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Started by Albalaha, August 01, 2016, 06:21:49 AM

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Albalaha

If your way is purely mechanical, learning the same is not so difficult. Experience is all about having our own inputs that is not needed in a purely mechanical way to play. If winning your way varies with individual's judgement, intellect or experience, it is not purely mechanical way to play.
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Gizmotron

Quote from: Albalaha on August 06, 2016, 05:03:06 AM
If your way is purely mechanical, learning the same is not so difficult. Experience is all about having our own inputs that is not needed in a purely mechanical way to play. If winning your way varies with individual's judgement, intellect or experience, it is not purely mechanical way to play.

Right you are. I need to program my experience so that several sets of mechanical rules might be applied. Not the easiest of tasks but doable.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

MarkTeruya

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 06, 2016, 01:26:27 AM
I already taught 10 students the rudimentary basics of what I do.
Where are they then, let them come forward, no newly created ID's please

Quote from: esoito on August 06, 2016, 01:41:58 AM
Why haven't you read the Rules?    http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/our-forum's-very-straightforward-*rules*/
fair dinkum cobber, I assumed, I never read rules on any site.  Can't reflect well on the board owner that he is going to allow people to sell snake oil in their own sections.

Kimo Li

Quote from: Mike on August 05, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Kimo,

So you're saying that your GPM is actually an AP method? I haven't read your books, but I've seen enough of your posts at various forums over the years which suggest that isn't the case. You admit that your books outline only a way of "mapping" the wheel, and that the GPM also provides a "language" with which to communicate and decipher ball movement. So we still have the question of how you select your bets. If it's a form of VB, then how can the bet selection be as subjective as it appears to be? The core principles of VB are not subjective.

Mapping the wheel, providing the means to effectively memorise it, and deciphering ball movements may all be valuable additions to the roulette player's arsenal, but they're not a substitute for bet selection (which is what this thread is about). When it actually comes to the time to select a bet, how does all the paraphernalia of GPM tell you how to proceed if it's not based on past spins? And if it's based on past spins, you're back in the fallacy.

It seems to me that you're trying to add an element of physics to GPM in order to give it an air of respectability, but in fact there's no real physics involved at all. It's basically a trending system, albeit a rather sophisticated one. A case of physics envy perhaps?

A chimpanzee is minding his own business, enjoying his spoils of his labor, and teaching the group how to hunt for termites. Along comes an anthropologist, quick to observe and note that the chimpanzee is using a twig as a tool to capture termites to eat.  Certainly, there must be a scientific reason behind the process of retrieving the termite. The twig must be flexible; it must be a certain length, and diameter, not to mention that the primate has an opposing thumb. Humans...

Regarding bet selection, GPM is in a class of its own. Schtum...
"Keep it in check," The Random Roulette Spin, Kimo Li

3Nine

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 06, 2016, 10:12:54 AM
A chimpanzee is minding his own business, enjoying his spoils of his labor, and teaching the group how to hunt for termites. Along comes an anthropologist, quick to observe and note that the chimpanzee is using a twig as a tool to capture termites to eat.  Certainly, there must be a scientific reason behind the process of retrieving the termite. The twig must be flexible; it must be a certain length, and diameter, not to mention that the primate has an opposing thumb. Humans...

Regarding bet selection, GPM is in a class of its own. Schtum...

Yet, the tool says nothing about WHERE to find the termites.  One can learn a direction to look in, but that's as far as it goes.




BEAT-THE-WHEEL

Haloo 39,
The tool, purpose,
is to know,
when,
and,
where,
the termite bite!

When, is the frequency of bite..

Where, is places most bite happen...


Thus in roulette,
Whether the wheel, balanced or bias,

either way, the casino doomed...
===========================
if the wheel balanced,
then every part will hit, almost equally...
then you know how to bet...
and,
if the wheel biased.....

3Nine

Seeing When, can only occur in the past.

How you limit the frequency of the miss, is perhaps the better question?

Mike

I'm sorry, neither sticks nor chimps can help because spins are independent. As Al Gore once said, it's "an inconvenient truth".

@ Gizmo,

My advice is to not bother wasting your time trying to code a winning  algorithm. The results will be as expectation predicts. Guaranteed. Just be happy that you've found something that seems to be working for you so far.

You're never going to prove the "math nazis" wrong. That's the thing about math; once proved, a theorem can't be "unproved".


3Nine

Quote from: Mike on August 06, 2016, 03:22:42 PM

You're never going to prove the "math nazis" wrong. That's the thing about math; once proved, a theorem can't be "unproved".

Never say never. 

Kimo Li

Quote from: 3Nine on August 06, 2016, 03:02:04 PM
Seeing When, can only occur in the past.

How you limit the frequency of the miss, is perhaps the better question?

JG...by having a daily stop win and a set stop loss. Action is a killer. Discipline perpetuates survival.

If you sit there, trying to extract termites from a hole and you find that the "numbers" are not consistent, but continue to try without success, a lion will see that and the law of the jungle will prevail. Same results at a water hole, danger is always lurking. Proceed with caution, have your fill, and move on. If you sit there long enough, you will succumb to the law of the jungle. So what, you had to run away abruptly because a lion showed up. Get your fill later, perhaps the next day.
"Keep it in check," The Random Roulette Spin, Kimo Li

3Nine

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 06, 2016, 04:38:17 PM
JG...by having a daily stop win and a set stop loss. Action is a killer. Discipline perpetuates survival.

That wasn't a question for me, as that advice is no longer necessary.  Thanks for the reminder though.  Nice to see you teaching again, KL. 



Kimo Li

"Keep it in check," The Random Roulette Spin, Kimo Li

3Nine


Kimo Li

"Keep it in check," The Random Roulette Spin, Kimo Li

3Nine

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 06, 2016, 05:38:02 PM
You figured it out.

Figured what out?   No.  It's my love for the quads... 3, 9, 15, etc.