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[Superman]

Dealing down a shuffled deck is not the same
as starting the sequence fresh with every new spin of the roulette
wheel.

I guess he means the roulette wheel stays at 37 slots on offer but the deck has different card values all the time and towards the last deal you would/could maybe estimate sort of what's left, although there's a good few decks being used similar to BJ as far as I know, haven't studied it deeply but have looked at Bac in the past

[monaco]

Your target is 9 in total or to be the closest to it, tie you don't win or lose player pays even money and banker pays 19/20 so its best to play as player, if you bet for a tie its usually 8/1 payout, go to dublinbet and play the demo mate

I've always wondered why the Player bet is so underrated - it's like a 49.3%/50.7% edge in Bankers favour, Player pays evens, but so many systems & players seem to pile on Banker all the time.
Even winning on the last step of a 1-2-4-8 marty on Banker will see you only winning 0.6 of a unit - any sort of spread betting on Banker seems a nightmare.


Would it not be better to base all your bets on trending/betting etc Player only - I don't get the obsession with Banker??

[TwisterUK]

I've always wondered why the Player bet is so underrated - it's like a 49.3%/50.7% edge in Bankers favour, Player pays evens, but so many systems & players seem to pile on Banker all the time.
Even winning on the last step of a 1-2-4-8 marty on Banker will see you only winning 0.6 of a unit - any sort of spread betting on Banker seems a nightmare.


Would it not be better to base all your bets on trending/betting etc Player only - I don't get the obsession with Banker??

Maybe. Try it and let us know 

[Superman]

I don't get the obsession with Banker??

Probabll because in our mind he's the enemy so if we can side with him, surely the casino relies on him eventually coming out ahead, not so?

[Bally6354]

It's not a good idea to just stick to one side of anything. ie.. RED/BLACK or PLAYER/BANKER. You are going to get shoes dominated by one or the other and will get slaughtered if you stick to a losing side.

[TwisterUK]

Update:

38 Games Played 38 Games Won 


Im due a loss 2moz me thinks 

[Ralph]

Yes there is a slight difference but with  six decks it is minor. If a number in roulette shows it can show a number of times, a card which is not put back will not show next  hand.

[TwisterUK]

Yes I think they use 6 or 8 decks

[spike]

Hi spike

Can you expand on that and explain why ?

The roulette wheel starts over on every spin,
its an independent event. In bac, the shuffled
shoe is done, it doesn't start over with every
card drawn, you just deal down the shoe. This
makes for some screwy outcomes in the short
term sometimes. Clumping is one of them. You
never get clumping in roulette, not possible.

What throws everybody off is yes, in the long run
the law of series works out the same for roulette
and bac. But often in the short term in bac you
see some really whacko cards come out.

[monaco]

Probabll because in our mind he's the enemy so if we can side with him, surely the casino relies on him eventually coming out ahead, not so?

or it could be this -


House edge excluding ties:
1.36% on Player and 1.17% on Banker 

[Tarantino]

Im gonna play this system twisteruk and will keep u informed on how im doing. Very interesting way of playing, you ever played roulette this way, as in splitting it into 2 parts !

don't understand all the rules for Bacarrat as in, big road, big eye boy, small road and cockroach, but know the basics !

Do you wait for a shuffle before you start or do you just dive in whenever ...

[Superman]

you ever played roulette this way, as in splitting it into 2 parts !

Isn't that what even chances are all about?

[TwisterUK]

Im gonna play this system twisteruk and will keep u informed on how im doing. Very interesting way of playing, you ever played roulette this way, as in splitting it into 2 parts !

don't understand all the rules for Bacarrat as in, big road, big eye boy, small road and cockroach, but know the basics !

Do you wait for a shuffle before you start or do you just dive in whenever ...

You don't need to understand it mate. Just play PB and  your be fine 

ALWAYS after a Shuffle and begin at the start of a new Shoe 

[TwisterUK]

Update:

38 Games Played 38 Games Won 


Im due a loss 2moz me thinks 

Yup had me first Loss 


42 Games Played 41 Games Won

[subby]

Suck it up...move on....take the hit and come back fighting another day. We've had 6 total losses in Speramus but grinding out units has let me increase our BR by over 30% in 3 weeks