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[alrelax]

Live shoe and we just hit almost all the players in the beginning for 1k to 2k per hand then my buddy and I caught the 8 players and all the bankers at the end, great shoe but all the rest wagered the cut and missed it all!!!  [attachimg=1]

[alrelax]

If you didn't notice no fortune 7s and only two ties whole shoe .   

We played another shoe, dragged on real slow.  Everyone had a problem, a fight and they had to call the cameras at least a half dozen times and stop the game.  Was not as good as the first one, but won about 15  plus hands on all chop-chop, sheer banker-player-banker-player for about 15 or so times. 

The floor manager let me take a pic of the first shoe but not the second one.  We won cause we stuck with what the shoe was dishing out.  We caught most of the 3 to 4 B's and P's and then played the cut and won.  Absolutely great tonight, love it.  Later.......

[Jimske]

Live shoe and we just hit almost all the players in the beginning for 1k to 2k per hand then my buddy and I caught the 8 players and all the bankers at the end, great shoe but all the rest wagered the cut and missed it all!!!  [attachimg=1]

So that was like a 15 or 20 unit win based on 1k per unit?

[alrelax]

So that was like a 15 or 20 unit win based on 1k per unit?

$200-$400 then half way through the strong players at the start we went to $1,000 then won 3 and the remainder of our bets were between $1,000 and $2,000 for the remaining and we won well over 25 wagers each.  Caught the players in the beginning and a bunch of the 3 or 4s and cut and we both caught the 8 and out and the immediate 8 and out next to it at the end.

I took them for $26k and my buddy took them for $39k.  My buddy picked up the score card that we were writing on marking our wins or losses and I'll see if he still has it I'll shoot a picture of it later and post it sleeping in separate rooms and we got a huge breakfast planned over here as we are way out at a rural Resort.....

[alrelax]

Here is the card my buddy had from last night.

A f*ucking awesome shoe, my buddy pumped it up like there was no tomorrow and had table largest winning in quite some time at this casino.  We actually emptied all the dealers Pinks, blacks, greens and had to stop the game until security and the floor manager came with an emergency supply they robbed from another table nearby that was closed down.  On the last run of 8 Bankers followed immediately by 8 Players, the rack had approx. $150k taken out of it by the players.

I will tell you, the last 2 runs of 8@ followed by 5 bankers almost did not have the players winning anything.  Because, everyone at the table was convinced in their own stubborn way the shoe was fizzling out, which in many times (so many) the shoe actually does when in the beginning or the first half it is relatively strong and then cuts to a chop-chop production as it did around hand 65 after it made the 4 chop.  My buddies reasoning was, 'all 5 chops were '0' for the losing side, I think a players had a 1-0, then a bankers had an 0-8, the a player had an 8-0, then a banker had a 0-7, the a player had a 7-0 for the final numbers each hand.  He goes, pump it up.  I had about $300 or $400 out and he had $1,500 (3 pinks) I remember.  He grabs a stack of my green and put 2 stacks up there of $500 each giving me about a $1,300/$1,400 wager.  I didn't feel it, seriously--no feeling and I didn't want to wager it.  He insisted.  He stop the game.  here is the thing, this is my buddy from NYC, the retired NYCPD elite special unit officer.  He is outspoken and loud.  We are in the Midwest here, he sticks out like a sore thumb bandaged in neon pink.  He tells everyone at the table to pump it up and he insists.  I am sitting there shaking my head big time.  He is thinking the 100% thought of positive thinking.  You know the way the Asians are, the are slamming their chips down and telling the dealer not to let them down and all that.  And then boom, boom, boom, 8 in a row.  We all stayed together, huge camaraderie I have not seen in a while around these parts!  Then we all lose the last hand when it fell off of course.  We all made thousand on that run.  Everyone is in the pit, the casino manager, the two floor managers, security and tribal staff as well.  After it made the first players, my buddy had the same enthusiasm and motivation once again.  No one wanted on it.  He forced them all, literally held the game up until they were all on it.  And then boom, boom, boom, and another 8 to match the just finished run of the opposite side of 8.  Fell off right after the 8th one, classic!  The dealer rack lost everything to us, over $150k easily.  Everyone was nearly table max or at least well over $1,000 each. 

The dealer had to pull the shoe in at one point because the dealer only had some white and red left, everything was gone.  The floor manager called over security and they opened up a nearby table that was closed and robbed all it's chips and brought them over for the dealer. 

I believe my tally is right, I wagered 38 times and lost 10 of those. 

[alrelax]

Card resized, hopefully this will shrink it so you can see it easier.

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[alrelax]

Here is the live B&M bac board at the table.  I resized the pic for a better fit now.


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[alrelax]

The shoe had a little bit of everything in it.  'Completed Boxes', runs-chops-cuts, etc.  If you truly open you mind up to the way I wrote in detail and depth in my Blog and elsewhere on this board--you will see how to capitalize on what is being presented instead of fighting it, trying to get it to change to your pre-set conceived system, or being so frustrated you can not see clearly.

And I am serious, I don't stay at the casino after something like this--attempting for repeating history, it came and went--there will be more but a player never knows when they surface.

I tried to tell you all--reset, forget-reset and play like you are playing what is in front of you, not what the previous shoe and your previous experiences were with what the instant shoe is producing.  That is the key thing--'you have to see the game as it is being presented'.  Someone else said that the other day on this board--that is so vitally important, you need to remain conscious of it.  If I did not--I would have won a few hundred on this shoe--probably not more than $1,000 at most!   

We stayed in the casino for a bit after this shoe and started the next.  Then we left.  We had a few drinks and went to the lounge.  We went up to the rooms, watched some TV and talked about NYC, old times and Kojack what we enjoy.  We woke up this morning, ate huge and went down to the casino where most of those from last night were playing.  At least three of them lost it all back, the shoe they were into was pretty good but fizzled quickly.  They keep subjecting themselves to being grinded down and being submissive.  Sad.  But it is what it is.

[ADulay]

The shoe had a little bit of everything in it.

Alrelax,

  That shoe had a little bit of everything in it that VDW loves and surprisingly, the TUBS play just hates.

  VDW +21 Flat betting.
  TUBS -5 if you stop halfway through with a loss or -8 if you run it all the way to the end.

  I'm thinking that TUBS needs "Version 3" published real soon.

  AD

[alrelax]

Alrelax,

  That shoe had a little bit of everything in it that VDW loves and surprisingly, the TUBS play just hates.


  VDW +21 Flat betting.
  TUBS -5 if you stop halfway through with a loss or -8 if you run it all the way to the end.

  I'm thinking that TUBS needs "Version 3" published real soon.

  AD

yes ad that shoe sure had a bit of everything and I'll tell you if it wasn't for my buddy I wouldn't have made the money that I made cuz I didn't see it when it was happening maybe I would have caught the end and I can't say honestly that I would have because I would have probably thought it would have fizzle out but you really need to have the clearest mind and the most open mind as I've been saying and be able to recognize things as they're happening which is not easy especially in the casino setting with everybody hitting your shoulders asking you and telling you to do such and such and selling soul and what's going to happen then normally you get a little bit of positive but mostly it's the negative and it throws you off in your way of thinking way off least in my opinion

[21 Aces]

What is the definition of Fortune 7 and Dragon?

DEQ Systems EZ Baccarat has Dragon as 3 card 7 Bank wins which pays 40 to 1, Panda 3 card 8 with Player wins which pays 25 to 1, and Tie which pays 8 to 1.  Many types of high payout bets.



Thanks.

[alrelax]

correCt DEQ is a brand. it is no Commission and it Fortune 7 is when the third card wins on the banker with a total of 7 points. there is no dragon bonus which used to be on that particular layout but they're replacing the dragon bonus with panda 8. with this particular brand panda eight is optional.  Dragon bonus is anywhere from 1 to 1 payout up 30 to 1. the definition of dragon bonus is when you win by 4 points or greater and there would be a sliding scale for the payout on either side but to the best of my knowledge once they added panda  8 they take away the dragon bonus which they're doing on that particular board even though it's not doesn't say yet on the scoreboard.

[Jimske]

That was a great win Alrelax.  Reason I asked unit wins is because it was a good shoe by way of follow the shoe standards.  So naturally if one wins some base units and then bumps up 5 times their base and continue to win well. . . people do that all the time and end up with nothing or worse, loser.

It was mentioned that the shoe gave a little bit of everything.  If you look at average runs the shoe had a severe dearth of runs of 1 and 2.  A hard shoe to lose IMO.  NOR/S40, for example would win that shoe easily.  Sputnik would immediately pick out the LC and MC and wipe up.

My follow strategy kills that shoe with no changes.  Simply follow runs to lose and follow chops to lose will win EVERY shoe with a neg. prog 12 as long as 1's are consistent OR there is an extreme dearth of 1's.  Consistent 1's means if they stay multiple chop or stay solo 1's.  Of course, the 1's many times don't so therein lies the Achilles heel which then requires modifications as you play it. 

So, as some of you know I often play effery hand.  This is how I start the shoe when I play folow.  I start "follow the shoe" as usual and in this shoe there is never a reason to switch.  So I post the shoe – hope I copied the results correctly.  To explain further and to show nemesis I attached another I played years ago.  Starts out fine but.

(I can't figure out how to put the shoes inline.  If someone can do it go ahead.

[alrelax]

That was a great win Alrelax.  Reason I asked unit wins is because it was a good shoe by way of follow the shoe standards.  So naturally if one wins some base units and then bumps up 5 times their base and continue to win well. . . people do that all the time and end up with nothing or worse, loser.

It was mentioned that the shoe gave a little bit of everything.  If you look at average runs the shoe had a severe dearth of runs of 1 and 2.  A hard shoe to lose IMO.  NOR/S40, for example would win that shoe easily.  Sputnik would immediately pick out the LC and MC and wipe up.

My follow strategy kills that shoe with no changes.  Simply follow runs to lose and follow chops to lose will win EVERY shoe with a neg. prog 12 as long as 1's are consistent OR there is an extreme dearth of 1's.  Consistent 1's means if they stay multiple chop or stay solo 1's.  Of course, the 1's many times don't so therein lies the Achilles heel which then requires modifications as you play it. 

So, as some of you know I often play effery hand.  This is how I start the shoe when I play folow.  I start "follow the shoe" as usual and in this shoe there is never a reason to switch.  So I post the shoe – hope I copied the results correctly.  To explain further and to show nemesis I attached another I played years ago.  Starts out fine but.

(I can't figure out how to put the shoes inline.  If someone can do it go ahead.

The following statement is correct, so correct it is eerie, but spot on. " So naturally if one wins some base units and then bumps up 5 times their base and continue to win well. . . people do that all the time and end up with nothing or worse, loser." 

However, we did use some reasoning and I will try to explain most of the step we used later today.  And yes--sometimes those decisions do not work and will fail and other times they do.  Everything just merged and it was easy pickings.  Those that initially started that shoe and wagered against it were losing big time.  Go with it and make huge wins, go against it and have huge losses, pick a few select wagers and prevail and stop.  All those would have been true and then on other shoes you could do the exact opposite to prevail or lose. 

However, I have certain triggers and tricks that seem to benefit me with a huge control factor (98%) of the time I employ if I lose or win.  Lose I walk without re-buying in and wins I employ my 1/3rd money management system that fuels me beyond belief. 

Later today I will dissect most of that shoe and cite our decisions we made prior to each hand for the ones I can recall.  Thanks.

[ADulay]

(I can't figure out how to put the shoes inline.  If someone can do it go ahead.

My good deed for the day.
AD