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The gullible people of the internet, the gullible and simply super naive people thinking that they can get rich gambling:

"Mark Thomas Georgantas knows how to beat baccarat, blackjack, craps and roulette in Las Vegas.  He's producing a documentary about his system. Just fork over a few grand, and he'll show you how it's done.  "Once you experience winning with the 'Biggins Craps System', "you will never look at gaming the same", he told potential investors. "Talk about living the dream. Where else can you fall out of bed, go downstairs to a table, win, and go to cashier? No employees, no boss, no inventory, no hassle. Pure cash, baby!"
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'LMAO!  Sad, but always been 100% true, correct and spot on!  I promise you.  But hey, don't believe me, don't believe the State of Nevada, Don't believe 30 to 50 other states within the USA alone, believe the internet ad and the message board people promising you tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands in gambling returns for merely following their system that no one else ever tried or knows about! 

Once again the MIT team brought up in another sales pitch, that move 21, made a lot of con men a heck of a lot of money!  Also great ammunition for lots of message board people that use it as defense to their mathematical concoctions describing their statistical rock solid holy grail, etc.

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PART 1:  2016
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/pure-cash-promise-to-beat-las-vegas-casinos-leads-to-indictment/
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PART 2:  March 2018
Sentencing delayed for man accused of Las Vegas casino scam

Mark Georgantas, second from right, who persuaded people to give him money for what prosecutors said was a casino scam, waits to be sentenced at the Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Feb. 26, 2018. Georgantas was granted a 30-day continuance. K.M. Cannon Las Vegas Review-Journal @KMCannonPhoto

Mark Georgantas, right, who persuaded people to give him money for what prosecutors said was a casino scam, talks to his attorney, Caesar Almase, before he was scheduled to be sentenced at the Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Feb. 26, 2018. Georgantas was granted a 30-day continuance. K.M. Cannon Las Vegas Review-Journal @KMCannonPhoto

Mark Georgantas, who persuaded people to give him money for what prosecutors said was a casino scam, after he was granted a 30-day continuance at his sentencing at the Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Feb. 26, 2018. K.M. Cannon Las Vegas Review-Journal

By David Ferrara / Las Vegas Review-Journal
March 5, 2018 - 6:06 pm
 
Updated March 5, 2018 - 9:49 pm

'Mr. Smooth' walked into court with a limp.  Mark Georgantas, a 55-year-old felon whose other aliases include 'Mark Gigantis' and 'Mark G,' shuffled through the Regional Justice Center on Monday with the aid of a cane.  More than four months after agreeing to pay back nearly half a million dollars in connection with a "pure cash" promise of beating Las Vegas casino pit games, Georgantas persuaded a judge to postpone his sentencing, which initially was scheduled for last month.  He needs hip replacement surgery, said his lawyer, Caesar Almase.  In late October, Georgantas, who calls himself a "creative gaming enthusiast," pleaded guilty to one count of theft. He also agreed to pay $408,000 to eight different victims and be placed on house arrest until the judge hands down his sentence.
Part of the deal he cut with prosecutors stated that his $500,000 bail could be reinstated if he withdrew his plea, hired a new attorney or did anything else causing delay in sentencing."

Should Georgantas fail to appear at future court hearings, he agreed not to oppose being sentenced as a habitual criminal. He has a documented history of running from the law and people who lend him cash.

On Monday, District Judge Stefany Miley asked for further proof of an operation scheduled for April 9. Georgantas has long complained of hip trouble, and his potential surgery was anticipated at the time of his plea.  Prosecutors have agreed to a sentence of two to five years in prison. Georgantas is technically eligible for parole, but he also could be sentenced to up to 10 years behind bars.
He's due back in court a week before the surgery, and Almase promised that Georgantas would return to court later that month "with regards to his prognosis and an estimation on his post-op recovery."

Nearly two years ago, Georgantas, who rejects the label of con man, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that he beat games like blackjack, roulette and craps on his own. Prosecutors characterized his "Biggins Craps System" and other methods to beat the houses built on lost bets as fraud, but they dropped that charge after Georgantas pleaded guilty.

Georgantas' record stretches to California, where he has been convicted of conspiracy and grand theft, once escaped jail through a storm drain and walked away from a trial on credit card fraud charges connected to purchases he made for Fire On Ice Inc., a business he still lists on LinkedIn and Facebook profiles.

In Las Vegas, prosecutors presented Georgantas' elaborate casino scheme to a grand jury, and he spent three months on the lam after being indicted. As investigators approached him in April 2016 at Mr. Lucky's, a 24-hour diner in the Hard Rock Hotel, Georgantas jumped over a half wall, faked a heart attack and tried to run, according to prosecutors.

Georgantas said he initially thought someone was attacking him for his cash. He said he spent the next three days hospitalized with symptoms of adult-onset diabetes.
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PART 3:  TODAY

Here is the current, and what is the surprise?  Are you really surprised?  Are you still in the guy's corner?  Do you still believe in systems and sellers and the likes of the gambler con man then steals money from people that read our message boards?  And I am the bad one because I expose the reality, the real B&M play, the real experiences and the real things happening or happened at various baccarat tables? 


CURRENT:  August 2018:
Alleged Las Vegas con man skips sentencing, loses plea deal
 
Mark Georgantas, second from right, who persuaded people to give him money for what prosecutors said was a casino scam, waits to be sentenced at the Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Feb. 26, 2018. Georgantas was granted a 30-day continuance. K.M. Cannon Las Vegas Review-Journal @KMCannonPhoto
 
Mark Georgantas, who persuaded people to give him money for what prosecutors said was a casino scam, after he was granted a 30-day continuance at his sentencing at the Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas on Feb. 26, 2018. K.M. Cannon Las Vegas Review-Journal

By David Ferrara / Las Vegas Review-Journal
August 15, 2018 - 5:09 pm
 
Mark Georgantas, an alleged Las Vegas casino scammer, knew that skipping court on Wednesday could expose him to five times as many years in prison.  He acknowledged as much while discussing his case in a video posted on YouTube two weeks ago, anticipating his sentencing hearing and displaying an ankle bracelet tracking device.  But when District Judge Stefany Miley called Georgantas's name Wednesday morning, she looked up and saw only his attorney, Michael Pandullo, standing beside the defense table.

"He's currently in the hospital," Pandullo told the judge without offering further details about Georgantas' condition or where he was hospitalized.  Georgantas, a felon whose aliases include 'Mr. Smooth,' 'Mark Gigantis' and 'Mark G', has a documented history of running from the law and people who lend him cash.  Miley immediately issued an arrest warrant with a $500,000 bail at the request of Deputy Attorney General Michael Viets, who indicated that prosecutors now could seek to pursue habitual criminal status against Georgantas.

 "This gentleman is well-familiar with the system," the judge said.   That means the plea deal he accepted in late October for a sentence of two to five years in prison on one count of theft is essentially off the table. Prosecutors can now argue for putting him behind bars for 10 to 25 years. Georgantas has felony convictions in California, where he once abandoned a trial and later escaped from a minimum-security facility through a storm drain.

On paper, Georgantas accepted a deal late last year to pay back nearly half a million dollars in connection with a "pure cash" promise of beating Las Vegas casino pit games. Then he persuaded the judge to postpone his sentencing, initially scheduled for February. He said he needed hip replacement surgery, which was supposed to have been performed in April. He promised to return for sentencing.
But in the video, Georgantas suggested a desire to withdraw his plea.

"It's not even a legal plea," Georgantas said in the video, apparently recorded at a Starbucks.  Nevada prosecutors said Georgantas convinced at least two people to give him more than $350,000 in a promise to beat casino pit games. Georgantas told two men that he could win regularly at baccarat, blackjack, craps and roulette in Las Vegas, prosecutors said. He promised to always walk out of a casino with a profit.

Talking about his case and eventual plea on video, Georgantas said, "It's all lies just to get me to fall on the sword."  He seemed convinced that the men who said he stole from them would "never show up for trial."  But one of Georgantas' victims, Evan Rodich, arrived at the Regional Justice Center on Wednesday, prepared to speak at the sentencing hearing about how the defendant had affected his life.

Another man who sat in the courtroom gallery, Michael McDonald, had posted the video earlier this month. Asked about the hospitalization, McDonald would say only that Georgantas suffered from "debilitating hip issues."
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"Georgantas told two men that he could win regularly at baccarat, blackjack, craps and roulette in Las Vegas, prosecutors said. He promised to always walk out of a casino with a profit."

When I read that a minute ago, I should not have taken that sip of my coffee!  It went right out of my nose and unto my desk! 

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Well said, sit back and watch.  Reality for the jerks reading these message boards is hard to swallow, for others, it is interesting and something to add to your knowledge base:

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Thought I should let the man himself have a little explanation time within this post, his thoughts as follows:


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