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#### Ehtelgaeb

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##### Re: A Maths approach to Baccarat
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2019, 08:01:44 pm »
• Ehtlelbaeg, - it was a typo on his part.  He meant column 1 and 3.

I'll let Lugi tell you why your way will occur more than the 1/128 from possible combinations.

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Thanks Jimske. That really makes things a little clearer.

#### Lugi

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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2019, 09:50:42 pm »
• Thanks Jim, it was a typo.

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Now, it would appear to me that if you had two columns or rows that were opposites through the first 4 hands you could bet the same as the first column as opposed to betting the opposite on the last 3 hands.

PB
BP
BP
PB
Bx
By
Pz

Where x=B, y=B and z=P if necessary.

You could do I suppose, but that is a different game from having 128 balls in a bag and not pulling out the same one in x amount of trials. Granted, I appreciate the opposite of the last ball should be as equally less likely as the current 128/1 ball. Might be worth considering if your in dire need of a reason to bet.

Having said that.

For sure, "betting the opposite" or " the same as" the prior column are different strategies.  I will confess if I see an entire column the 'same as' or 'opposite of' it's prior column, I will bet whichever won't continue into the 3rd column.  But I stress, this occurs so infrequently, that it is not even worth tracking, like maybe once per 300 shoes.  When it does occur, you still have to bet the table minimum for the first few bets regardless of the situation of your bankroll, because you are risking 7 bets to win 1.  But it comes up so infrequently, in all honesty not worth considering.
Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

#### ChopChop

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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2019, 06:20:47 am »
• So if I understand this, once a match of 4 in a column occurs, you're betting the opposite of the next 3 in the matching column.

My question is, are we doing the same for rows? In other words, betting 3 more times the opposite of the matching row, or just one time.

#### Lugi

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2019, 07:58:31 am »
• You bet Rows won't mirror any other prior Row for 3 attempts.
However if you are not losing, i.e have offset Row losses with Column Wins, it is a personal choice to go beyond 3 attempts.

Everything is laid out in the thread. Common sense should prevail.
Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

#### ChopChop

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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2019, 05:37:39 am »
• What takes precedence, columns or rows? Say you've been betting the rows and all of a sudden you get a column match.   And they conflict, do you jump on the column opposites, or stay on the row opposites?

#### Lugi

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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2019, 05:52:35 am »
• Doesn't matter, make a judgement call, or even no-bet, you would have a bet next time around regardless. Nothing is set in stone, at the table, we are not robots.
Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

#### Baelog

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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2019, 12:38:53 am »
• Hi Jimske,

I am unable to answer your message (it tells me you have it blocked). I have only ran some shoes with good results. I?ll be glad to share when I have some more results.

Thanks
Baelog
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#### Lugi

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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2019, 01:14:48 pm »
• Hi Jimske,

I am unable to answer your message (it tells me you have it blocked). I have only ran some shoes with good results. I?ll be glad to share when I have some more results.

Thanks
Baelog

Sounds good....
Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

#### Lugi

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##### Re: A Maths approach to Baccarat
« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 10:51:16 am »

Word of Warning

Was mooching bout on my PC and came across this 'abnormal' shoe, 46 Bankers 19 Player.

So I applied this math approach to this particular shoe, here are the results.

Maths is great like that.  Once it's been proven that no method exists to do what you claim, it's not necessary to go through the details of your system to prove that it doesn't work.  You claim that it does something which can be proven impossible, therefore your claim is false. The details don't matter.

#### alrelax

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« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 01:05:43 pm »
• Absolutely, happens.  And generally when it happens most players do not follow it or even believe it, they turn to a state of awe.  What I witness is heavier wagering on the opposite side to equal out or at least start its catch up path.  However, that does not always come about and the frustration and emotional levels increase 10 fold easily.

I saw a 50 something Banker to a 20 something Player shoe a few weeks ago.  I could not take a picture of the board due to the big shots of the casino management there but I did write down most of the hand values and the order they came out in.  Once I found it, I will post it.

Everyone started to win pretty well on the Banker and then most everyone was hell-bent on wagering the Player and went heavier and heavier on it.  There was an abundant number of naturals on both sides as well as an unusually high count of naturals on both sides at the same time.  Usually only a few in each shoe, but this one had maybe 15 of them, at least a dozen plus.

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