15 -1 +55.5
249 34 +1 +56.5
250 10 -1 +55.5
251 16 +1 +56.5
252 4 -1 +55.5
253 35 -1 +54.5
254 17 -1 +53.5
255 4 -1 +52.5
256 19 +1 +53.5
257 25 +1 +54.5
258 11 -1 +53.5
259 0 -0.5 +53
260 5 +2 +55 BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
261 22 -2 +53
262 31 -2 +51
263 0 -1 +50
264 2 -2 +48
265 10 -2 +46
266 6 -2 +44
267 28 -2 +42
268 27 +2 +44
269 4 -2 +42
270 1 +2 +44
271 3 +2 +46
272 11 -2 +44
273 11 -2 +42
274 9 +2 +44
275 5 +2 +46
276 1 +2 +48
277 19 +2 +50
278 11 -2 +48
279 28 -2 +46
280 10 -2 +44
281 15 -2 +42
282 27 +2 +44
283 23 +2 +46
284 13 -2 +44
285 7 +2 +46
286 17 -2 +44
287 35 -2 +42
288 27 +2 +44
289 14 +2 +46
290 21 +2 +48
291 14 +2 +50
292 34 +2 +52
293 11 -2 +50
294 10 -2 +48
295 36 +2 +50
296 24 -2 +48
297 36 +4 +52 BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
298 34 +4 +56
299 7 +4 +60
300 5 +4 +64
301 6 -1 +63 BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT
302 16 +1 +64
303 34 +1 +65
304 34 +1 +66
305 33 -1 +65
306 26 -1 +64
307 1 +1 +65
308 5 +1 +66
309 0 -0.5 +65.5
310 33 -1 +64.5
311 0 -0.5 +64
312 9 +1 +65
313 0 -0.5 +64.5
314 21 +1 +65.5
315 23 +1 +66.5
316 13 -1 +65.5
317 3 +1 +66.5
318 20 -1 +65.5
319 34 +1 +66.5
320 28 -1 +65.5
321 28 -1 +64.5
322 14 +1 +65.5
323 20 -1 +64.5
324 30 +1 +65.5
325 25 +1 +66.5
326 36 +1 +67.5
327 1 +1 +68.5
328 31 -1 +67.5
329 35 -1 +66.5
330 36 +1 +67.5
331 5 +1 +68.5
332 29 -1 +67.5
333 28 -1 +66.5

Summary}
6 cycles of 37 spins / 333 outcomes / +66.5 units total / highest balance +68.5 units/
lowest balance -530.5 units / highest bet 64 units

For the first cycle of 37 spins the SD is 2.23

For the first 2 cycles (74 spins) the SD is 3.32

For the first 3 cycles (111 spins) the SD is 4.36

For the first 4 cycles (148 spins) the SD is 4.69

For the first 5 cycles (185 spins) the SD is 5.10

For the first 6 cycles (222 spins) the SD is 5.29

The net profit of 61.5 is being achieved on the 229th spin and at that time the SD was 4.94

The maximum drawdown was on 202nd spin with -530.5 and 5.50 SD

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 04:15:26 PM

The rules of my method

You've arrived at the roulette table and you are writing down the last 10 to 12 results from the matrix, from that point forth you are going to write 25 to 27 more results in order to have the last 37 spins in your scoresheet.

Check to find the EC with the least appearances within those spins and bet it as long as remains least shown.
From now on till the end of your session you have a non stop betting plan to follow.
While you flat bet 1 unit for the second 37 spins you keep writing every EC as it hits in your scoresheet.

The time to change your bet selection is whenever there is another least shown EC, in case there is a tie between 2 EC's, bet the one which has been missing more spins since it's last appearance (older).

The betting amount doesn't change when you change EC, it only changes when after 37 successive bets your total hasn't reach a new high, in such case you double the betting amount for the next 37 spins.

The point is to increase gradually the amounts like Martingale progression but in 37 spins cycle scale till your bankroll reaches a new high, WHENEVER you reach a new high balance you are resetting the bet amount to 1 unit or end the session.

By resetting the bet amount it doesn't mean that you have to change
the EC you are betting, bet selection and progression are changing NOT necessarily the same time.

I hope everything was clear but if you have questions I'll be at your disposal.

Blue_Angel · February 23, 2016, 05:57:44 PM

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7) L 1 -5
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9) W 1 -3
10) L 1 -4
11) L 1 -5
12) L 1 -6
13) W 1 -5
14) L 1 -6
15) L 1 -7
16) L 1 -8
17) L 1 -9
18) W 1 -8
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20) L 1 -10
21) L 1 -11
22) L 1 -12
23) L 1 -13
24) L 1 -14
25) W 1 -13
26) L 1 -14
27) L 1 -15
28) L 1 -16
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30) W 1 -16
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35) W 1 -17
36) L 1 -18
37) L 1 -19
38) L 2 -21
39) L 2 -23
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42) L 2 -25
43) L 2 -27
44) W 2 -25
45) L 2 -27
46) W 2 -25
47) W 2 -23
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49) L 2 -27
50) L 2 -29
51) L 2 -31
52) L 2 -33
53) L 2 -35
54) W 2 -33
55) L 2 -35
56) L 2 -37
57) W 2 -35
58) L 2 -37
59) L 2 -39
60) W 2 -37
61) L 2 -39
62) W 2 -37
63) W 2 -35
64) L 2 -37
65) L 2 -39
66) L 2 -41
67) W 2 -39
68) W 2 -37
69) L 2 -39
70) L 2 -41
71) W 2 -39
72) L 2 -41
73) W 2 -39
74) W 2 -37
75) L 4 -41
76) W 4 -37
77) L 4 -41
78) L 4 -45
79) W 4 -41
80) W 4 -37
81) L 4 -41
82) L 4 -45
83) W 4 -41
84) L 4 -45
85) W 4 -41
86) L 4 -45
87) W 4 -41
88) W 4 -37
89) L 4 -41
90) W 4 -37
91) L 4 -41
92) L 4 -45
93) L 4 -49
94) W 4 -45
95) W 4 -41
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100) L 4 -45
101) L 4 -49
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104) L 4 -45
105) L 4 -49
106) L 4 -53
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109)W 4 -41
110) L 4 -45
111) L 4 -49
112)W 8 -41
113) L 8 -49
114)W 8 -41
115)W 8 -33
116) L 8 -41
117) L 8 -49
118)W 8 -41
119)W 8 -33
120) L 8 -41
121) L 8 -49
122) L 8 -57
123)W 8 -49
124) L 8 -57
125)W 8 -49
126) L 8 -57
127) L 8 -65
128)W 8 -57
129) L 8 -65
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131) L 8 -65
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133)W 8 -49
134) L 8 -57
135)W 8 -49
136) L 8 -57
137)W 8 -49
138) L 8 -57
139)W 8 -49
140)W 8 -41
141) L 8 -49
142) L 8 -57
143)W 8 -49
144)W 8 -41
145) L 8 -49
146)W 8 -41
147) L 8 -49
148) L 8 -57
149)W 16 -41
150)W 16 -25
151) L 16 -41
152)W 16 -25
153)W 16 -9
154) L 16 -25
155)W 16 -9
156) L 16 -25
157)W 16 -9
158)W 16 +7

When results are good every progression does well, but what happens in the worst possible scenario?!

This is how I keep on winning even in such extreme cases.

Millions of possible combinations and yet a player could lose only by himself...