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Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2019, 03:52:51 am »
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  • May you please show us....the FTL  baccarat with only 30hit/100hands.

    thanks.

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #16 on: August 31, 2019, 01:45:15 pm »
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  • Thank you so much
    it very helpful for researching progression.

    Do you have worst single dozen in 100spins?
    If worst dz/100 never less than 15...then we could build a near hg  delay-progression around it.
    Thanks in advance
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #17 on: September 01, 2019, 02:53:04 am »
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    If worst dz/100 never less than 15...then we could build a near hg  delay-progression around it.

    and how will you do that?
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #18 on: September 01, 2019, 05:47:49 am »
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  • Do you have worst single dozen in 100spins?


    I scanned through Zumma American roulette and found 19/100 case of dozen1 as the worst in that. Although 15,000 spins are not big enough. See:

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #19 on: September 01, 2019, 07:30:15 am »
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  • Thanks for your 19dz/100.
    Appreciate them.

    very interesting question....
    oversimplified example...

    ..firstly..just....forget br and table limit...

    your posting say...
    single number virtual limit=555spins...suicidal...to bet.

    say..after 300spins no hit..your virtual..logic say may certainly hit anywhere.. in next 255spins...may start..* planning to bet ***with 1u profit...target..

    if really hit before 556th spins
    you win more than 1

    mind you..just oversimplified example...you get the idea now...
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #20 on: September 01, 2019, 08:13:01 am »
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  • chasing something for winning just 1 unit risking thousands is not wise. Waiting for a number to not hit for 300 spins could take 100 of thousands of spins. Secondly, to target 1 unit win betting upto 255 spins from a single number will need thousands of chips. Are you ready to undertake such chances? Do not forget our assumed virtual limits are hard to reach and not impossible.
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #21 on: September 01, 2019, 08:58:32 am »
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  • 100% surely winning ONLY ONE CHIP...per season itself ..already an incredible hg feat.

    that only oversimplified for single number...so you get the ideas...you win more than 1u...

    Winning only 1chip/season better than any thing else
    IF you and me could win 1chip per day. We could happily retire and sail the seven seas...
    Please post your suggestions, ideas, or any question, all are welcome...

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #22 on: September 12, 2019, 09:28:50 am »
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  • One of the worst run of Player bet from Virtuoid 100,000 shoes of baccarat only in earliest 20k hands:
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #23 on: September 13, 2019, 06:34:04 am »
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  • Worst of virtuoid first 51,000 hands(ties removed) for Player bet

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #24 on: September 13, 2019, 02:33:18 pm »
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  • since both are less than 33.34% hit...

    .then labby can't close. and the staking will snowballing to unbearable high.

    with possibility of hit lower than 33.34...
    no wonder
    labby being labeled as a failure.
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #25 on: September 13, 2019, 02:40:23 pm »
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  • Labby may not win within first 100 spins but could get at net profit still before 200th spins. Chips required could be 2000 units, at max with a 0,1 labby. The harshest being controlled under so many chips isn't bad.
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #26 on: September 13, 2019, 10:50:42 pm »
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  • Sir,
    how about single dozen.
    What the worst dz in 100spins.
    Thanks




    Please post your suggestions, ideas, or any question, all are welcome...

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #27 on: September 14, 2019, 06:17:11 pm »
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  • Hi Albalaha
    So it follows that if spins are independent, we are waiting for bad series and then from the beginning of this series we count as our window of beting when the bad series is over by one win we use Labby and say big bankroll 5000 units.
    Do you think that something like that can survive against roulette RNG?

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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #28 on: September 16, 2019, 11:54:37 am »
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  • @Ozon,
                You are right. This is being discussed in another topic. If RNG is a manipulated one, anything is possible.
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    Re: Worst of zumma 1600 for player bet
    « Reply #29 on: September 21, 2019, 01:57:14 pm »
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  • Got one worst of worst data with 109 losses and only 68 wins in EC. Kind of extreme but yet beatable:
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