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[8OR9]

Babu- look at the three shoes posted by Alrelax at the top of this thread and look at how many times that there were hands above a run of 3 or less.........these shoes are fairly common and best illustrate what I was trying to explain. ............but it is still very difficult to create a winning method using this information except by using a money management technique where you have a relatively small loss target for each shoe you play and have a very conservative progression to recover losses.....such as a goal of losing only 6 units a shoe and a profit objective of 3 units a shoe.......and when you are down 18 units  flat betting, then bet 2 units until you recover and go back to betting 1 unit flat betting.......and never bet more than 2 units for one bet.

For example,  the following 9 shoes which has a bad run losing 5 shoes and winning 4 shoes

win  3 units
lose 6
lose  6
win 3
lose 6
win 3
win 3
lose 6
lose 6

You are down 18 units now start betting 2 units instead of 1 unit and maybe something like this happens

win 6
win 6 
lose 12
win 6
lose 12
win 6
win 6
win 6
win 6

So you win 18 units and you are even and now go back to start betting 1 unit.

Most people who seriously bet on baccarat , roulette, sports , soccer(football),  basketball, american football  baseball etc etc eventually come to the conclusion that just like starting any other business, you will need a big bankroll to succeed in the long run, and of course "big" is a relative term depending on how much you will bet and what type of conservative or aggressive money management plan you will use to handle the inevitable adversity which will occur.   

Best example is if you are an owner of a restaurant during the current pandemic, the restaurant with a large amount of capital ( bankroll) has a much better chance of staying in business until the pandemic is over than the restaurant owner who has very little capital(bankroll) to support his business.

Whether you are selling pizza or tacos or betting on the yankees in baseball or manchester unitited in soccer ( football ) or the lakers in basketball or player or banker in baccarat or red or black or streets in roulette...................if you are not sufficiently capitalized (bankroll), it will be extremely difficult for you to be successful....this is especially true of people who try to make a living playing poker......playing poker games where the bet size is too large for your bankroll will eventually wipe you out due to the extreme variance in profits and losses playing poker...................and eventually you will come to realize that your ultimate success or failure in poker is not your skill level and experience but the other people you are playing against......if everyone at the table has the general same skill level and experience as you, in the long run, the money just travels  around the table and the rake and dealer tips and bad beat jackpot contributions and your personal expenses, ( rent, food, car expenses, insurance etc etc ) will eventually bankrupt you. If you can not play against other opponents where you are a better more experienced poker player, you will eventually lose.

However, most people are only recreational gamblers so it really does not matter how much bankroll you have, or how much you bet.

[alrelax]

Babu- look at the three shoes posted by Alrelax at the top of this thread and look at how many times that there were hands above a run of 3 or less.........these shoes are fairly common and best illustrate what I was trying to explain. ............but it is still very difficult to create a winning method using this information except by using a money management technique where you have a relatively small loss target for each shoe you play and have a very conservative progression to recover losses.....such as a goal of losing only 6 units a shoe and a profit objective of 3 units a shoe.......and when you are down 18 units  flat betting, then bet 2 units until you recover and go back to betting 1 unit flat betting.......and never bet more than 2 units for one bet.

For example,  the following 9 shoes which has a bad run losing 5 shoes and winning 4 shoes

win  3 units
lose 6
lose  6
win 3
lose 6
win 3
win 3
lose 6
lose 6

You are down 18 units now start betting 2 units instead of 1 unit and maybe something like this happens

win 6
win 6 
lose 12
win 6
lose 12
win 6
win 6
win 6
win 6

So you win 18 units and you are even and now go back to start betting 1 unit.

Most people who seriously bet on baccarat , roulette, sports , soccer(football),  basketball, american football  baseball etc etc eventually come to the conclusion that just like starting any other business, you will need a big bankroll to succeed in the long run, and of course "big" is a relative term depending on how much you will bet and what type of conservative or aggressive money management plan you will use to handle the inevitable adversity which will occur.   

Best example is if you are an owner of a restaurant during the current pandemic, the restaurant with a large amount of capital ( bankroll) has a much better chance of staying in business until the pandemic is over than the restaurant owner who has very little capital(bankroll) to support his business.

Whether you are selling pizza or tacos or betting on the yankees in baseball or manchester unitited in soccer ( football ) or the lakers in basketball or player or banker in baccarat or red or black or streets in roulette...................if you are not sufficiently capitalized (bankroll), it will be extremely difficult for you to be successful....this is especially true of people who try to make a living playing poker......playing poker games where the bet size is too large for your bankroll will eventually wipe you out due to the extreme variance in profits and losses playing poker...................and eventually you will come to realize that your ultimate success or failure in poker is not your skill level and experience but the other people you are playing against......if everyone at the table has the general same skill level and experience as you, in the long run, the money just travels  around the table and the rake and dealer tips and bad beat jackpot contributions and your personal expenses, ( rent, food, car expenses, insurance etc etc ) will eventually bankrupt you. If you can not play against other opponents where you are a better more experienced poker player, you will eventually lose.

However, most people are only recreational gamblers so it really does not matter how much bankroll you have, or how much you bet.

Great post!  Too much common sense mixed with reality, most people cannot relate to it.  As most are internet recreational only these days, IMO.

The 2s and 3s are the best and most outstanding for the player to capitalize on.  However most all players fall to their belief at the table, once they start winning they will continue.  They virtually all get sucked in. No matter the size of their bankroll they lose it to the casino,

[8OR9]

Great post!  Too much common sense mixed with reality, most people cannot relate to it.  As most are internet recreational only these days, IMO.

The 2s and 3s are the best and most outstanding for the player to capitalize on.  However most all players fall to their belief at the table, once they start winning they will continue.  They virtually all get sucked in. No matter the size of their bankroll they lose it to the casino,

I call this surrendering to the all powerful C.E...............which means the Casino Environment...which is the entire atmosphere designed by the casino to create an alternate reality ..........thousands of dollars in the dealer tray which  are there for your easy winnings (NOT).................no windows to look at the real world............no clocks..................lots of "action", noise , people yelling at craps tables, attractive cocktail waitresses, attractive dealers, and the greatest invention of all time........using chips instead of actual money so it appears that you are not losing real money for you mortgage payment, your children's college trust fund,   food,   car payment etc etc

Casinos are the best example of Yin and Yang......the Yin is the thousands of jobs the casinos create which provide their employees with a decent middle class income (pre-COVID of course) and the Yang is the 5% to 10% of their customers with addictive personalities who lose their life savings. house, boats, cars, business etc etc. 

If you look at everything in life, there is a Yin and Yang......alive and dead, rich and poor, healthy and sick, north pole and south pole, positive and negative charges on a battery, lies and truth, cheap and generous, fast and slow, tall and short, beautiful and ugly,  hot and cold etc etc etc

[Lungyeh]

Merry Christmas to everyone and happy holidays; especially to Glen for hosting this forum.

Stay blessed; you and yours and may the good Lord bring you and your family good tidings for 2021!!

[Babu]

A treat perhaps?  I ran into a person that recommended this channel. I have seen countless videos from channels that claims they have the ultimate bet selection. I can tell most of them were just uploading videos of winning sessions. When I ask for live stream, all the channels end up shutting down. This could be the same case but this person explains the the reason for the selection.  I'm so amazed by how accurate it is.  I've seen several of the videos but since I don't understand the derived roads, I really don't understand what he is doing. Anyone wants to investigate?

I don't believe how predictions can be made with very few results or even if there is a lot of results. My own system is a little difficult to run. If this is really this good, I'm ready to drop mine and go for this. Just to make it clear, I'm not promoting this or believe in the membership that he has just decided to offer.  I figure if he has already revealed everything, why is there a need for membership. 

I've tried understanding the derived roads but fail to understand it after several attempts to understand it throughout the years.


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[Garfield]

@babu: that guy only suggested to follow trend on derived roads.... don't get confusing on how the derived roads is formed....every casino would have the prediction showed automatically...

Like usual, each will have their own perception seeing the same configuration so it's kinda subjective.... And I still didn't get why he could determine that particular trend is stronger than other.... I guess he will explain it after you enter his course...

[Babu]

Thanks Garfield! Some casinos actually turns them off.  I actually prefer that because I can see the main road better. I've had friends tell me they were winning for weeks using the prediction from the derived roads, that is until i told them that it doesn't really mean what they think it means.  After that they would lose everything and blame me for jinxing.

When I've kept records of the number of correct hands I can guess right in a row two years ago, I recorded 14 straight wins in a row.  That is not following any streaks or chops. It was also subjective predictions.  He base it on interception of all the derived roads against the main road.  I sued to do the same with the beads block and main road, Which I find are decently accurate.  But we all knows anything subjective will no longer be good at some point. Just got a reply back from him saying he won't do live streams.

The person I ran into only uses the cockroad road. She claims to have won since August of last year. The money management occasionaly ups a unit and not any step Marty.  A two step if you wish to interpret it.

My system requires really long hours of play, at least 6 shoes for a decent win and determining win margins.  That is just a lot of work and can't easily be done in many casino scenarios. I've been able to get it to work online with the help of automated Excel sheets but I only plan on playing online until the casinos open up.