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1. It would be the best to use baccarat and pick Players as your permanent bet. I have given reasons to pick that earlier in my blog.

2. It would be the best to expect balance only in very long run. I have explained long run too earlier.

QuoteFrequent and/or long streaks create the total difference, thus by following the last decision will eventually place us on the winning side.

If you believe this, you are more than ignorant after so many years of being on forums. No betselection gives us any edge by itself. Every betselection be it the simplest one or the most complex one will face same level of good and bad times as any other will do. Any prediction is only a blind speculation and only prediction that would be true always lies in "the law of large numbers".
  Such harsh sessions are possible with any EC betting one can choose and an informed gambler will be losing the least in the worst of the possibilities too. Expecting flat bet win or "intelligent guessing leading to victory" are F OO L's Gold only.

30TH HARSH SESSION:     67 WINS VS 81 LOSSES


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There is a pearl of simplicity called d'Alembert.

Its principle is crystal clear and rock solid, for every loss there is a win, the only question is how much time and money needed in order to overcome even the worst possible situation?
D'Alembert doesn't need to reach equilibrium state in order to become profitable but a 35% wins approximately will suffice.

I've checked all of the horrible sessions here and from user ''beatthewheel'' and the worst was 67 wins VS 133 losses, which is 66 losses more than the wins, after that point this difference will be reduced gradually and within the next 100 to 200 outcomes D'Alembert would turn things around by ending up with a profît even after such terrible results.

A lifetime bankroll equal to the worst scenario (67 wins VS 133 losses), would be approximately something less than 2,500 units, in such extreme deviation the max bet would reach 67 units and the max duration till profit would be approximately 370 bets/results.
I understand that for some sounds too much money and time but we are talking about winning every possible sequence under the sun!

In my consideration it is like investment rather than gambling, 2500 units lifetime bankroll it's an amount which you are going to double it within a month from the time you start.

What I'm saying is not subjective but certainty as the sun will dawn tomorrow. period

Are you still seeking for HGs??

Blue Angel
You count on less deviation in subsequent spins, but it may not happen.
I experienced worse sessions on betvoyager RNG, where for 500 spin deviations were unreal, maybe on the live wheel would be to avoid.
But RNG will destroy such progressions in a moment

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 08:16:59 PM
Blue Angel
You count on less deviation in subsequent spins, but it may not happen.
I experienced worse sessions on betvoyager RNG, where for 500 spin deviations were unreal, maybe on the live wheel would be to avoid.
But RNG will destroy such progressions in a moment

I thought users Albalaha and beathewheel have already posted the worst of the worst, if you have seen worse than those then you should post such sequence in order to scrutinise it.
It's hard to believe you've experienced worse than all of these harsh sessions here and at: ''does anyone think that can beat such bad streak?''.

I just have progressions, similar to Albalaha.
Prepared for the heaviest sessions, is unfortunately to slow on the live wheel.
The simulations look great,
But RNG gives such a series that mathematics has nothing to say.
I played this progression really much, betvoyager was not the worst.
Software netent like royal panda. Crazy sessions. Unbelievable deviations.
I does not save the session, but after my progression and spins amounts sometimes I can judge how bad the session was.
And  when  i lose  session after session, i  know  is  something  wrong.

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
I just have progressions, similar to Albalaha.
Prepared for the heaviest sessions, is unfortunately to slow on the live wheel.
The simulations look great,
But RNG gives such a series that mathematics has nothing to say.
I played this progression really much, betvoyager was not the worst.
Software netent like royal panda. Crazy sessions. Unbelievable deviations.
I does not save the session, but after my progression and spins amounts sometimes I can judge how bad the session was.
And  when  i lose  session after session, i  know  is  something  wrong.

I believe you are telling the truth, but I'd like to listen Albalaha regarding RNGs in general and BetVoyager specifically.

It's hard when you lose with a sophisticated progression/selection and on the same time a degenerated gambler wins big amounts by playing slots, this is where your money goes, to progressive jackpots! What a joke!

Your well thought plan/strategy doomed just because you, like everybody else, has to lose no matter what method you are applying!

It's a sugarcoated stuff that they expect us to swallow, but we don't have to!
Afterall luck beats brains and nothing can stand against a sequence from hell(?)

If the kind of progressions you are using are ''slow'' in profit then perhaps are not worth to bother at B&M casinos, or you should use higher value per unit to make it worth the time at the tables.

I found the site with the simulation d'alambert
https://bettingsimulation.com/

I lost BR 3000 units in 3500 spins, the highest bet was 97 units.

I have some good patents that will improve the usual dalambert and maybe something to keep from losing 3000 units and be a plus

Betvoyager is an honest casino when it comes to numbers.
But disconnections increase the edge of the casino to a huge percentage of what makes it completely impossible to play there.

I even have a strategy that in the longrunie beats the casino  nozero even with a commission of 10% of the winnings, but the exclusion completely ruins it.
Edge is generated so small that it does not win on roulette with zero

The progression of which I wrote unfortunately is not too good for the BM casino, sometimes you need 400-500 spins to get out plus in very heavy sessions.
Calculations are also complicated and you have to play each spin.

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
The progression of which I wrote unfortunately is not too good for the BM casino, sometimes you need 400-500 spins to get out plus in very heavy sessions.
Calculations are also complicated and you have to play each spin.

Not so practical in short, makes you wonder if it worths to bother.

I believe it doesn't have to do with your progression specifically but with EC payout in general.
I've said several times before that gaining an edge by betting ECs is possible but the profit would be so puny which doesn't worth the time, effort and money invested in my consideration.

On roulette I play only straight up numbers, besides if you are fond of EC bets then why to bother with roulette when you can find better odds on Craps, Baccarat and Blackjack?

I've never been more interested in blackjack.
But lately I've just read that using single deck blackjack and using a basic strategy will reduce house edge to 0.17%
I even learned that my country in the BM casinos unfortunately do not have this variety of blackjack.
I have positive progression on using double dozen bets I can generate profit on wheels nozero
I'm currently trying to translate this progression into EC bets, but I have not done any RX simulations yet, so I do not know.
I know it works with 1.50 odds but I do not know how to use that to odds 2.00 odds.

Basic strategy alone is not good enough, consider the 2 following options:

1) Looking for 2 wins in a row has something less than 25% chance to happen or 1 out of 4 trials

2) The dealer to get busted has something more than 33.33% probability to occur or 1 out of 3 decisions

When you win twice in a row you net 3 units (excluding your first wager) or more if these wins coincide with BlacJack(s).
When you lose 75 times out of 100 your bankroll will be depleted by 1 or 2 units.

When you win by the dealer getting busted you could win up to 5 units by betting simultaneously on 5 different boxes.
When the dealer is not busted this doesn't prevent you win by BJ naturals or otherwise.
But you have not to get busted before the dealer, thus you have to take decisions for all boxes and not to hit when you have 12 or more (excluding Aces).
Split only 2,3,6,7,8 and aces only if you could hit after splitting (optionally).

Therefore the second strategy is better because you are going to win 33 times out of 100 5 units (on average), more wins and more profit per win.

Keep a mental count of how many decisions passed since the dealer has been busted last time, bet the required amount of units per box in order to be in overall profit when the bust occurs.

What you opined made many play progressions like martingale and lose what can not be earned back. Things are not so easy and simple.

Quote from: ozon on July 29, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
... and you have to play each spin.

Can you explain why you have to play each spin, or why it is a disadvantage to miss some spins?

It was about progression, she is long enough to not pass any spin. It is so constructed.
I'm not against triggers, if you have a strategy that thanks to bet selection it improves accuracy.
I played the game for this very long progression I played black.
Leaving some spin at it just did not calculate, even playing live online roulette would have to be done in a group because, as I wrote not workable for one person would be playing a 500 spins session without interruption.