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"Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
« on: May 10, 2019, 12:28:05 pm »
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  • I REALLY suspect Hollywood casino in Columbus is using a rigged computer for their stadium baccarat.. anyone ever heard any info about Interbank<SP>
     and the fairness of their stadium style electronic baccarat?

    I am suspecting a rigged game because I noticed every time bets were placed over, say, $20, I would see a slight glitch or hesitation in the dealing of the cards and would loose... EVERY.TIME... and although I can't give specific outcomes, it seems to me there were at least 3 instances where they did not deal a 3rd banker card and they should have..i.e, player had 6 and banker had 2 dealt cards totaling 3 and they did not deal a 3rd card for banker...

    Playing a rock solid system that I have tested for hours/100's of hands at real life online casinos (Vivo)..Not a single session loss...

    Then at Hollywood I experience 12 losses in a row...I call BULL$@#..   Please, I know statistically it's possible to loose 12 times in a row.. But with all my testing I have a feel for this system and what it can do... it just does not loose (I'm not fantasizing or bragging here, just stating my opinion after testing)..

    I would of thought that a B&M casino supposedly under license to the Ohio Casino Commission would at least offer FAIR and HONEST computer based baccarat..  :no: :nope:


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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2019, 04:03:12 pm »
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  • audionut,

      Can you post up any of the shoe results from your stadium play?

      A shoe transcription would work nicely.

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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #2 on: May 12, 2019, 03:04:07 pm »
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  • Sorry I didn't record the shoe... but talking to a gambling mathematics PHD expert, he says the chances of me losing 12 in a row is 5 out of 10 thousand, or .0005...

    Again, I know it's POSSIBLE, but the odds of it happening the FIRST TIME I sit down to play it?? I REALLY suspect the computer bac is rigged even though it's in a "regulated" casino in Columbus, OH... :annoy:


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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #3 on: May 12, 2019, 04:28:22 pm »
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  • 1.If the game is rigged, why are they rigging it just against you ?.....were there any other customers playing at the same time you were playing...............and if there were, and they were betting more than you, why didn't they rig the game against them and not you since they were betting more than you?

    2. Next time you go to that casino, stand next to the dealer for a few minutes and see if they are dealing the card out of the shoe correctly...to rig the game, the shuffle machine has to be connected to a wi-fi to all the betting terminals to see who is betting the net amount  on Banker or Player and then select the correct card out of the shoe to ensure that the casino wins......for example if the total bet on Player is $ 1500 and the total bet on banker is $4000, the shuffle machine will ensure that the Banker loses the hand so the casino wins the difference of $ 2500

    3. If this is a Non Tribal casino, they can lose their State Gaming License if they are caught so it doesn't make too much sense to cheat when they can win their 1.3% advantage anyway at baccarat in the long run. 

    But if it is a small Tribal ( Indian) casino, then there may be more chance of something illegal happening........but the only way to cheat is for the manufacturer of the shuffle machine  to actually code software which is running the shuffler to communicate with the betting terminals and then write code to somehow change the order of the cards in the shoe so that the card needed to win for the casino is selected......and then if caught,  the manufacturer would find itself liable for civil and criminal lawsuits in  addition to going bankrupt....and the manufacturer would have to be getting a cut of the illegal profits since they would not write the code for free.......so it all seems pretty unlikely.

    4.In spite of what you read on this or other forums about high $$$$ winnings and high percentage winning bets,  in the game of baccarat, losses of 7,8,9,10 or 12 hands in a row ( in the same shoe or 2 consecutive shoes ) unfortunately occur periodically...and if someone disagrees with this, they are delusional and should immediately seek out a mental health professional.

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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #4 on: May 12, 2019, 05:10:27 pm »
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  • "4.In spite of what you read on this or other forums about high $$$$ winnings and high percentage winning bets,  in the game of baccarat, losses of 7,8,9,10 or 12 hands in a row ( in the same shoe or 2 consecutive shoes ) unfortunately occur periodically...and if someone disagrees with this, they are delusional and should immediately seek out a mental health professional."

    There are most certainly high dollar wins at all casinos on sporadic and varying basis.  However, the casinos win is usually in greater amounts on a consistent basis, taking into effect 24/7/365 play at most. 

    I do witness most losing against the casino a few times a week when I am at the casinos.  I am not a full time 8 to 15 hour a day player, every day.  However, I have numerous friends, and professional contacts that are usually telling me about something at one of the casinos every day, day in and day out.  And usually there are not very many high dollar wins overall where everyone won and every one cashed out and left.  Coupled with the fact, in most cases those people are right back playing larger and harder and losing it all plus additional funds.  Most every one of them, at least 9 out of 10 anyway, in my experience, knowledge and witnessing. 

    If your statement was directed towards me, yes I do write about and highlight the few great shoes as a prime example oif what is possible and how we approached it, if I was there.  The losing sessions and shoes are so redundant and so common, they only highlight what I call using my Money Management Method and risking the buy in, not your bank roll. 

    The only way I can see to profit at baccarat since I do not do the grind and make $100 to $300 a day, because I choose to get all of my family, housing, life and savings covered by my career, not gambling.  Gambling has been good to me at times and has certainly allowed me many vacations, great times, extra cash and other things I have written about. 

    But as far as rigging and the casino taking or paying out, usually they cover themselves with the lost money by the players that lost by far, as compared to those that won sizable amounts.  I do not personally believe the games are rigged.  The consequences in most all states from their gaming control boards would ultimately be criminal charges and they would love to bring those is discovered.  I have family members in five states involved within the casino industry and I have knowledge as to what can or would happen if some form of rigging was actually brought to the gaming control officials. 

    And yes, by far, the average is lots of losing hands as compared to the winning hands.  The few (or fewer) times the largest money is continually paid, as compared to the losing collections from the players, are less on a consistent all-day every-day schedule. 

    And finally yes, losses of 7 to 15 times in a row are extremely common even in winning session.  Of course.  That is why I have detailed my money management method and when I stick by it, I win and walk with the winnings and when I do not, I give it back or severely get hurt.  I have written about this, took my time to explain and have been chastised and belittled because of sharing real life baccarat experience. 
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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #5 on: May 12, 2019, 08:43:31 pm »
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  • Sorry I didn't record the shoe... but talking to a gambling mathematics PHD expert, he says the chances of me losing 12 in a row is 5 out of 10 thousand, or .0005...

    An insight to what exactly you lost 12 in a row against would be helpful, a 12 streak, 12 chops, random bets?  I lost 10 in a row a few nights ago, it does happen, I've certainly lost more than that in the past.  The odds of losing 12 in a row is 1 in 4096, 0.083%


    If your statement was directed towards me
    Not everything is about you Glen.


    I am not a full time 8 to 15 hour a day player, every day. ~ The only way I can see to profit at baccarat since I do not do the grind and make $100 to $300 a day, because I choose to get all of my family, housing, life and savings covered by my career, not gambling.

    For your information, since it is the second time you have eluded to 'a full time players and career's'.

    My career is/was in the IT industry, which is a tad more respectable than being associate with the brothel industry and hookers.   

    By the way, I've played more than 25000 shoes since 2004, I'm currently playing well over 100 per week (35 mins per shoe), there are members here who would also number in the very high thousands, such as Andy and Jim, not that it means very much, not something to be worn as a badge of honour, because in reality, they have cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars. 


    Talking about it and doing it are two separate and seldom connected events.  But this time he can be hands on and he has experienced the bad side for a while.  I know a lot of gamblers and a lot of real casino bac players for many years.  Every single one of them that have anything today, have lost everything several times, but at least once.  Not a single one has won and consistently kept winning and always positive since day one, not one, not a single one.
    I shudder to think that you consider yourself the exception.  Add a couple of zero's to what I stated above.


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    Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

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    Re: "Stadium" baccarat in casino...computer driven
    « Reply #6 on: May 12, 2019, 08:51:52 pm »
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  • Not everything is about you Glen.
    You're dead wrong.  Everything is about Glen. :))