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As I've mentioned in my introduction, I'm primarily here to learn from all of you seasoned gambling pros. The Baccarat Pro App isn't perfect, but I'm hoping that with your help it will get as close as possible!

At the moment our development resources are focused on getting the Android version up as soon as possible. Once that's done, we'll get started on working in your feature suggestions.

Here are some that we've already receive via email from some users (feel free to add-on, comment, agree/disagree with any of these):


1) Exporting results (into an excel sheet) to be able to view and analyse hand by hand results
2) Adding of 'Banker Payout Commission' option in the Settings tab to more accurately determine strategy profits



(I'll be keeping this list updated at the end of every post in this thread so that everyone has easy reference to the list in the latest post as opposed to having to scroll through and read each post)


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Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 12:40:56 PM »
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  • Banker Commission is a must. Otherwise the results have no meaning. Without commission even flat betting banker is a winner.

    Can you input a shoe or shoes manually to see how a system works? Is it too much programming?

    What is the program used to duplicate baccarat game in the simulations? Does it duplicate the actual game. Do you actually draw cards in the simulation.

    A separate app may be necessary for ipads.

    Exporting results (into an excel sheet) is an excellent idea. I want to see how the system works at least in one shoe.
     

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    Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
    « Reply #2 on: April 03, 2017, 12:00:51 PM »
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  • Banker Commission is a must. Otherwise the results have no meaning. Without commission even flat betting banker is a winner.

    Can you input a shoe or shoes manually to see how a system works? Is it too much programming?

    What is the program used to duplicate baccarat game in the simulations? Does it duplicate the actual game. Do you actually draw cards in the simulation.

    A separate app may be necessary for ipads.

    Exporting results (into an excel sheet) is an excellent idea. I want to see how the system works at least in one shoe.
     


    Thanks James.

    I completely agree - Excluding Banker Commission was an oversight on my part and I'm going to include that in one of our next few updates. Otherwise, as you've rightfully pointed out, the results would be inaccurate.

    I don't quite understand what benefit you would receive by inputting shoes manually though. Could you elaborate on that, perhaps with a use case scenario?

    We built the game mechanism from scratch (we don't use any 3rd party software for the simulations). And yes, the cards are all actually dealt out for each shoe. This way you get a unique deal/shoe every single time and it safeguards against anyone crafting a strategy based on a particular set of results. This will become clear once we've added the Export results function. Here's a sneak peek of what that would look like:
    (1 Deck Shoe, betting on Player, Martingale progression)



    I am getting quite a few requests for an iPad app (3 so far!) so it is something I'll look into soon and possibly move up the priority chain :)

    Thanks so much for your feedback James!

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    Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
    « Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 05:34:44 PM »
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  • Thanks for your response.

    I usually analyse the shoes I played in the casino in the home. If I can manually input the shoe I played in the iphone, I will know which of the three or four programs stored in the iphone would have fared the best. Perhaps I will know which system or systems to use for my casino.

    Perhaps programming ipad may not be too difficult, since both use the same operating system. I am not a programmer!

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    Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 03:49:38 AM »
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  • Thanks for your response.

    I usually analyse the shoes I played in the casino in the home. If I can manually input the shoe I played in the iphone, I will know which of the three or four programs stored in the iphone would have fared the best. Perhaps I will know which system or systems to use for my casino.

    Perhaps programming ipad may not be too difficult, since both use the same operating system. I am not a programmer!

    Hey James,

    I'm going to have to caution you about that approach. Manually inputting shoes that you have played at the casino (let's assume the number of shoes here is 5 per session) and then reviewing them really doesn't do anything useful for you. In fact, it could be dangerous to use such a small data sample size to confirm the effectiveness of any strategy at all. So please don't use that as a gauge of which system you can or cannot use.

    Personally the only reason I would test a strategy on a casino game with a negative expected value is to figure out what would be the best and worst spikes in variance over a big sample size (I would recommend testing across at least 10,000 shoes) which would then inform my bankroll requirements and perhaps also give me an idea of when I should make my exit (for example, if I had won an amount somewhere close to the highest spike a saw in the 10k shoe simulation).

    As for the iPad version, from a development perspective it isn't too difficult but I'll need to get a designer to adapt the screens for the larger size (which would require some investment and time). Nonetheless, it's definitely something I'm looking into and we'll release it in time to come. Thank you for your feedback!

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    Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
    « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 08:09:25 AM »
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  • I will interject here on behalf of the community, which I think is vitality important to the longevity of this board. 

    Two things and I will not go into detail about them here, but I will in a thread later today in the Baccarat section.

    1)  As I have said in many threads, there is no real relevance a gambler can use (except some background knowledge that is the same to actual experience without the limelight and 'ingrained' first hand live experience--so the gambler will not have 'what led the cards to do that with any real advantage, if one actually existed anyway) that can be used in real casino play that will actually, with any god ammunition, assist the gambler in real live play to win money--by knowing statistics as discussed within this thread or anything related as the author of Autobetic says.

    2)  As said, knowing statistics of a certain section (amount) of shoes and attempting to use those stats could be dangerous to your play.  I would have to agree 100% with that and have stated the exact same thing. For, what happens at a casino, any casino, probably IMO, will not match those statistics for one simple elementary reason.  And that is, you are playing a tiny small section of shoes that will have no real resemblance of what you have analyzed. 

    Moral of real thinking.  You are attempting to figure why a tire on a car just blew out.  OH, it was an 'object' that just punctured it.  Fine, now that I know the reason, I won't take that road again and thus, I will avoid picking up debris that appears to be on that road and take a different route.

    As far as what the author of Autobetic says about Money Management, yes another 100%, as Money Management is the only thing (tangible anyway) that will assist and allow the gambler to walk with a portion of the win money, if the gambler won money.  But very important, the gambler is not given winning strategy because of Money Management--he is giving time at the casino table allowing him to continue making winning decisions with his funds to win more money.   
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    Re: Baccarat Pro App Issue Reporting, Feedback, Feature Suggestions
    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 02:10:14 PM »
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  • Haha...well said alrelax. And love the tire analogy!

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    « Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 03:43:44 PM »
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  • Happy to announce that we're very close to releasing an update that allows users to input Banker's Commission! Thank you to all who highlighted to me that this feature was missing.

    We've also been working really hard to get the Android version ready. We should be rolling that out earlier in May instead of the original schedule of late June.