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Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2019, 02:52:16 pm »
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  • Still interested in these questions to help understand how to use turning points effectively. (I will type out some other responses I made notes on for you, possibly tonight)


    Also I am interested how many bets on average per shoe?  ( I have found I do better on 20-30 possibly 35/40 if things are going extremely well, at the most..  Not too often above that.   Best Sections I have caught or am able to take advantage of the opportunity presenting itself, probably 15 at best)
     
    Oh yeah, "comraderie"  how does that work?

    (I have written about it in the past, have to find where that was posted at.  But camaraderie to me, is when most or several others, if not the whole table is wagering together and we are hitting like a solid 3 or 5 out of 5.  Whereupon, you do know that many of the winning wagers you would not have even wagered on or you would have choose the opposite side or not seeing the event/pattern that other have.  Of course, say you are wagering $250.00 and others are wagering $500 or $700, whatever the numbers are.  Then they say, you have to match them, everyone the same, or anything of the likes.  We continue to win.  You know you would have grinded out 3 or 4 for say a considerable amount of bet or less than what you did. 

    Not that they held you hostage or anything or you got talked into a wager, you just went along and developed a team.  It happens and happens often.  Some of my largest wins were actually due to something like this, rather than being alone, over in the corner, figuring something out.  Maybe a better term is, Riding The Wave, with everyone giving support and positive energy?  I do not know, I just label it camaraderie.  No, grouping up cannot change an outcome, but it can allow you to catch great opportunities and wager more than you would if you have a concrete wall up around yourself, IMO and experiences.) 


    Many of us have called/labeled this, Overpowering The Shoe.

     
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #31 on: March 14, 2019, 03:02:32 pm »
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  • Turning Points a big issue.  (Yes, I do believe it is the biggest key component that can help define unknowns into something)[/b][/u]

    You mentioned somewhere that you don't guess and don't predict.  Okay, then at least there is an expectation to be successful more times than not.  Expectations have to have some measurability IMO. (IMO, I generally do not guess, as far as a heads or tails, sheer guess the majority of times anyway.  Sure, sometimes, but not the bulk of my wagers.  Expectations are always there, at times I fail to recognize them, but that has to do with playing and historical consciousness, which I also believe is a defensive somewhat to getting sucked in by everything that goes on at an active bac table.  I am sure there is measurability, but I have never kept permanent records of each and every shoe or each shoe that I won and lost with those statistics.) 

    This connotes calculable edge even if it's not as straight forward as putting some kind of count to the decisions.  I still call it guessing however.  (Very possibly does.  Always a form or can be labeled guessing, I could only assume, since it is not a science or an application that could be applied universally across the board, everywhere with everyone.  Unlike an auto oil change or how to change a tire, etc.)

    An example would be watching a choppy section of the shoe start to get a longer repeat or repeats with a dearth of 1's.  So say pBpBBpBp went BBB.  It could also be something like side dominance or the singles having side dominance.  (Unfortunately, there are the weak turning to strong or the weak getting weaker, or the strong getting stronger or other extreme variations of those events as well.  IMO, players limited themselves to a definitive change and no room within their thought/decision making process to allow themselves to quickly recover or dismiss their own thoughts/decisions that did not just prove correct.  It gets more complicated IMO, because when they are correct, their thoughts/decision process reinforces them and then it goes sideways.  I tried to explain all this, but it is difficult to put it all into words that many will read or want to read.  It is impossible for me to do that in 2 or 3 or 4 sentences.  There are far too many variables to most everything.  At least IMO. )

    So different turning points in different situations. (Yes, there are many and I have listed many of them that I was able to define from intangible to tangible.  Yet, most are dismissed as a random guess and something hiding within a shoe that almost everyone on the internet and with other forums choose to dismiss and call insane made up rubbish, etc.  But there rebuttals are always something along the lines that, you never what is going to come out before it does appear.  Of course, but after playing for a solid 30-35 years whatever, there are noticeable and prevailing events that appear and I have tried my best to explain those.)

    All based on the history which I insist is the bias.  (You can classify and label whatever anyone writes, finds, discovers, brings forward, etc., as a bias in most anything.  Bias's to one player are completely different in many aspects to another player.  IMO, it solely depends on those players experiences, what they have witnessed, what they have made profits from, what they interpret and how ell their own decisions have allowed them to win, etc.)


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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #32 on: March 18, 2019, 02:04:11 am »
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  • Within my BetSelection Email address.  (I have not checked for a couple of weeks and after signing on today, there was about 7 personal emails pending.  I have found that with all the drama, resentment and a few strong posters/members-now for the most part on other sites, they are emailing me rather than posting.  Here is one that I will post and then answer, I have deleted his name and Email address. 

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    Hi, Alrelax, I am -----------, went thru  your posts on Sections & turning pts found it interesting,informative & inspiring to become a better baccarat player by focus,study & observation, instead of going in for scamsters/system sellers,A few questions arose while going thru  your article 1) How do we identify a section 2) How we separate one section from another,( I think by turning point & how does a turning point look like, maybe a single event ? & how do we know a section has finished & turning point has arrived, & triggered another section, 3) In different sections what do we look for repeats, chops, I mean to say each section comprises of repeats, chops individually, or can it be a combo of both, 4) Suppose section A was,streaky can section, B be also streaky or it has to be choppy,Kindly reply, in simple words, Thanks & keep doing the good  job..............................-----------------------------------

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    I believe in this and other threads I have of a similar nature, all your questions I have addressed.  If you are looking for a mechanical schedule to follow to win every time or the highest majority of the times, it does not exist.  I have attempted to explain what I have found that helps me.

    But there will always be intangible things as well that play a factor to continue play and increase wagers or stop your play.

    https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/be-careful-what-you-believe-and-open-your-eyes-sections-turning-points-part-1/


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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #33 on: March 19, 2019, 01:36:32 pm »
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  • "You keep on harping on this ave bac player wants to change the shoe stuff.  I disagree.  We don't have any empirical knowledge of average bac player but my guess from experience is that ave player is betting on the past to continue or, as you pointed out many times, bet the run to stop (cut) precisely because of known averages."

    There will always be the WHAT IF, or the IT DID NOT DO IT, or the I SHOULD HAVE BET THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I THOUGHT, or one of other countless sayings when the wagered hand fails to prevail.  But, you we wager and we wager for reasons the majority of the times, admit it or not.
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
    FIRST SECTION

    B  Nat 9/Over Nat 8
    P  6 over 1
    B  2 over 0
    B  6 over 0
    T 7/7
    P  Nat 9 over 2
    P  7 over 5
    P  6 over 0
    B  8 over 6
    P  7 over 2
    P  7 over 6
    T 7/7
    P  4 over 1
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    SECOND SECTION

    B  Nat 9 over 7
    P  4 over 2
    P  Nat 9 over 2
    B  6 over 2
    P  Nat 8 over 4
    B  Nat 8 over 1
    B  7 over 0
    P  9 over 7
    P  5 over 5
    T 8/8
    B  6 over 0
    B  6 over 3
    P  7 over 4
    B  Nat 8 over 5
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    THIRD SECTION

    P  7 over 3
    T 6/6
    B  Nat 8 over 5
    B  9 over 2
    B  Nat 8 over 4
    B  3 over 2
    B  Nat 8 over 7
    B  7 over 5  (Fortune 7)
    B  4  over 3
    P  Nat 9 over 6
    P  Nat 8 over 7
    P  Nat 9 over 4
    B  9 over 6
    B  Nat 8 over 1
    B  Nat 8 over 2
    B  8 over 2
    B  9 over 4
    B  1 over 0
    P  Nat 8 over 1
    P  Nat 8 over 6
    P  Nat 9 over Nat 8
    T 7/7
    B  7 over 5
    T  0/0 (6-10 pip cards)
    B  Nat 9 over 7
    B  6 over 5
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    FOURTH SECTION


    P  6 over 4
    B  6 over 1
    P  7 over 4
    B  9 over 5
    B  3 over 1
    B  Nat 9 over 3
    P  7 over 3
    P Nat 9 over 3
    P 8 over 5  (Panda EIGHT)
    B  5 over 3
    P  8 over 7   (Panda EIGHT)
    P  4 over 0
    B  Nat 0 over 3
    B  5 over 1
    B  Nat 9 over 1
    P  7 over 4
    P  Nat 9 over 6
    B  Nat 8 over 6
    B  Nat 9 over 7
    B  7 over 5
    P  9 over 4
    B  7 over 4
    T 7/7
    T 8/8
    P  6 over 1
    P  9 over 6
    B  8 over 5
    B  0 over 1
    B  6 over 4
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________


    82 Hands
    Players = 32
    Banker = 42
    Ties = 8
    Pandas 8s = 2
    Fortune 7s = 1
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    (I will post decision notes and wagers later.  This was a shoe from actual play at a casino)
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #34 on: May 14, 2019, 06:27:02 am »
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  • A visual example of Sections within a shoe:

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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 06:31:47 am »
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  • Another example of Sections:

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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 12:46:02 pm »
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  • "You keep on harping on this ave bac player wants to change the shoe stuff.  I disagree.  We don't have any empirical knowledge of average bac player but my guess from experience is that ave player is betting on the past to continue or, as you pointed out many times, bet the run to stop (cut) precisely because of known averages."

    There will always be the WHAT IF, or the IT DID NOT DO IT, or the I SHOULD HAVE BET THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I THOUGHT, or one of other countless sayings when the wagered hand fails to prevail.  But, you we wager and we wager for reasons the majority of the times, admit it or not.
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
    FIRST SECTION

    B  Nat 9/Over Nat 8
    P  6 over 1
    B  2 over 0
    B  6 over 0
    T 7/7
    P  Nat 9 over 2
    P  7 over 5
    P  6 over 0
    B  8 over 6
    P  7 over 2
    P  7 over 6
    T 7/7
    P  4 over 1
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    SECOND SECTION

    B  Nat 9 over 7
    P  4 over 2
    P  Nat 9 over 2
    B  6 over 2
    P  Nat 8 over 4
    B  Nat 8 over 1
    B  7 over 0
    P  9 over 7
    P  5 over 5
    T 8/8
    B  6 over 0
    B  6 over 3
    P  7 over 4
    B  Nat 8 over 5
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    THIRD SECTION

    P  7 over 3
    T 6/6
    B  Nat 8 over 5
    B  9 over 2
    B  Nat 8 over 4
    B  3 over 2
    B  Nat 8 over 7
    B  7 over 5  (Fortune 7)
    B  4  over 3
    P  Nat 9 over 6
    P  Nat 8 over 7
    P  Nat 9 over 4
    B  9 over 6
    B  Nat 8 over 1
    B  Nat 8 over 2
    B  8 over 2
    B  9 over 4
    B  1 over 0
    P  Nat 8 over 1
    P  Nat 8 over 6
    P  Nat 9 over Nat 8
    T 7/7
    B  7 over 5
    T  0/0 (6-10 pip cards)
    B  Nat 9 over 7
    B  6 over 5
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    FOURTH SECTION


    P  6 over 4
    B  6 over 1
    P  7 over 4
    B  9 over 5
    B  3 over 1
    B  Nat 9 over 3
    P  7 over 3
    P Nat 9 over 3
    P 8 over 5  (Panda EIGHT)
    B  5 over 3
    P  8 over 7   (Panda EIGHT)
    P  4 over 0
    B  Nat 0 over 3
    B  5 over 1
    B  Nat 9 over 1
    P  7 over 4
    P  Nat 9 over 6
    B  Nat 8 over 6
    B  Nat 9 over 7
    B  7 over 5
    P  9 over 4
    B  7 over 4
    T 7/7
    T 8/8
    P  6 over 1
    P  9 over 6
    B  8 over 5
    B  0 over 1
    B  6 over 4
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________


    82 Hands
    Players = 32
    Banker = 42
    Ties = 8
    Pandas 8s = 2
    Fortune 7s = 1
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    (I will post decision notes and wagers later.  This was a shoe from actual play at a casino)
    I don't get it.  I mean, what's the point of listing every play and then after the shoe is over deciding what's a turning point and what's not.

    We've already agreed that you make bets based on past history of the shoe (like probably most other people I may add).

    So instead of pointing out some bets and giving selection examples as you promised you just post more shoes and draw lines after the fact.  I guess nothing easier than figuring out a shoe after it finishes.  Carry on!

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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 01:20:04 pm »
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  • I do this most of the time on a manual card on the table while playing.  I do it the same way, on the Big Road. 

    As far as guessing, predicting using columns, doing the grind and allocating hundreds of units to draw down to break even, etc., etc., we all have our styles of play.

    Unfortunately what you seem to want to exploit is my guessing and off the hip style of play that does not conform to yours.  You have a right to play the way you desire and comment (within reason of course) on mine.  But I see no reason why you continually come on and follow me here within my Blog as you evidently have no use, interest or reason to waste your time reading what I post. 

    You do not agree with me, you resent me, you comment negatively almost every time you do post following me.  I would suggest at this point you block me by clicking on my name within your ignore list, the best advise I can give you to save you the time and trouble of posting your negative and repetitive comments within my Blog. 

    I don't get it.  I mean, what's the point of listing every play and then after the shoe is over deciding what's a turning point and what's not.


    I do not once again, while it is happening and it allows me the visual focus that brings about exactly the opposite of what you falsely claim I do.

    We've already agreed that you make bets based on past history of the shoe (like probably most other people I may add).

    You take things to the extreme and twist and turn them for your investigative reporting that is false and not accurate.  Sorry, but you do.  I wager mostly on what could and what has not happened coupled with numerous other things that I have explained and you have failed to either agree with, acknowledge, etc., while you are desiring confrontation and negative engagement here. 

    So instead of pointing out some bets and giving selection examples as you promised you just post more shoes and draw lines after the fact.  I guess nothing easier than figuring out a shoe after it finishes.  Carry on!

    I rather you refrain yourself from coming on my Blog to post the negative comments you do.  You are wasting your time and rather than delete this I will let it stand, unlike the others you have posted. 

    I do not agree with your grind and method of play, you do not agree with mine.  You are wasting your time, period, end of story.

    Which brings to mind my little 6 year old coming home from school the other day.  Daddy, I learned that listening to one person and reading one book and believing everything one teacher says and keeping yourself studying one subject is not going to make you smart. 

    How True!   Bits and pieces here and bits and pieces there, coupled with experience of yourself and others, countless books and countless applications.  Merge them together and explore.  One avenue and one business sure sucks!  Kmart and Sears and Woolworth's sure had the vision that Wal Mart, Amazon, the Internet and other ventures sure crushed.   

    I have done well and this is just one of the powerful things that allow me to apply other things and it works for me and others. 

    Once again, you waste your time with your negative and worthless comments within my Blog, a space that you do not need to or should enter in the future as it is below you and you disagree with, despite and hate everything I say.  Thank you.   
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #38 on: May 14, 2019, 03:16:50 pm »
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  • For those of you that are real world players and can relate, I find it helpful to focus on certain Sections which present the best opportunities for my style of wagering.  Thus, my Sections & Turning Points have assisted me in doing just that. 

    Alone, as with any one thing in bac, that is not a sole factor to follow or wager against, etc.  However, as I have written about, it is an item that can assist you if you can use it the way i do. 

    I do believe the biggest single factor in bac is determining what part of the shoe and what section of presentments fit your wagering agenda. 

    This is done as the shoe is incurring, not after as another person has wrongfully assumed and made false accusations of.

    Use it as a tool and a guide of sorts.  It is not dependent upon math, stats, what has happened, what has not happened or anything of the likes.  Sections & Turning Points are simply the simple fact and agenda as to what is happening. 
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #39 on: May 14, 2019, 06:55:22 pm »
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  • Look Glen I'm just wondering how one is to determine a Turning Point as a shoe unfolds.  You stated that you do.  Surely there is some explanation that can be articulated to help people understand.  Also, the name itself invokes a change in course regarding bet selection that could be exploited.  If you don't care to explain this stuff that's your right.  Just say so.  And if you don't then why bother posting?

    We've already agreed that you make bets based on past history of the shoe (like probably most other people I may add).
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    You take things to the extreme and twist and turn them for your investigative reporting that is false and not accurate.

    So you don't make bets based on the history of the shoe?   I do.  I think a lot of people d0.  What's the big deal?

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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #40 on: May 15, 2019, 04:41:16 am »
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  • As in baccarat as in life, history is a guide but it is not a directive or a law; I tend to believe.

    History may or may not repeat itself. If it ALWAYS repeat itself, there will be no casinos able to sustain our betting onslaught.


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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #41 on: May 15, 2019, 01:28:03 pm »
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  • As in baccarat as in life, history is a guide but it is not a directive or a law; I tend to believe.

    History may or may not repeat itself. If it ALWAYS repeat itself, there will be no casinos able to sustain our betting onslaught.

    I am not looking for anything to strictly repeat itself by creating my Sections & Turning Points. 

    Sections & Turning Points are going to happen, they have to, there are 80 (60 some regions) hands within a shoe.

    Roughly 4, but a solid 3 to 5 Sections per shoe. 

    I do not set the rules when there is a turning point, the presentments do just that. 

    This is playing in reality, not within a set schedule of, I hope this or that will happen, etc. 

    Purpose of doing this is, that Sections hold true to themselves a high majority of the times and contrary to what you are thinking, Oh Glen marked that Section there and will compare it to the previous one.  Exactly the opposite.  Sections are themselves. 
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #42 on: May 15, 2019, 01:32:29 pm »
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  • Another example of Sections:

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    Section A stands alone.  As soon as it got weak and fell off, which most knew it was going to do of course, then the classic 1s and 2s came out.  You have to focus on what is there, NOT WHAT HAPPENED, which is exactly what you are saying I mean or I am stating.  Exactly the opposite. 

    And do not twist that around please.  I did not say it will turn to the opposite.  I said, the opposite of what you are saying that I mean.

    Just what Section C did, it got super strong once again.  I would be marking it up Section C after the 3rd Player hit.  Then I would focus on streaks or strong clumping or at least 4s and 5s, depending on what has happened in the past part of the shoe to a certain point. In this particular case, Player was too far behind, shoe half over, maybe not a run of 15 Players, but to me what happened was the ideal time for it to happen, 7 Players rather than cutting back to the Banker.  Also the way the cards were presented with super strong 3rd card wins for each Player or reduction to the Banker.   

    Marking a Section has nothing to do with what may or may not appear.  It has to do with identifying what is happening and allows visual focus more so than the Vertical marking up of a card with something.

    Problem here is most of you play for something to happen or must happen to meet your pre-selected and mechanical grind wager.  You get mad when I say that, but that is what you do.  I rather play the presentments and what is happening and take advantage of that with a couple of large positive progressions and then just pull down the winnings. 

     
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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #43 on: May 16, 2019, 03:15:53 am »
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    I am not looking for anything to strictly repeat itself by creating my Sections & Turning Points.
    Not strictly but kind of or maybe sometime, maybe not.    Kind of like being half pregnant? :))
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    Sections & Turning Points are going to happen, they have to, there are 80 (60 some regions) hands within a shoe.

    Roughly 4, but a solid 3 to 5 Sections per shoe. 

    I do not set the rules when there is a turning point, the presentments do just that. 

    This is playing in reality, not within a set schedule of, I hope this or that will happen, etc. 

    Purpose of doing this is, that Sections hold true to themselves a high majority of the times and contrary to what you are thinking, Oh Glen marked that Section there and will compare it to the previous one.  Exactly the opposite.  Sections are themselves.
    The rest is a real gem!   :))This topic has turned into a joke!  You continue to obfuscate and condescend to fictive ghost players you've made up in your head.  This rather than give one simple clear example.  Why?  I can only presume you don't know why you make a bet.

    Get the shovels out, folks!    But do carry on!  Maybe Assym will opine with "interesting topic, Al." 

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    Re: Baccarat Sections and Turning Points
    « Reply #44 on: May 16, 2019, 04:57:12 am »
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  • Not strictly but kind of or maybe sometime, maybe not.    Kind of like being half pregnant? :))The rest is a real gem!

    No idea why you continually follow, come on and post your rubbish and negativity.  Why do you waste your time with reading what you do not like, enjoy, find interesting or learn from, a definitive waste  of valuable and precious time, yours!  Obviously you are bored and attempting to troll.  So be it. 

      :))This topic has turned into a joke!  You continue to obfuscate and condescend to fictive ghost players you've made up in your head.

      You accuse of me of things you make up and are false.  You are wasting your precious time.  I think you should ignore my Blog and myself.  You are a negative person and you are not welcomed within my Blog, period.  I think you are an elderly gentlemen with zero to contribute.  You are a sad and bored person in my view.

    This rather than give one simple clear example.  Why?  I can only presume you don't know why you make a bet.

    I most certainly do when I make bets, the highest majority of the time.  I do guess at times like most other players in B&M casinos.  You assume wrong and accuse me of things I do not do and have not said at times.  Again you are a negative and a bored elderly gentlemen with little to do and you enjoy posting where you are not welcomed.  You are clearly trolling and I will state once again, you are not welcomed within my Blog.
     

    Get the shovels out, folks!    But do carry on!  Maybe Assym will opine with "interesting topic, Al."

    You are a bit degrading and your comments are not welcomed within my Blog.  Go away and enjoy your precious time as it is not welcomed here by myself.  Better yet, start your own Blog and teach and spread your great knowledge, wealth and experience.  You are very clearly belittling yourself here, there are lots of other rooms and Blogs that you can spread your joy within.  Cheers! 

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