Dear Friends,
I am putting a real session of smartlive casino having 185 spins. for those, who are not familiar with this data, let me tell u that the session starts from lowest right side and progresses right to left and goes upwards.
Our betselection is static/fixed: we are betting third dozen only. You can see that there are 56 hits of third dozen (25-36). Play it with your favorite Money management and let's see who can do it better.
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Hey Sumit,
Thanks for spicing things up :)
Hi Albalaha,
I just played your session (only D3) with my own rules , triggers , L/W strategys, virtual play, MM..etc...
Hello . . . .
Attached find an Excel sheet for Negative Progressions on betting Dozen 3.
You can enter whatever progression you like in Column AB (Brown) and you will get the results.
For example, it has a standard Martingale in Column AB now.
It shows a profit of 1,023 units.
Enjoy . . .
Nick & Stef
Thanks Victor, Katilla and Nick.
Kats, your style resembles 90% of mine.
Nick, Your progression did too good but it may go ugly with little more bad session.
For Katilla and Nick,
another session. This time, fight with second dozen,in the way you did third dozen in the earlier sample.
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Al,
Do we have to play strictly the "dozens" or can we play this in our normal style?
AD
we need to play only the particularly and comparatively worse dozen. One strategy that u like to play on a dozen that works on good as well as bad situations like katilla and nick came up with.
Hi Albalaha , here is the session with Dozen 2 , not easy but still in profit, not big W and not big DD.
Attached another Excel Tracker testing Dozen #2.
Marty still holds sway with a profit of 3,403 units.
We know you will get burned in long run, but nice profit anyway.
Enjoy . . .
Nick
Quote from: Nickmsi on March 19, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Attached another Excel Tracker testing Dozen #2.
Marty still holds sway with a profit of 3,403 units.
We know you will get burned in long run, but nice profit anyway.
Enjoy . . .
Nick
Nick,
Uh, not very realistic, wouldn't you say?
AD
Great Job Katilla,
You have done a fabulous job. Let me find one more real session of similar nature. If you beat that too, with same set of rules.
Adulay,
Check Kattila's excels. What he is doing is very fine example of "extreme variance control".
Nick,
Thanks for your inputs. You have proved that even simple concepts may earn huge. Can you compute net profit with all three dozens played throughout the 185 spins, with the same progression?
Quote from: Albalaha on March 20, 2013, 06:04:57 AM
Adulay,
Check Kattila's excels. What he is doing is very fine example of "extreme variance control".
Hmm, yes I do see what you're looking at. Slowing the "rate of loss" is working there for sure.
It's also worth taking a closer look at for reference.
AD
Play this with Third Dozen.
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Here is the 3rd session(now Doz 3) same rules, positive final result again .
cheers
Now imagine how this strategys can work with better bet selection and bet on 9 inside numbers ( bet max. 4 times after trigger),
or bet on 6 inside numbers ( bet max . 5 or 6 times after trigger ). Trigger ? Hot sectors.
cheers
Standard Fibo wins this match with +1798.
Yes, I know, most people won't play this way, but we are just having fun and the object was to see what method would win the most.
Cheers . . .
Nick
Hat's off to both of you. :applause: Nick, big drawdowns (specially while doubling up) may be fatal to our bankroll very easily and I have personally witnesses a dozen not coming even upto 30 spins. If you can do it within a limited bankroll say 1000 units max and can have better winning ratio than losing it, one can go for steep progressions as well.
Anybody else willing to fight the monster called variance/dispersion?
Malcop created a good tracker for Kattila's way of beating worst sessions.
You can find the tracker here: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/13828518/Kattilas-Dozen-method-with-tracker#.UpdNHNIW1A4 (http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/13828518/Kattilas-Dozen-method-with-tracker#.UpdNHNIW1A4)
Quote from: Albalaha on March 18, 2013, 03:50:17 AM
Dear Friends,
I am putting a real session of smartlive casino having 185 spins. for those, who are not familiar with this data, let me tell u that the session starts from lowest right side and progresses right to left and goes upwards.
Our betselection is static/fixed: we are betting third dozen only. You can see that there are 56 hits of third dozen (25-36). Play it with your favorite Money management and let's see who can do it better.
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For what it's worth and to bring this thread up to date with the current working/testing system as of this date, I ran the VDW play from Nickmsi on this particular set of numbers.
Flat betting 56 Wins. 48 losses with only TWO of the losses coming on a "green"!
Not bad for flat betting.
Long losing streak was 4 (twice but not consecutive) and the longest winning streak was 6. Obviously any long streak on either side is a winning play.
AD
Hi . I have the idea to exploit Kattila way, the EC bets.
Way will be a little more aggressive but it can modify at will.
Progressions when we play will show the EC, then play 1 unit for this event if we win we raise stakes +1, if the lose we play for the same stakes, we play up to 3 times if you lose 3 times in a row, waiting for the virtual win, after a virtual win we play -1units than befor.
To use triggers, wait for 10 or more repetitions of the same Ec, the wait opposite color, this is our first virtual win then begins to bet, profit target 10 units on the trigger, I do not know how stoplose fix, maybe - 300 units for the sessions.
I think, however, that progression better works with dozens .
As played Kattila
Still think that it will be a loser in long run.
Albalaha,
I realize this is an old thread but the topic has recently come up of "actual results" again with a local group and wondered where you would point someone looking for "actuals" similar to those that you've posted in the past.
Thanks.
AD
@Captain,
Nice to hear from you. Actually, I play RNG full time these days as playing inside bets live online is a very painful affair without bots. I can look for such sessions further but can not guarantee to produce any thing alike.
Are you into playing dozens?
Good to hear from you.
No, not really playing roulette but when I have some time to kill and don't feel like getting "settled in" at a bac table, I'll sit at the roulette machine for a short time.
Toying with some ideas but nothing serious for now.
Thanks.
AD