Hindsight Haphazard Player Vs. A Skilled Baccarat Player

It is more complicated than you think.  But sit back read through my thoughts and read it over again.  I think the people that are on their ways to become great players will benefit and the others, will challenge, deny and crumble as they always do after attempting any self-improvement or gaining of another's 'been there and done that' type of knowledge.

Hindsight, 'Getting 2 in a row' correct or scoring a win on the 'cut' after that 3rd repeating banker, because the shoe will always produce more threes than fours and more fours than fives and more five repeats than streaks of 10 or more.  Yes, and you are correct, but no—you are also wrong.  Read on, please.

So many factors come into play which are not generally believed to do so by the highest majority of the players today.  The game has changed so much from pre-2000 to post-2000.  Probably due to the internet explosion, the exchange and belief in ideas, both on the player's side as well as the casino's side.  Don't discount the inceptions of so many things to old school baccarat such as EZ Baccarat and other items meant to speed up the slowness of the game as well as the profitability for the casino's side.  And, IMO they accomplished it beyond a reasonable doubt.  With things that the players have no say so over and still contending with the game, the factors the players need to consider are things like, 'point values' of hands won and lost when there is a clear and clutter of numerous hands together, 'formations' of winning and losing hands, 'low amount of ties' at a certain point of the shoe, how each side increases or reduces with its third card when drawn.  There are so many other factors which assists the skilled player in the 'getting ready' and 'pouncing on it' whatever formation that is emerging or about to emerge from the shoe.  And that is the basic definition I have been able to quantify for the difference between the common 'Hindsight Haphazard Player' and their counterpart, the 'Skilled Player'.

Some players are spot-on with their reasoning—gut feelings—shoe interpretations and perceptions.  However, and I do believe—there is a distinct difference in the Haphazard Hindsight Player and the Skilled Player.  The Hindsight Haphazard Player is where the highest majority of all baccarat players are these days.  This is the player belief and aura where so many get sucked in and remain both, aggravated and frustrated at the table.

To understand the picture I am attempting to paint, you have to understand that there are clearly two agendas happening during all games, if not continually throughout the shoe then sporadically on and off, adding to the confusion of the players.  The first agenda is the 'psych, beliefs and dependency on other players or against other players'.  As well, the way the player abides by money management, buy in beliefs, progressions, parlays and the many other wagering techniques and strategies.  The second agenda is the shoe and its presentment of what it will and how it will produce each hand, the sections, the tuning points and the formations that it will happen.  Those two agendas will be combined and have to be addressed by the players.  The Hindsight Haphazard Player basically pays attention to little and has huge beliefs that carry over from shoe to shoe and month to month, in his play.  That player's aura and style is a continual resemblance of himself rarely ever changing.  The Skilled Player will possess a solid understanding and knowledge of both agendas and practice whatever he feels is best from each, while coming at each shoe he plays from all directions, rather than the one direction the Hindsight Haphazard Player usually subscribes to.  The Skilled Player will also see the gloom and destruction that is always looming in the background, usually termed 'casino house advantage' or 'variations'—and stop his session being 100% thrilled with his win or chalking up any spent money without the chance of getting it back that session or trip.  However, the Skilled Player and the Hindsight Haphazard Player also has a very distinct outlook in each of their plays.  The Skilled Player views each and every session as a brand new, no historical win or loss plateau with the ability to reset each and every shoe, which allows the player to literally and physically maintain a perfectly clear mind and opinion status.  The Hindsight Haphazard Player is constantly comparing every shoe to countless previous ones as well as all of his losses and wins and is extremely judgmental, usually basing most every decision and confrontment he faces when playing, on all historical results that cloud, confuse and offer further fallacy to his decision making process.

The pending formations rewrite themselves repeatedly at times and other times do not.  Does that mean—that the reasoning those same formations prevailed the previous shoe or session were 'wrong'--that depends.  But so many love to say the words, "You say that, after you see it", adding confusion and doubt that Skilled Players actually can catch far more and profit superior to that of the Hindsight Haphazard Player in each ones gambling attempts at baccarat.

The whole key to it all—and here is where the really in-depth, intelligent, creative, factual and experienced Skilled Player will generally excel.  But, there is one huge additional factor that will weigh in and lead whatever player to success or greater success with playing baccarat.  That is, the player's 'frame-of-mind'.  Each of ours is different.  If you think you can go to the baccarat table with 'XYZ-$' and wager 'such and such' a few times, get a substantial reward consistently—you cannot.  And if you do, your frame-of-mind will not allow you to leave a winner.  I have definitively explained this and offered solutions to those that do win, but little to none responded, commented or expanded on the discussion and offerings. It is fine, they will learn the hard way after they finally get their system refined with the super-secret bet-selection that will never ever fail, shoe after shore, session after session.  I can only assume.

But hey—let me offer a system with a 75% or even a 80% reward for placing your wager, say on the losing side after two winnings repeats, if that was succeeded by a single-chop cut, then we get huge response, interest and input with something like 30 replies and a thousand plus view in one or two days.  Typical responses along the lines of "I have to try that", to "It will work but here is my input on it to make it better" and let's not forget, "OMG! Gold! Possibly the real deal!!!", etc.  Who are these people, where is their proof, where is the certified and audited results that they are promising, packaging and selling?  There is much more required on any player's part than merely reading a $9.99 book or purchasing a $99.99 or a $1,500.00 system.  All those and more, are geared towards the greedy, the selfish and of course the know everything player looking for that quick score.  In other words, many of the 'Hindsight Haphazard Players' will also have been victim or believer in those as well.  Sorry if you fall into the aforesaid couple of sentences, but what I said, is just about 'spot-on' and I have no doubt about that.  Okay, live and learn.

Baccarat, playing successful baccarat takes work.  It takes extended trials and errors to be learned and ingrained in yourself.  It takes a few years to even become acquainted with the better half of what can happen and what may not happen in each shoe.  I said acquainted, but unfortunately not knowing everything with definitive knowledge.  It will also take years of winning and losing sums of money to "Get your head straight", and be able to rationalize what is possible and the reality of all systems and those super-secret methods that the sellers offer sales techniques that are fairy tales and definitive fallacy, hoping the unsuspecting buyers will not question, just pay money to have the 'elite and special limited chance' to become rich playing baccarat.     

So many players look to a system—what cards produced won and why.  Then they deduce down their own answers with each new holy-grail or proven "Set of best triggers", etc.  And they are still missing the bulk of what can really help them.  The part that the harder work comes into the picture is along with the following.  The player's psych, the player's guaranteed hold on wins and how to construct one, understanding the reasoning with conscious thought throughout all aspects of playing.  There are additional ones as well, the relevancy of happening, the 3 or 4 sections and turning points in each shoe, following and not following other players, and so much more.

The problem is baccarat is easy.  Baccarat is picked up by the average person who was either dragged into the game by another or he overheard/read about how all the other people are winning so much easy money playing it.  That is it and then it starts.  He winds up at Bet-Selection or another internet message board and learns all kinds of stuff, the wrong stuff in many cases.  He is intelligent overall, it is just the game of baccarat over rode his common-sense and he fell suspect to easy money and quick riches.  In other words, he got sucked in and convinced by a group of unscrupulous failed gamblers turned con-men.  The real sad part is for the average person starting baccarat and risking his money—he knows more about every other thing he every tackled.  Such as golf, fitness, health, mountain biking, sporting teams and entire sporting leagues of historical scores.  And yet he sits at the baccarat table, explaining the game and its inner secrets and innuendoes to another person, while he drinks alcohol, chain smoking and blowing his snot form his nose on the floor—barely missing the shoes of the person so thrilled with what he is hearing.  EZ money, quick riches, quit the full time job and gamble, all the fallacies running in the player's head each and every session.  In fact, evidentially he will learn more about baccarat from every aspect and angle while he is attempting and trying numerous systems in his hopes to get paid back for all the money he has lost.

And this is the same person—the same player that is now going to show all the rest of us about his baccarat knowledge and skill level.  The typical player that will rationalize it all out while he states how and why he placed the wager each time.  Then how quickly he defends his wrong decision with the all-purpose, "Well we can't all be right every time", or the other one---"I should have listened to you—what do you think now"?

It is a never ending cycle with the baccarat players of today.  Nothing easy comes to those with no time or effort to invest.  Not just in baccarat, but really with just about everything.   

The game has its presentments which comes and goes either one of two ways.  First, with pure unfollowable, off-the-wall, out of the blue, pattern and trends that you are best off to sit back and wait it out or stop playing.  Second, with clear and concise, or at least ones that are readable—emerging patterns and trends that will be strong and long, or weak with great consistency.  Those are the proven and the givens.  No statistical or testing results will offer you any more or less mathematical or scientific data as to when those patterns/trends come and leave with consistency.  There is no discovery or learning any set of rules that will allow you to realize anything in this game with consistency that will prevail in every shoe or session.  It is a combination of lots of things that will help and assist the player to be successful more than he is unsuccessful with baccarat.

Once you get serious and really desire to be a successful baccarat player, you will realize the game is not about approaching it from one direction, let's say that is from the 'North'.  The way more successful players approach it is from 8 different directions, 'North-Northeast-East-Southeast-South-Southwest-West and the Northwest'.  That is the difference between wagering on the side that lost after two repeats which was succeeded by 'such-and-such' and the successful player that does not blow snot on the floor, chain smoking into other player's faces while explaining almost every wager and why it won or why it lost.

My only question is this.  How come that player wagered on the losing side with his detailed knowledge with the definitive reasoning already known, as to why his wager lost?

Gizmo,

I wrote this back just about 1 year ago.

Grabbing the gold nuggets??  Read it, fits in with the math thing, no??

Quote from: alrelax on July 19, 2017, 12:21:50 PM

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And yet he sits at the baccarat table, explaining the game and its inner secrets and innuendos to another person, while he drinks alcohol, chain smoking and blowing his snot form his nose on the floor—barely missing the shoes of the person so thrilled with what he is hearing.  EZ money, quick riches, quit the full time job and gamble, all the fallacies running in the player's head each and every session.  In fact, evidentially he will learn more about baccarat from every aspect and angle while he is attempting and trying numerous systems in his hopes to get paid back for all the money he has lost. ...

My only question is this.  How come that player wagered on the losing side with his detailed knowledge with the definitive reasoning already known, as to why his wager lost?

That reminded me of a time a while back when this player that was waiting for the poker tournament to start walked up to a Roulette table where I was playing alone in the slot closest to the dealer, on the opposite side of the table where the pull-out-bar is located. He had some casino chips and just started asking me rhetorical questions. He was firing them at me like the BS cliché monologues that some people do when they try to play themselves off as when they deal the cards. I stopped placing chips on the inside as I was trying to get 24 numbers covered before the dealer waved off with "no more bets." I was alone so I reached out while the ball was still spinning and raked all my chips off the layout. I then turned to this waste of a human being and just flat out asked him, "What do you want to know? I mean really, what do you want to know?" The guy was flabbergasted. He said, "While I've never seen such a thing before." I said, "Well now you have."


I remember reading this thread more than a year ago. People can be real un-self-aware of themselves and obnoxious. The best thing to do is to rub it in when they lose. They won't get the message but it's fun the see that machinery go clanking around in their heads with that almost dear in the headlights look on their faces. My favorite of all time was the guy that quit his job because the number 32 was his new career. 32 was a hot number for two days of a three day weekend. He really called his boss and quit. Watching others play is almost as fun as winning. That third day killed him. He gave it all back and most of his life savings.

I had a PM and I was actually congratulated on this past article I wrote.  LOL.  But I decided to bump it.  It is funny with the comment by Jimske how this board is dead, correct.  But also how hundreds come on to read and I watch them and run IP addresses and LOL, funny who lots of them are, LOL!  But anyways, lots of guests and few post.  Again, LOL............................

Kind of stimulating.

Great topic Glen, I have to pat you on the back with the fantastic insight!!!!!