Holy Grail: Randomness can be beaten even in the long run-II

PatternAnalys · May 03, 2020, 06:32:26 AM

here another Albalaha's extreme,
which bet through filter.

Quote from: Albalaha on April 25, 2020, 09:48:40 AM
Just tested this dreaded session of EC and finally won a net profit. It has 141 Losses vs 94 wins i.e. -2.65 SD
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here bet
(wwww)if lose all 4spins/hands,
bet (LLLL)

h=hit
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Albalaha · May 03, 2020, 07:19:10 AM

@patternanalysis,
It is easy to find how to bet after seeing a session. If you wait for LLLL to make a bet, you will averagely make one bet after 16 spins and in worst cases your one bet could take you upto 300 spins of waiting too. It still won't make you any safe. That is the beauty of randomness. I wonder that even after decades on forums, people still have childish ideas to play.

PatternAnalys · May 03, 2020, 07:31:11 AM

another Albalaha's extreme, bet through filter

Quote from: Albalaha on April 26, 2020, 11:36:00 AM
#2 153 LOSSES VS 106 WINS

SOMEHOW LIKE WHAT AGRALIM WANTED: BEATEN AT THE LAST WIN. OVERALL -2.4 SD. -5.46 SD IN THE FIRST 50 TRIALS WITH 5/60 WINS. KIND OF VIRTUAL LIMITS. THE SESSION HAD REGULAR UPS AND DOWNS THEREAFTER TOO. NO PATCHY OR CORRECTIVE WINS.

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PatternAnalys · May 03, 2020, 07:41:50 AM

Dear Albalaha,
Sir,
With due respect.

I think, since, it,
the extreme variance,
kills everyone br,
and previous profits too...

Then, my main purpose,
is not, to look for,
an EDGE, but to avoid
EXTREME VARIANCE.

We need to seek any
possible way,
to avoid going through it.

Albalaha · May 03, 2020, 08:20:05 AM

Quote from: PatternAnalys on May 03, 2020, 07:41:50 AM
Dear Albalaha,
Sir,
With due respect.

I think, since, it,
the extreme variance,
kills everyone br,
and previous profits too...

Then, my main purpose,
is not, to look for,
an EDGE, but to avoid
EXTREME VARIANCE.

We need to seek any
possible way,
to avoid going through it.

You can not avoid variance by doing anything like this. Even if you bet once in 100 trials you may still get 10 successive losses. Learn to face the variance as it is beyond your control to avoid it altogether.

hgwen · May 03, 2020, 10:45:11 AM

Quote from: hgwen on April 30, 2020, 06:10:57 PM
Ok.

You should pass this one from random.org like the others but it's a bad one from spin 101 to spin 400.

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@Albalaha, did you test this session?

PatternAnalys · May 03, 2020, 11:31:43 AM

Quote from: Albalaha on April 15, 2020, 12:27:16 PM
53 losses vs 37 wins: (how does such sessions go with your MM)?

bet (wwww), if lose all 4 ,bet next (LLLL)
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sean · May 03, 2020, 04:35:09 PM

Hi Albalaha,

You recommend a bankroll of 300/600units

What is the number of units that you recommend as mini stop losses?

Albalaha · May 04, 2020, 03:32:43 AM

Mini Stop losses could be defined as per your comfort level. I define it as 5 more losses than wins. For example LLLWWLLLLLLLLL
here LLLWWLLLLLLLLL red colored area defines an MSL for me. Size of unit or count may vary depending upon your progression.

Albalaha · May 04, 2020, 05:18:06 AM

Quote from: hgwen on April 30, 2020, 06:10:57 PM
Ok.

You should pass this one from random.org like the others but it's a bad one from spin 101 to spin 400.

It was tough from #105 and it took 621 bets to beat it with a net profit thereafter. Horrible losses all over: 268 Wins vs 355 Losses
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sean · May 04, 2020, 07:12:48 AM

do you mean that in the first 621 bets, you are in negative units and only reaches positive units after bet 621?

what was the net profit in units after bet 621?

sean · May 04, 2020, 08:05:13 AM

what do you do after each mini stop loss? do u consider it as a loss or do you include the losses (from the mini stop loss) as part of subsequent bets for recovery?

Quote from: Albalaha on May 04, 2020, 03:32:43 AM
Mini Stop losses could be defined as per your comfort level. I define it as 5 more losses than wins. For example LLLWWLLLLLLLLL
here LLLWWLLLLLLLLL red colored area defines an MSL for me. Size of unit or count may vary depending upon your progression.

Albalaha · May 04, 2020, 09:46:05 AM

Quote from: sean on May 04, 2020, 08:05:13 AM
what do you do after each mini stop loss? do u consider it as a loss or do you include the losses (from the mini stop loss) as part of subsequent bets for recovery?

Mini Stop loss stops my progression for a win target. I try to earn ahead afresh than pushing to win back of the lost sum of MSL. Pushing to win too bad times give us irreparable loss. It is a complex methodology to avoid the worst outcomes, in any eventuality. Thos playing a 10 step martingale can't even comprehend this even slightly.

sean · May 04, 2020, 11:51:36 AM

Do you mean that you increase the value of one unit after your mini stop loss?

Quote from: Albalaha on May 04, 2020, 09:46:05 AM
Mini Stop loss stops my progression for a win target. I try to earn ahead afresh than pushing to win back of the lost sum of MSL. Pushing to win too bad times give us irreparable loss. It is a complex methodology to avoid the worst outcomes, in any eventuality. Thos playing a 10 step martingale can't even comprehend this even slightly.

sean · May 04, 2020, 12:00:56 PM

How many units do you win with a session like this?

Quote from: Albalaha on May 04, 2020, 05:18:06 AM
It was tough from #105 and it took 621 bets to beat it with a net profit thereafter. Horrible losses all over: 268 Wins vs 355 Losses
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