BetSelection.cc

After a long time, I tried a no deposit bonus of $20 in classycoin casino. It has a wagering condition of $800 from $20 and the max withdrawal allowed is $100. Only slots were allowed to be played.
            I cleared this huge hurdle and won max possible free money i.e. $100.
See screenshot:


I have won such bonuses a few dozens times earlier too:
http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=347.0 (http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=347.0)

 :thumbsup: Congrats on the win dear Sumit.


No-deposit bonuses are quite a thing to earn. They are supposed to be the hardest! It's literally beating the casino with their own money, so for a player that's a double sweet win.


:applause:

Bravo!

They had many formalities before paying. Send two utility bills and a govt. ID, send a signed faxback form (all scanned). I did all that. They asked me to deposit $21 from neteller. I have verified neteller but in my country, there is no way to deposit with them now. I somehow managed that too and made a deposit. Now, today, I instructed the withdrawal of $121. They say, they may need upto 10 working days to process this.

I got $200 in accasino.com as no deposit bonus today i.e. on 7th of August. It had an almost impossible wagering condition, 100x wagering of bonus only upon their selected slots which they have kept separately for bonus players.
I did complete wagering within half an hour rushing balance above $1000 at the time of finish.
                     Now, I have $100 as real money as a reward of clearing such mammoth task.
See screenshots:

Very well done Albalaha. [smiley]aim/naturewink.gif[/smiley]

Congrats Sumit. May be you can also share how you are doing it, so that others can learn from it.

This is my 25th win of no deposit bonuses. Most of them have been documented in rouletteforum.cc, a few in my blog in some other forums and here too. I always try to do things which masses consider impossible like winning so many No deposit bonuses or beating more than 10 million spins.

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 11:08:31 AM
This is my 25th win of no deposit bonuses. Most of them have been documented in rouletteforum.cc, a few in my blog in some other forums and here too. I always try to do things which masses consider impossible like winning so many No deposit bonuses or beating more than 10 million spins.

Sumit,


As I was reading through the documented post in rouletteforum.cc a question came upto my mind.


I have very high respect for you so please don't take my question in the negative sense.  What is your intention behind posting this information?


1.  Sharing the happy news with fellow community friends - ofc, as a member of the mass as you put it, am very happy that someone is able to beat 10mn spins consistently and am amazed that you have got so many bonuses. Very happy and will be happy to see more posts.


2. Passing on the hope and lesson to the community that one can consistently overcome house edge even in slots which is documented to swallow. - well, that brings hopes and anything like that will renergize the day and bring in happy perspectives. Look forward for more such news.


3. Sharing your experience and make us learn from it - if this was the intention, then I think we need more details on how you do it so that we can learn from it. Something likr the videos that you posted sometime back. I learnt from it and I would love to hear more.


4. Boasting that I can do what you masses can't do and am a superior person that you all here - well not very constructive and I can only speak for myself, the best I can do is consider those posts as wastage of server memory and move on.


Ofcourse you don't have to answer it, but am assuming its either 1 or 2 and indeed very happy for you and you bring hopes with every such post. 


Love
Yanks

Priyanka,
            You are new to this so-called "community" and might not be aware of the history of communities being sold and efforts being dumped for personal gains.
Everybody wants to get a taste of success but nobody is coming forward to help, whenever I needed, you being not an exception.
The admin of this "community" is openly seeking help to run the forum, how many are coming forward?
                       I raised 2-3 topics here which could have helped us all but members prefer to have more of chit-chats than helping each other become better players.
I know that if I start to talk of real issues, people will turn their faces from them.
See the fate of "my open challenge", people are reluctant to take challenges and they rather deny that they can face tough sessions.
        "Isn't every other forum is merely bunch of frustrated gamblers"?

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
"Isn't every other forum is merely bunch of frustrated gamblers"?

Hmm! Interesting thought process there. I personally know a few on this forum in my short association and I don't think they are a frustrated bunch. But I don't think I am experienced and know the intricacies of this, so I will leave this for others who have been associated long here to ponder upon.

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
See the fate of "my open challenge", people are reluctant to take challenges and they rather deny that they can face tough sessions.

Sumit, I did go through your open challenge thread. In fact, I had to, because it was running over pages. I don't think people denied taking challenges. I could see there were many attempts to crack it. This reminds me of an important rule behind "brainstorming". While you are in a brainstorming session, it is a crime to make judgements. I understand it's a challenge. But I also understand that a very renowned researcher like you would post it as a challenge because it is a tough and really tough one to crack. I can see that people tried taking up the challenge one after other and failed. And it died out of interest because the topic got too judgemental rather than a joint brainstorming session to crack it. Well, that is at least my opinion. I for one would love more such challenges!

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
but nobody is coming forward to help, whenever I needed, you being not an exception

Did I ever rejected helping anyone? Let me know if you came across such an instance and I shall correct myself. God made man to make mistakes. I believe in not being perfect, but in learning from my mistakes.

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
I know that if I start to talk of real issues, people will turn their faces from them

Sumit, may be again am new here. But I have seen good discussions on a number of topics that you have started. Law of large numbers is the most recent one that I have read through. Good discussion and you closed the debate successfully as well. Ofc, every post might not be read with the same interest as that is the way of life. But people turning away faces from them is a very harsh comment. I have read a lot of important posts and issues here and I learn from those discussions.

Finally, I think you chose not to answer my question directly, which is perfectly fine. But thanks for the response and I look forward to read more from you.

Priyanka,
          The most bitter truth about forums is non-cooperation among its members. Everybody is waiting to get a ready to use holy grail and only lurking at others. There is not even a single joint effort to solve any real issue PERTAINING TO GAMBLING together.
                         Nobody talks of "Hows" and "Whys".

I guess we will have always 2 kind of forum users, the ones take only take... and the once how give and take. I hope im in the second group.
But most problems in the word could be solved in 1/10 of the time if all researchers would combine there knowledge and share it. There are so many patented solution that are not used, because they just miss like a few tweaks to solve the real problem. And many are looking for solution, but are blocked by patents.


that's why I'm sure. if put all our heads together, we can get some strategies that can have an edge for the player...


Some people come up with some new ideas system and are shot...before even tested....  would be better to take a look and apply 1 rule... the difference to a failing and a possible winning system is not a change bigger as 10%, so 1 small tweak can make difference to straight cliff down or positive with some drops...


What I try to demonstrate here
http://youtu.be/pmE7lMyd7bM (http://youtu.be/pmE7lMyd7bM)


So mayeb time for a roulette mastermind group [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]

The moment you think of why and how your system survive in good, bad and worst times, you have a playable system ready.
Problem is people love to live with their own set of fallacies than thinking rationally and logically.
         
                   Anyways, all these talks make a topic go astray.

I have gotten major help from many of the people on the forums, met and played with quite a few of them.....
Al just likes us to applaud for his self designated genius.  I think he gets off on it in some kind of way?
Who knows?

QuoteAl just likes us to applaud for his self designated genius.

It again confirms my belief in my saying, "every forum is merely a bunch of frustrated gamblers".
Members here likes to play hide and seek blindfolding each other. [smiley]cps/noway.gif[/smiley]

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 09:34:13 AM
I got $200 in accasino.com as no deposit bonus today i.e. on 7th of August. It had an almost impossible wagering condition, 100x wagering of bonus only upon their selected slots which they have kept separately for bonus players.
I did complete wagering within half an hour rushing balance above $1000 at the time of finish.
                     Now, I have $100 as real money as a reward of clearing such mammoth task.
See screenshots:

Congratulations on the win.  When I was winning there (Accasino) I got a bonus abuse warning ($400 in winnings).  The last time I was allowed to play there I turned a $10 bonus into $40 they immediately closed my account.

Got my 26th Victory. I was given $10 no deposit bonus in classycoin casino with a condition to wager it 40 times i.e.  wagering $400 only on slots. I did this mammoth job and now I have $119 as withdrawable cash.
               Funny thing is, I have won a $100 from this casino earlier too as no deposit bonus.
[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]

Who said there isn't a Grail on slots?  :applause:  Great job!

Won the 27th attack too. I got GBP5 no deposit bonus of www.castlecasino.com (http://www.castlecasino.com) with 38x wagering requirements i.e. I need to wager GBP190 from GBP5 and max withdrawal allowed was of GBP50. I did my wagering and rushed my balance to GBP60. Gonna get GBP withdrawal soon.
Chat:

Your chat transcript
/t]Alex RobinsonHello sumiteshwar choudhary. How may I help you?
sumiteshwar choudharyWe're not the same department.
sumiteshwar choudhary ok. but you let me know earlier that a wagering of GBP 12 was left till then
Alex RobinsonAlex RobinsonAlex Robinson

Quote from: Albalaha on August 07, 2013, 01:57:51 PM
          The most bitter truth about forums is non-cooperation among its members. Everybody is waiting to get a ready to use holy grail and only lurking at others. There is not even a single joint effort to solve any real issue PERTAINING TO GAMBLING together.
                         Nobody talks of "Hows" and "Whys".

Al,

  Well, at least not on the roulette forums that we frequent.  The question then becomes "what are we all trying to solve anyway?"   Do you really expect to "solve" roulette on an internet social forum? 

  The way probems are solved is to identify the problem in the first place and no one has done that yet.  About all one gets in any of the forums is idea after idea thrown up on the boards in some sort of effort to get something to stick, the problem being none of it is truely original.   One can only solve the riddle of column play so many FINITE ways, correct?

  There are forums where people do interact, play, solve problems and answer questions.   They are generally labeled, incorrectly, as paid forums.   It's just that you're evidently not a part of any of them.

   As you've seen at your own forum, people are lazy and if nothing shows up after a few days they will leave the forum in search of the next Grail.   We are lucky here that there are dedicated people who appear to take a genuine interest in roulette and all manners of the game.   Nobody is boasting about how much they are taking from the casinos, but I'm sure there are several who do so in a quiet and reasonably dignified manner.

   So, what roulette problems should we all jump in on and "solve" for your edification?

   By the way, congratulations on pulling another bonus win from the casinos.  You're probably the only person I can recall who does this on any type of regular basis.

  AD

Won my 28th NDB today from Betvillafortuna.com
I was given a no deposit bonus of $20 only and asked to wager it 45 times i.e. a wagering of $900 from only $20 that too playing only slots.
[smiley]aes/beer.png[/smiley]


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Just Paint

seems like a lot of work to do for a twenty--but what can one say? If albahala likes them let him go for them

I turned a free no wager bonus of £20 into £48 last month. I've been plucking up courage to tell you all and felt now was a good time. Took me 4 minutes.


was William Hill.....which was nice


Happy days !

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on August 29, 2013, 07:10:48 AM
WOW!

So what is this, paint shop pro, photo shop, or Corel?

It is black paint on the faces of guys who have done nothing in their life worth showing or only can speak and write page long worthless and useless ideas.

Can you explain to a normal person what you said about the black eye etc stuff?

And what have you done?

[mod] Take care folks. I can see exactly where this is heading... Step over the mark and there will be a consequence. Albalaha -- I suggest you IGNORE the transparent attempts to bait you. [/mod] 

Max,
     I try to contribute my best and my achievements (28 no deposit bonus wins on such difficult conditions one can only dream of) seem to frustrate many. I stopped writing roulette ideas only because of this bad tendency of poking nose by many guys.
             Max, please warn others on speaking hard on me, which I will never tolerate. I am neither used to nor do I need to. If I reciprocate on that you need to first warn the speaker who is provoking me to answer him in my self-defense. I am not an aggressor in that case and can not be kept in equal footing with the offender/aggressor.
               If this kindergarten tendency from various forum members does not change, I will prefer to write my sports picks and all exclusive contents on my blog than here.

Al -- my warning to others was implied in my careful choice of words.

Like I say -- just ignore attempts to provoke you.

I've advised you to do that several times before !!

If they don't get you to rise to the bait they will soon lose interest.


Nota Bene:  If the tit-for-tat posts do not cease then the thread will be locked.

Skakus....its not.


Not everyone is going through a productive phase and needs help to change that situation....like Astrix asked.


Im sure astrix will of felt better from the help. One thing he wouldn't want is a story about how well someone is doing...full stop.


I agree with you. I think a "heres what I made" story should be backed up with "and heres how I did it" justification or ...as you say...its just bragging. worse than that, its trying to make people think you are great. it works in Junior school i think, but not in adult company.


It just causes resentment.

Hey Al, could you at least give us some
references to help improve our odds on slots?

MBB,
       How do I know whether the chips shown are yours or of someone else? A buy-in or winning?
I have documented all my claims with proofs and dare to prove whatever I claim. I have compiled my No deposit wins mostly playing slots to prove that even slots can be won with determination and not merely in fluke. 28 NDB wins on slots doing as much as 100x wagering can take your lifetime. If you don't believe me just do three in a year and put proofs. I have done 4 of them within last 20 days only.
                                Now question regarding how useful they are. They are proofs of defeat of randomness for non-believers. Do you feel what you write daily here or any other forum help anyone becoming rich? You are only serving your innovative fallacies for all to "Lose more and win less", for sure.
          Don't believe this? Simulate any of your idea on long term and see the real face of your so called daily written "systems". You won't dare to suggest another after seeing fate of one.

Won my 29th No Deposit Win of Euro 100 from Grand Fortune Casino. I got E60 and I was asked to wager it 30 times i.e. E1800 on slots and some non-table games. I did it within a day.
Have a look:
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Hello Sumiteshwar

As per the chat conversation, please find transcript below:

albalaha: hi
Kiera: Thank You for contacting Grand Fortune Live Help. 
Kiera: How ccan I help you?
albalaha: I have just cleared your NDB wagring
Kiera: alright
albalaha: how can I withdraw that?
Kiera: You will have to make a minimum deposit of 21 if you have never deposited before
albalaha: ok. anything else?
Kiera: You will need to send us Proof of Residence,
Kiera: Identity Document,
Kiera: Confirmation of Banking Details,
Kiera: Front and back copies of credit card if any deposits are made via credit card – first four and last four digits have to be visible, CVC number can be hidden on support@grandfortunecasino.com
Kiera:
Kiera: and also fill in the AUTHORIZATION agreement
albalaha: I don't use credit card only MB
Kiera: what is MB?
albalaha: moneybookers/skrill
Kiera: yes so you jsut sent ID, and UTILITY bill
albalaha: ok
Kiera: Is there anything else can I help you with?
albalaha: passport and telephone bill will do?
Kiera: yes it will
albalaha: to support@
Kiera: on support@grandfortunecasino.com
albalaha: ok. how long does it take to withdraw via skrill?
Kiera: As soon as we receive the verification document, the process should take 5 to 10 business days
albalaha: ok
Kiera: Thank you for contacting support :-)
Kiera: And congratulation on your winning :-)



albalaha: have a nice day?
Kiera: Thank you and same to you :-)
albalaha: thanks a lot
Kiera: You are welcome :-)
albalaha: can u send me the chat in my email?
albalaha: earnsumit@gmail.com
Kiera: yes I will do it right away
Kiera: thank you
albalaha: thanks

Al,

  Congratulations.  Nicely played.

  AD

Good for ya, but...

If you win so successfully why bother with those small amounts of 100 dollars at all? Wagering requirements etc. If you have success with roulette you gotta have much more than 100 bucks to wager and no need to bother with wagering requirements.

I fight randomness and try to beat all forms of it. Be it roulette or baccarat or slots. This E100, I won within 2 hours max.
        I beat roulette with my method but that is a slow earner(since I do not bet every spin but at triggers).

that's cool, Marshall!


(re:- http://betselection.cc/online-casinos/won-another-no-deposit-bonus/msg19582/#msg19582 )

[mod] we don't need to have the same picture twice Iggiv, just a link will do. Cheers Chrisbis[/mod]

I find both games--roulette and baccarat --EZ to beat--go get them!!!!!!!!!~

Won my 30th No Deposit Bonus today:
winnerclub casino offered an Euro 30 no deposit bonus. If you play slot you need to bet the bonus 50 times, i.e. a wagering of E1500, while if u play roulette, it will be counted by 1/4 of what u bet actually. Hence, one need to actually bet Euro 6000, if he plays roulette alone. I used roulette to enhance my bankroll and played slots from winnings. Finally, I did complete this impossible looking task in a single day.

See screenshot of chat confirming this win:
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wow! 30 times the feat! (take that casinos! :applause: )

Congrats :thumbsup:

A part of me is thinking why people isn't rushing to a profit-sharing venture with you. It's a no-investment proposition where the only financial outcome is a win.

To get maximization of interest, you could also do it in groups, where people "pool" their accounts and winners split parting 3-ways. One share for you, one share for the group and of course one share for the account holder.

i.e. If a group of 5 people "pool", when one no-deposit bonus is fulfilled, all win. Covering for even showing the willingness.

Feel free to organize such a thing in our pages.

(nothing better than word-of-mouth from winners to motivate more folks! --hey it's no deposit => free for the taking :nod: :cheer: )

Vic,
         I proved it again and again that basic maths of gambling is a failure. Ask anyone to calculate the probability of winning such wagerings and further ask the probability of a single man winning such bonuses 30 times. The probability will reach 1 in billions but I am not that big. I am just logical.

Quote from: VLS on April 12, 2014, 11:14:05 PMFeel free to organize such a thing in our pages.

Didn't it appeal to you?

@ Vic and Max,

Quotei.e. If a group of 5 people "pool", when one no-deposit bonus is fulfilled, all win. Covering for even showing the willingness. Feel free to organize such a thing in our pages.

            At times, it takes lots of pain. Yesterday, I played about 14 hours to finish this. Rival powered casinos have already put me in their "black book" for winning repeatedly from many of casinos powered by their software. I have beaten all, playtech, microgaming, top, VIG live games, Rival and many more. More than winning free money, it was about beating it with such challenges, again and again on various type of RNGs.
               Doing it in routine, or for masses won't be easy due to IP and many other issues.

Well done Albalaha. Clearly you have tenacity, and I admire your efforts and consistency in this venture. Only once did I manage to do this with Bet365 and I consider it yet another casino trap, as is delay in allowing withdrawal of profits sometimes. There are protocols and procedures now I have in place to minimise such exposure but the casinos have trap doors everywhere, and all have unique variants.


One does ask the question, 'how do you value your time?' This is meant to be rhetorical. Nothing personal but you have made me question my own issues, so thanks.


There are easier and 'smarter' ways to make money, and to beat the casinos, and I am sure we all will contribute to this worthy goal in coming weeks on good old BetSelection.cc.


I will be starting a new thread soon based on Smart Play and this will not only be roulette, but machines, racing, and investment work, especially the Active and Passive Investment topics.


Time is precious, and lets move forward, quickly!
Best
R.

XXVV,
             It is only about a passion to do which is considered impossible. Why do people climb Mount Everest? They may land there in a few minutes with an airplane too. For you, it may look like wasting time (14 hrs) to earn E200 merely but for me, it is about becoming 1 in a billion or rather only one person who could ever do this.

31st No Deposit Bonus Win:
Guys, I did it again. jollyseven.com is a new casino which offers a no deposit bonus giving E17 and ask to wager it 30 times, i,e, E510.
You can play slots only and you can win E50 or E100, depending upon your country. I did it in a few hours.
See screenshot:(I took this screenshot when only E4.45 left to wager more out of E510)
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Very good.  :thumbsup:

Do you do this full-time, or do you have another job as well?

I am an attorney, by profession but use all my spare time and weekends in gaming and researches.

32nd No Deposit Bonus Win:

It was slotser.com. I got certain 1 cent free spins on a slot, that generated E12.89 . With this small amount I had to make a playthrough of E 1547, that too, it is purely slot casino having only 7-8 slot games to play. I laughed at it, as it looked too much to me. Toughest condition ever. I played very calmly and rushed my balance over E100 first, wagering E500+ first.
                             Then I got some hope of winning and took this screenshot for records:
[attachimg=1]

Finally, I could clear this titanic job and I have E252 to withdraw.  :nod:

             Hope to get it without any trouble since this casino is new for me.
[attachimg=1]

Very good!  :thumbsup:

A lot of 'work', though.

How long did it take you altogether from start to payout?

3-4 hours.

Nicely done.

Clearly you are the resident "Bonus Expert" in the family!!

AD

Thanks Captain.
               I  feel myself a "randomness expert" too but people feel it isn't possible.  Playing with randomness is not like plying with fire, it is only like playing a piano.

Congratulations Albalaha, nice work !

Do you still play your FMODR or something else ?

FMoDR was the finest way for me about 4 years back. Now I have concepts that can beat randomness in its worst form.

What a pleasure to see this. Well done . Bonuses are a booby trap. How nice to see that there are users who are out of the pile and manage to overcome them. Please keep sharing these triumphs which are the triumph of all players as a group. Congratulations.

Thanks for all the support and good words.
                   With persistence, one can move even mountains. My posts depicting win over worst number of Zumma american book, 10 millions spins beaten by Ophis bot and all books of zumma of roulette and baccarat beaten are only meant to prove that hey, there are still ways to do that. My countless wins over no deposit bonuses playing mostly slots are, I think, kind of unthinkable by a common player. When I posted my sports picks, you can see the success ratio yourself.
                      Many  people feel it like teasing but it could be an inspiration too. Whenever someone says you that hey casinos are destined to win, show him my feats. To achieve all this, thousands of excel sheets and dozens of trackers/bots were used. i have given myself to do full time researches on gambling and then I am capable of doing something that is considered impossible.
                      Forget martingale, fibonacci, Labouchere, D'alembert and all other ideas that were created centuries ago and they were nothing more than bad jokes for casino gaming. You won't get the secret formula anywhere, you have to own it. Analyse the game deeply, understand the basics, test your ideas and maybe you get tenfold successful than me.

"Analyse the game deeply, understand the basics, test your ideas and maybe you get tenfold successful than me."


And let that be The Quote For The Week. 

pretty good effort...I always seem to get nailed on the no deposit bonuses, need to up my patience game! :stress: I found a cool site to track which no deposit bonuses I've already taken, only downside is there's not enough of them on there but still worth checking out its called www.thecasinodb.com (http://www.thecasinodb.com)