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[Tomla]

Just going on a simple 124 simple martingale vs player produces about a unit a shoe after
commission in my testing of about 2500 shoes but not 124 vs banker----
just info for you guys if it's a PPPP
(a loss wait for a new Player to show--let the P's run out get a B then a P and resume) hope it helps
This is one of my old ones I'm going to give it a whirl with 124

[soggett]

quick test, after 500 results +45 (115 wins, 10 losses), very nice, thanks for sharing     (that's without commision)

[Tomla]

sorry im going to give it a whirl with 122,,,,,

[Carlitos]

... why not do it like this,

When PPPP shows, and then B and right away PP again, and then B again, play next P.

So you get this PPPP B PP B P..... sometimes it helds up for like 4 5 to 6 times in an row.
Saw some Chinese people playing like this.

I tested some shoes without using any progression like Martingale, still was able to have +1 at the end of the shoe, highest being sometimes 5,6 to +7.

One can play it also the otherway around, BBBB P BB P play B.

I think you guys are familiar with this?

Carlitos 

[ADulay]

... why not do it like this,

When PPPP shows, and then B and right away PP again, and then B again, play next P.

So you get this PPPP B PP B P..... sometimes it helds up for like 4 5 to 6 times in an row.
Saw some Chinese people playing like this.


One can play it also the otherway around, BBBB P BB P play B.

Carlitos 

Carlitos,

   Well, assuming you will be able to sit at the table (or stand around near a table) waiting for one of these particular 8 hand series to show up, you may not be welcome at your seat.

   However, if you should SEE it during your normal course of play, you could play it as a side wager "to yourself" and keep track of the statistics on it.

  Of course, any of about 9 different "systems" or methods will easily beat that particular string all day and night so actually WAITING for it to show up might be wasting time and money.

  AD

   

[Carlitos]

that's how the Chinese guy played, and he was sitting in his seat comfortable 




Which one will you advice ADulay??
I play roulette most of the times but Baccarat always has my side attention, i want to get more into Baccarat.




Carlitos 

[Tomla]

I tested about 700 hands with 122 and am going to play it live at a casino tomorrow night

[andrebac]

I tested about 700 hands with 122 and am going to play it live at a casino tomorrow night

do you refer to the 122 in this forum or that one on BTC?
could you share a scorecard?
thanks

[ADulay]

... why not do it like this,

When PPPP shows, and then B and right away PP again, and then B again, play next P.

So you get this PPPP B PP B P..... sometimes it helds up for like 4 5 to 6 times in an row.
Saw some Chinese people playing like this.

I tested some shoes without using any progression like Martingale, still was able to have +1 at the end of the shoe, highest being sometimes 5,6 to +7.

One can play it also the otherway around, BBBB P BB P play B.

I think you guys are familiar with this?

Carlitos 

Hmm, just played a full shoe (for a change) at my local tribal enclave and the particular series you're waiting for never showed up.  In fact there was only one instance of "PPPP" and it went right into a nice "BBBBB".

All the remaining "P's" were 1 or 2 with a single PPP at the end.

In fact, here's the shoe results.

PBBPP BBBBP PBBPB BBPBB

PBBPP BBBPB PBPPB BBPPP

PBBBB BPBBP PBBBP PPBBB

PB

Edit here....  Just to clarify, I did NOT go in to play this particular series that is being discussed, I just wanted to tag this recent shoe on to the thread to demonstrate that waiting for a particular "event" may not come up, especially if it involves streaks of 4+.

AD

[Carlitos]

AD, i did not mention that you have to waitt specificly for an strike of 4. It was just an example.

It can be like this, BB P BBB P BB P BBBBBBB P BB P B, as long as the P comes only 1 time then one can bet right away for the Banker, or the otherway around.

See here a shoe,

BBBB PPP B PPPP T PPPPP BBB T B PP B P T P BBBBB PP BB P
PPP BBBB PPP B P B P B P BBB P B P BBB P BB P BBB P BB T BB T 

It could be that it happens not all the time, however when the opportunnity arrives why not take advantage of.

Anyway, this is how the Chinese guy was playing.

Any other ideas??








Carlitos 

[Tomla]

I played it 2 shoes .....made 3 units in the 1st shoe---got up 7 units in the second shoe and did a graceful exit to the bathroom------I also played two shoes using 122 as I understand it playing every hand with the predominant side of the last 3 hands....that also won some units like maybe 12 units after comish......between the two shoes
short real test but that's still like probably 200 hands?

[ADulay]

It can be like this, BB P BBB P BB P BBBBBBB P BB P B, as long as the P comes only 1 time then one can bet right away for the Banker, or the otherway around.

Any other ideas??
Carlitos 

Carlitos,

  OK, look at what you've got.  You're saying after any "single" P, wager on the "B".   What that plays out to is waiting for a "B P B" play and THEN wagering on "B" as you don't actually know if that "P" is a single until the "B" shows up after it.

  What the guy was playing was chasing a strong side "B" wager.  He was looking for a PBB string for the win.  Nothing wrong with that at all, especially if the "B" side was showing a lot of doubles and larger.  Reasonable strategy in that case.

  In my previously posted shoe, that would have resulted in a +2 unit win.

  AD

[ADulay]

Just an update from a shoe played last night on this particular system play.

Wagering was 1,2,4 and betting Banker after a single Player showed.

There were seven qualified wagers.

Four of them won with the intial wager.

Two of them won on the second wager.

The remaining qualified bet was on the last hand and it lost 1 unit.

Six wins, one loss.   Net of +5 with a high wager of 2 units.

Not bad.

AD

[ADulay]

All,

   From a shoe played on Jan 1st, here's what the system play in this thread wound up with.

   This is only for actual wagers made based on the previously stated conditions.

   LLLLL WWLLL LL

  Hmm, not a good prognosis at all, especially that horrible start!!

  Anyway, here's the shoe for those who like to test.

  BBPBP BPPPP BPPBP PPPPP

  BPPBP PPBPB BBPBB BPBPB

  PBBPP BBPPB BPBPP PPPBP

  BPBPP PPPBP

[Big EZ]

 BBPBP BPPPP BPPBP PPPPP

  BPPBP PPBPB BBPBB BPBPB

  PBBPP BBPPB BPBPP PPPBP

  BPBPP PPPBP 

x
  x
   x
  x
   w
   x
     w
     w
    w
  x
     w
  x
     w
   x
    x
      w
      w
     w
     w
    w
    w
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   x
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not a bad shoe