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[alrelax]

Have not been to a casino in almost 2 weeks and one of the other member's of the board bugged me to go last night.  We played 2 shoes.  The first one lost in the first half and recouped to even, a tad bit up in the very end.  Everything was against what I saw, thought and felt.  I actually blamed it on not really wanting to go play.  But the next shoe was FANTASTIC and OVER THE TOP GREAT. 

Started out with lots of naturals, no ties and more classical triggers I have talked about, wrote about and preached for years.  I went heavy and I urged my acquaintance to do the same. 

Here is a snap shot of almost the end of the shoe, maybe minus 5 or 6 hands or so. 

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SECTION A:  The first 7 Bankers were all Naturals.  In fact, I think out of the 7, there were 5 Natural 8s for the Players whereas the Bankers had a Natural 9 each time.  Then where you see the 6 Players it was reversed and the Bankers had at least 3 Natural 8s and the Players had Natural 9s.  The 2 non Natural hands in the middle of those 6 Player hands, were Players first two cards a total of 1 and the Bankers having less than 5, the Players third card a face or 10 and the Bankers third card reducing the Bankers to zero each time. 

IMPORTANT NOTE:  I told my buddy, note the zero ties and the Natural cutting.  Although in Section A (the beginning I was not a yet a firm believer in the Natural to CUT trend starting) but and a HUGE BUT, I have for the longest time witnessed the Natural being the last of or near the last of something appearing.

SECTION B:  Then Section B came.  After the first 2 Naturals cut, I sad out loud and wrote it on the manual scorecard in front of us, NATURALS CUT!!! WAGER HEAVY!  I wrote those 4 words on our card.  And we both started doing exactly that. 

Still no ties (until hand 28) and that was a 3 card 9 tie with a 9-9 by the way.  1s and 2s  a semi-strong first Section A.  Again, I have preached, wrote about and talked countless times about 0-1-2 or 3 ties dictating the shoe to remain strong, weak, choppy, etc., in other words--presenting defined Sections of whatever.  And this one was doing exactly that to the TEE! 

The first Player hand in Section B that did not cut (and we lost on the Cut Wager) was the one at the end of Section B with the one additional Player win appearing.  Please NOTE:  The very event itself was matched by the 3 Bankers in the start of Section C with one additional Banker win as well.

NOTE:  Not a second tie all the way until hand 53.  And the shoe stayed extremely consistent in most everything.  We made ourselves conscious of this and we wagered according to that.  Not what most others were saying out loud about getting strong or weak or ties having to appear which the others at the table were in fact wagering extremely heavy on, LOL. 

SECTION D:  The 5 Players without a single Natural threw us all.  And every one of those hands looked like that classic Banker Will Win The Hand With First 2 Cards presentment thing.  But no way, the Player prevailed each time.  Hands such as Players first 2 cards showing a 5 and the Bankers first 2 cards showing a 6 and the Players pull a 6 and the Bankers pull a 4 to finish the hand at Players=1 and Bankers 0.  Or, the Players first 2 cards showing total of 2 and the Bankers first 2 cards showing a total of 1 and the Players pull a face card and the Bankers pull other face card as well.

SECTION E:  We only wagered for the Cut after a Natural.  We wagered that trigger a total of 8 times and we won 7 of those wagers.  Table Max each and every time.  We stuck with it.  >>>I admit, against what we really wanted to do.  I know looking at this card without being there in person, you would say this is easy and if you thought different at the time, you are inexperienced and stupid.  But believe me, maybe those experienced players can comment?  It was not easy, even when winning.  You always have that overwhelming dilemma, IT WILL NOT LAST and if you wager heavy you lose big or you fail to win heavy, thing repeating itself over and over in your head before the hands come out each and every time. 

There were only 2 ties the entire shoe.  Please remember what I say, write about and preach about 0-1-2-3 Ties dictating the shoe and/or Sections to remain constant, whether weak, complete chop or strong or clusters, etc.  More often than not, it does.  Might not be for the entire shoe but at least for the first half or 60-75%, etc. This shoe was the entire shoe. 

F-7s Fortune 7s 40 to1 Payout. There were 3 F7s.  I will circle them and reprint the picture below.  Hand 27 right before the first Tie.  Hand 46, the top of the 4 Bankers.  Hand 64 was the 3rd one. Two times out of the three, cutting to the Players for the next win and both times with a Player Natural taking the hand.  In my experience, this is another great wager no mater if you wagered the Banker or the Fortune 7 and won it, the Cut to the Player after a Fortune 7 appearing. 

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Out of the 11 times we both wagered table max for the Banker to win after a Player Natural, we won 10 of those.  I will tell you (I ADMIT) it was extremely difficult to follow what we saw, what we said, what we started to win with.  In all of my years playing, this is not an easy task, especially with the point values of the majority of the hands and how that was always pointing to something else. In fact we were taking such a large volume of chips from the dealers rack there was several suits called into the pit to observe the game about half way through to the very end. 

One the home we both talked about another aspect of the shoe, we only capitalized on it twice and then stopped wagering for it because we thought it would not appear again, etc. Which was the Dragon Bonus, where it pays out up to 30 to 1 Payout for the winning hand prevailing with so many points in and above the losing hand, etc.  There were many Dragon Bonuses in this shoe other than the 1 to 1, the 2 to 1, the 4 to 1, etc., I am talking about the 10 to 1 for the winning by 8 points and the 30 to 1 for the winning by 9 points.  The 8 and 9 point, 3 card wins, were well over 10 times.  And a lot of those wins by the 3rd card flop causing the winning side to win by 8 or 9 points, were within Section B-C & D prior to those 5 non natural Players in a row.

One other thing we discussed that stood out and we did not catch it until that little cluster of 5 non-natural Players in a row, was every time there were 2 or more of anything in a row, there was a natural present.  Except for the 2 Bankers back to back, 2 times (Hands 23 & 24 and Hands 52 & 53).  Every other Player or Banker 2 or more in a row, had a natural within them.  EXCEPT for those 5 Players.  When that 5 Players was over, we looked at it, stood up, pointed at the score board and said out loud what we saw.  Again, reason to not wager heavy, it is going to change way of thinking.  Or, if we change the way we are wagering we are attempting to change the shoe and wish for something else way of thinking.  But we did not and it went right back to the exact way it was presenting itself for the majority of Section E.   

[alrelax]

And please keep this straight, when it works it works.

Problem being, as I always said and many of the forum heavy redundant posters love to twist and turn other's words around. I never ever said or subscribed to a definitive scheduled trigger wager and/or system to recover or recoup lost wagered amounts. Never.

It does not matter how you win but repetitive wins on any kind of basis doing the same type of wagering will not be from the same triggers that were positive for the person, shoe after shoe, session after session, so on and so forth.  NEVER on an on going basis.

You can run through every system there is out there, every analyzer, every set of statistics and all the rest of it and you're never ever going to come up on a consistent scheduled trigger in baccarat that's going to produce great results on a redundant type of basis.

When it is there, it is there and I've written about it many times.  About the emotional and the inner feelings that cause us to lose more than we win or give back the winnings and keep trying because something started to work and then it fizzled out.  Our egotistical minds keep up the pursuit of what we wanted to happen that was not going to happen.  Simple, but at the table most people cannot say what I just said in the previous sentence and be conscious of it and wager by it.

I'm trying to Define how to sit at the table and see with clear and conscious thought what is being presented and how to interpret and wager on just that. 

[Garfield]

Nice post, detailed and informational....

[AsymBacGuy]

Very nice description, I like it!

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