Hi AsymBacGuy

Asym above in post #1344 in response to my post.

"...I like the term "Event gaps' contraction and expansion"

It could be someway intended as the Alrelax "sections" or my "ranges".
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He (The Tie Bettor) uses a scaled-score tracking method for assessing the current Face Card Vs Cards remaining ratio(Basically card removal affect on current potential for a T). As well as a couple other ratios related to Ties(We both perceive that 7s and cards that can form 7s are beneficial to understand), as well as the gaps(distance between said events).  Distance between meaning hands between certain events(This what I meant about contraction /expansion). Like most any event at Bac we will see its (SD) reach an apex and then back again. Similar to the ebb and flow of the tides,..etc.

He (like me) perceives that Events want to occur in clumps. I seldom wager for Ties(unless sitting with him) and he nudges me. Then I would be likely to wager it for several times in a row and then stop( Win or Lose).

Although, I do track what all-things-sevens are doing. I seldom wager "for" a Fortune7(3c7 B win), however, I do like to side step a 3c7 B win  if I think a wager on B is favorable at that particular moment.

Continued Success,

Event gaps are a signaling trigger to a certain point depending on the way they are interpreted.  A quick $20k on a lower limit table was realized here, but if that was in Vegas or a higher dollar table, I could have easily realized into the 6 figures.

Event gaps can and will be tricky.  They can lead advantaged players to much larger wins and as well, lead any type of player to losses. 

Hi KFB and Al, thanks!

I've recently witnessed three consecutive ties in a row getting a 0 point (6-5-9, J-2-8; six zero value cards, K-3-7 10-6-4) a kind of super unlikely event.
I know that somewhere there's the option to bet a 0 tie...just wondering how much money could be won here.

I agree about the importance of events "clumping", honestly I still don't see reasons to bet ties no matter how card ranks are diluted or concentrated in the playable deck but maybe I'm wrong.
   
Yes, a deck particularly rich of even cards make more probable the tie apparition (John May) but real valuable opportunities are so rare that we better take more "imperfect" approaches.

Finally, yes rare shoes are so asymmetrically distributed that even the simple BP predominance will take the lead over every other sophisticated or not strategy.
Shoes as the one provided by Al with a proper multiple players action are the only ones capable to literally empty the dealer's tray.

as.

If I recall the shoe I posted above with 47B and 16P, most made some decent profit/wins with the first 2 bankers streaks, but most did not or wagered players more so than bankers on the latter out of control super dominant bankers from the 13 iar streak and on.  Most kept saying, it has to be players, players has to make a come back, players coming out, etc., etc. 

As I always say, do not wager for what you desire.  Wager with what is happening.  Not always easy, but at times it is if you have a frame of mind and thought process, that is clear and non frustrated.

Well sayed.

If we're losing our mind is imperfectly oriented to chase "more normal situations" happening in a row to get our money back, instead we should be more focused not to lose more bucks.

The same when we're winning, the world seems to be positively shifted to our favor, but most of the times it takes just two-three wrong hands to give back most of our profit and resetting the mind is not an easy task.

Casinos are totally insensitive of emotional issues, unfortunately players do.

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The asymmetrical/symmetrical nature of the productions give us valuable hints to estimate when and how much, on average, winning or losing events (streaks) show up or stand.

I dare to say that once we've run and registered thousands of shoes, it's virtually impossible to lose a lot or, on the other part, to easily get "sky's the limit" sessions.

We made an experiment by running 20 different random walks applied to the original BP sequence and not surprisingly the asymmetrical nature of most patterns overwhelmed (by values capable to invert the HE) the symmetrical counterpart.

Obviously it's not that easy to find out which random walk gets the best asym features, let alone to build such 20 different r.w. lines in practice, yet we've reached the conclusion that it's way better to bet toward asymmetry than symmetry, especially and foremost when different patterns show up.

Another interesting aspect to take care of is that per every shoe dealt in the same circumstances, asymmetrical or symmetrical patterns stop their homogeneous lenght of apparition by more probable values, especially at a couple of random walks utilized.

In a word and considering 1st winning attempts, each shoe is way less likely to produce long (greater than 3) AS patterns followed by the same or greater S counterpart and vice versa.
Meaning that each first attempt vs everything else will get a kind of further "asymmetrical probability" between wins and losses.

That give us a strong long term advantage, even if it's complicated to be ascertained and adding to the features already discussed.

Suppose to get a string of first winning attempts equal or greater than 3, our data suggest it'll be more probable to get subsequent losing patterns inferior than 3, so negating a further "so called" symmetry between second level patterns. Of course by levels superior than expected math values.

See you next week

as. 

Frankly, I can't see how one could lose a lot by taking care of the asym/sym feature traced here.

Maybe asymmetry stalls (meaning it could be quite undetectable for some shoes) but more shoes are played (or observed) higher will be its detectability considered by frames.

Present me some shoes where you got the perception that asymmetry would succumb to symmetry.
We'll take care of the possible bettable spots together.

as. 

Gambling, especially in a game such as baccarat is a mixture of experience, knowledge, emotions and frustrations (for the experienced player probably more so, "I should have done such and such instead of so and so", etc.  For the new and less experienced player, just the loss of money or his opposition to the other players at the table. 

IMO when the player applies his experience, knowledge and a rock solid Money Management Method with a complete clear frame of mind, he is advantaged over the casino and can take large profits from certain shoes.

 

Post #1351 above. Great B run(s).

Good W for you. Was that a recent win at your local casino??




Continued Success,

Hi Asym
re: Your thoughts above in post #1352

"...

I've recently witnessed three consecutive ties in a row getting a 0 point (6-5-9, J-2-8; six zero value cards, K-3-7 10-6-4) a kind of super unlikely event.
I know that somewhere there's the option to bet a 0 tie...just wondering how much money could be won here.

I agree about the importance of events "clumping", honestly I still don't see reasons to bet ties no matter how card ranks are diluted or concentrated in the playable deck but maybe I'm wrong..."

re: The Tie Bettor I mentioned above.
    I agree with you/ though he seems to wager for Ties with success. My thinking is the same efforts would produce a greater Net return if one would focus the same energy on lower H.E. bets.

He does a slow series of wagers following a slight Neg Progression, He said what happens is that often at the higher tier levels he will hit several winners within a short gap distance between (cluster). He then drops the tier level (even if he is not Net +) at that stage,...etc until in positive territory.
He utilizes a very large bank roll to wager ratio/ doesn't mind using it. He stated once that Tier 13 was the most extreme level reached before + again. I do not know the number of wagers in each tier and what the % is between tiers.



Continued Success,

Quote from: KungFuBac on July 24, 2025, 04:15:57 PMPost #1351 above. Great B run(s).

Good W for you. Was that a recent win at your local casino??




Continued Success,

Yes local casino.  From approximately end of 2023.