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[Natural 9]

Yesterday, I played alongside 2 Koreans at Resorts World. What intrigued me was their strategy. They will bet against a 7 in a row Repeat using Martingale. 

I don't know how deep their Marty (5...6...7...levels deep) was but let me tell you what they did on our table.

We have a 7-iar after 25 hands. When everybody was excited about the possibility of a long streak, these 2 Koreans did the reverse --- they bet against the streak. 

The streak was on Player side so everybody was hyped about what was happening at the moment. No need to be concern about the 50% take on Banker bets winning on 6.

I seldom follow also a streak on Repeats but I neither bet against it. So after winning my 5th & 7th bets on this streaking Repeat, I waited.

On Play 26, almost everybody was betting on Player side anticipating a very long streak.

These 2 Koreans bet USD100 on Banker side. Tension started to build up. 

When the cards were squeezed --- Player got 7, Banker got 6. Player wins by natural death on Banker bet. 

On Play 27, almost everybody again bet on the Player side including me.

Again, these 2 Koreans bet USD200 on Banker side doubling their bets to recoup their losses. Action-Reactions could be seen on both sides. 

When the cards were squeezed --- Player got 5, Banker got 4. Player side hits the 3rd card and everybody yelled --- "Picture!" And yes, indeed. Again, natural death on Banker bet. 

On Play 28, almost everybody again bet on the Player side including me. Imagine the euphoric feeling of being able to follow this Player streak.

Again, these 2 Koreans bet USD400 on Banker side doubling their bets again to recoup their losses. 

When the final cards were suqeezed --- Player got 3, Banker got 6. Player side hits the 3rd card and everybody yelled --- "2-sides!" But it was 3-sides. The next yell --- "Get 6!" And 6 indeed! But of course, there was a third card for Banker. So, Banker hits, and the Koreans got the chance to squeeze again. They yelled, "No Line!" And they got what they wish for. Everybody became silent at this point. Tension was all over. But when the Korean threw the final card, it was an Ace. Still, the Player side won with 9 against 7 of the Banker side. 

There's euphoria at this point for those who were able to follow the Player streak. Regrets to those who were not able to follow.

But the intriguing part was, these 2 Koreans were still composed and pulled out an USD800 bills, gave it to the dealer and have it converted to playing chips. 

On Play 29, I bet you already know the scenario.

Again, these 2 Koreans bet USD800 on Banker side doubling their bets again to recoup their losses.   

But this time, tension was high.

When the cards were squeezed --- Player got 8 and will stand. At this point, everybody was yelling. Banker side got two 4-lines. The first card was a 10. So, the Koreans have another chance to get 9. As the Korean was squeezing the card, you will feel the tension was very high. A 9 will end the streak. Finally, the Korean threw the card and it was a 10! Imagine, the euphoria of all the people over that table.

The 2 Koreans still composed, again pulled out an USD1,600 bills, gave it to the dealer and have it converted to playing chips. 

On Play 30, again, I bet you already know the scenario.

Again, these 2 Koreans bet USD1,600 on Banker side doubling their bets again to recoup their losses.   

This time, the tension was very high.

When the cards were squeezed --- Player side got nothing (zero). Two cards for the Banker side. First card was a Jack. Second card was a 4-line. You can hear at the back somebody whispering a 10 but the final Banker card turned out to be a 9. Banker side won with 9 against zero for Player side. Natural death for the Player side. What a way to end the streak with nothing on Player side. 

Looking at these 2 Koreans, still very much composed as if they knew they will get the 9 (or the kill) eventually. 

After the dealer paid their winnings, they left the table. 

To sum up, the Koreans used a 5-Step Marty against a 7-iar Player streak on Repeats. And quit once they recoup everything plus profit.     

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When I played my third game for the day, these same Koreans sat down and bet against another 7-iar Repeats only this time it was on Banker side.

But this time, the streak on Banker side lasted only 9-iar so the Koreans won everything and profitted after the 10th try against the streaking Banker side.

This time, they only needed a 3-Step Marty. After the win, they left again the table.     

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Now, I got two questions to those who wanted to have a sensible discussion out here:

1. In your recent baccarat games, how many times did you encounter at least 12 streaks of Repeat?

2. Do you think this can be one of the strategies you can employ over that baccarat tables?

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I'm looking at my previous baccarat games this year, last year, and the past years to see if this will be feasible on one's baccarat plays.

You can share your stats if you want to.




Natural 9   





 

[WorldBaccaratKing]

I thought you and Alvin were making 50k a day with your holy grail? Why worry about 12iar? You have the grail already!

Also, when everyone asked you for info about the holy grail you didn't give anyone squat.

I wouldn't help you if you were the last guy on eàrth. Love jokers like you.

You and Ellis are just about the same on the good chain. Right at the bottom with the scalliwags.

[Natural 9]

I thought you and Alvin were making 50k a day with your holy grail? Why worry about 12iar? You have the grail already!

Also, when everyone asked you for info about the holy grail you didn't give anyone squat.

I wouldn't help you if you were the last guy on eàrth. Love jokers like you.

You and Ellis are just about the same on the good chain. Right at the bottom with the scalliwags.

Here we go again.   

My stalker has been re-activated. 

Who says I need your help? 

I'm doing very well with my baccarat plays under the guidance of Alvin Tuarez. 

If you cannot make a sensible discussion, DO NOT POST on my thread. You're not welcome here.   

I will not delete your post so members and non-members on this forum will see how you make a fool out of yourself. [smiley]aes/lol.png[/smiley] 



Natural 9 

[ADulay]

I thought you and Alvin were making 50k a day with your holy grail? Why worry about 12iar? You have the grail already!

Also, when everyone asked you for info about the holy grail you didn't give anyone squat.

I wouldn't help you if you were the last guy on eàrth. Love jokers like you.

You and Ellis are just about the same on the good chain. Right at the bottom with the scalliwags.

Really?  Is that called for?

Anything constructive that you can add to this conversation or just your usual tripe?

AD

[ezmark]

Natrual9
No, I wouldn't use a marty after 7 iar . for three reasons.'
1. Its still a breakeven long term system.
2. Small bets wouldn't be worth the table time.
3. Large bets will be stopped by bankroll or table max.
It will happen.
One of my stories. Once, while playing the wheel,  I bet Both outside rows.
Four times in a row the middle row won. 

[Rolex-Watch]

Stupidity on many accounts.  "Yeah let's Martingale the Bank on a Banker 6 half price game and don't stop until we either go broke or hit the table limit".

Firstly, ditch the Martingale, impending disaster, at the very least least switch to a Fibonacci, you should be in for the long haul not a short ride (I used neither)....

Secondly, stop betting after X amount of losses, could be 3 could be 4, don't let that one single monster streak take you to the cleaners, there will be other buses along that you can ride.

Thirdly, Betting "AS" anti-streak, absolutely nothing wrong with that strategy at all and it ain't the pittboss or system 40 method either.  If anybodies, then this is how I started playing back in 2004 and as mentioned on the famous GamblerGlen site and how I am basically currently playing on-line!!!!   

The game is all about money management, so you should expect to see the odd streak that goes beyond 10, when it happens, it shouldn't send you broke, rather only result in some mild curses (assuming we are allowed to curse when risking our had earned cash)?       

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Why would you even care about any other system when you have the holy grail? Delete my posts what do I care!!!!

Your a fraud and have been called out.......

[Lung Yeh]

When I sense a trend (the trend is your friend) and it could be from the 3 or 4 th Player, I place what I call a Starting Hot Phase Bet (SHPB) which is a certain multiple of a single bet. The progression goes - 1 SHPB, 1/2 SHPB, 1 SHPB, 1.5 SHPB, 1.5 SHPB, 2.5 SHPB, 2.5 SHPB, 4 SHPB, 4, 4, 4 until the trend changes. So if it goes on, I make and I don't mind losing the last bet when the trend changes. The last bet could be orgasmic for the party making an anti-trend bet but who cares? I will be the one making multiple returns. It's less stressful to follow the trend then to do Martingale and risk losing multiples for a single bet win.

[Rolex-Watch]

When I sense a trend (the trend is your friend)

It's less stressful to follow the trend then to do Martingale and risk losing multiples for a single bet win.

There is no such thing as sensing a trend, it is simply a guess and only exists in your mind.  All you are doing is anthropomorphizing the game, it has no logical or rational reasoning.

Too many times I've placed a feeler bet for FLD or OLD because that was the shoe was doing, only for chops to end, have another bite, ops it's gone to three, now what, continue betting against the streak, are you committed due to losing two bets?  Ditto FLD

BB
PPPPPPPPPP
BBBBBB
P  < bet P, nope it now chops, chops follow streaks (yes), oops the chops were short
BB ?
P
B
PP  < Christ

BB
PP
B  < oo-er repeating two's, quick jump on them
P < oops, okay, nothing over three, bet opposite  P, bet opposite again, P and you wonder why you lose??  Go get yourself a superior way to approach the game and stop playing like the casino want you to play!!!!!!

It's less stressful to follow the trend then to do Martingale and risk losing multiples for a single bet win.

I guess so.

[RouletteKEY]

Firstly, ditch the Martingale, impending disaster, at the very least least switch to a Fibonacci, you should be in for the long haul not a short ride (I used neither)....

Secondly, stop betting after X amount of losses, could be 3 could be 4, don't let that one single monster streak take you to the cleaners,

Absolutely the best advice on this thread and it transfers to almost all forms of gambling...I prefer roulette but baccarat is number two for me and fibo is my favorite in almost all cases and short attacks are always in favor...if I go down in flames it will be because 10 separate attacks failed and I will still have bankroll because I have a well thought out plan and am funded to survive the drought as I suspect Rolex Watch and a few others here do as well.

[Rolex-Watch]

if I go down in flames it will be because 10 separate attacks failed

The smart way of approaching it.  During my participation in this thread, I was mainly playing "AS3", I got hit by a 10 streak, due to loss of discpline I only stopped on the 10th decision, thereby losing 7IAR, a bit of a ball-ache, but it didn't clean me out (I was running 3 separate progressions) , just gave me a bit of mental stress, I recouped and made a decent profit at the end of it all.

[Rolex-Watch]

Yesterday, I played alongside 2 Koreans at Resorts World.

Well, I will be in Singapore in few weeks, Resort World or MBS, probably both!!  We could say hello and you could demo "Alvin's method", any other Singapore based members on this forum :-)


On another note, anybody remember that guy in Singapore that ran the seminars and walked around the tables telling people which side to bet.  A major  scammer, who ripped off a lot of locals, who exposed him all over the web and tried to prosecute him. I can't recall his name, but when I was in the Club in Jupiters, some Chinese guy approached me and tried to sell me his system, the cheeky b@$t@rd.  Gob-smacked, the guy has tentacles everywhere, I wonder if he is Alvin?  I felt like telling the guy who approached me, who I am and how many scammers I've upset over the last ten years, I said I've heard of him and the number of people he has ripped off and left it at that, staggering...   

[AsymBacGuy]

Theorically this procedure isn't so bad, because unlike roulette longer streaks won't suffer from a steady perfect 50/50 ratio.

Actually and assuming a 7 term martingale, the probability to get a 14+ P streak after a 7 P streak is lower than the expected 1/128 ratio.
Unfortunately itlr the vig will tend to cut off this edge and it's not for everyone to accept a 127 units loss in the unfortunate event to dig into a 14+ P streak.
Same stuff will apply on lower martingale terms.

In the posted example, our heroes have caught a couple of as hands, that is the factor who would shift the outcomes on B side.
In one hand, they got one of the worst as hand B could present (P 5, B 4), in another one they had a better scenario (P 3, B 6) but things went horrible when P caught a 6.

Coincidentally the P streak ended up at 11. Just a coincidence, but somewhere in my post I talked about this possible "trigger".

In reality, if we could set up a bot betting a 5 or 6 martingale after an 8 or 9 P streak, everytime adding a 10% after a total loss and subtracting an 8-9% after every win we couldn't lose itlr.

In practice this play won't be possible for many reasons.

Of course, B streaks will act exactly in the opposite fashion up to a point where betting P will be a very slightly more profitable spot.
Surely such point isn't a 7 B streak, so koreans imho won't globally get any edge by any means. 

as. 




   

[Natural 9]

Why would you even care about any other system when you have the holy grail? Delete my posts what do I care!!!!

Your a fraud and have been called out.......

Somebody forgot to take his meds. 



Natural 9   

[Natural 9]

The smart way of approaching it.  During my participation in this thread, I was mainly playing "AS3", I got hit by a 10 streak, due to loss of discpline I only stopped on the 10th decision, thereby losing 7IAR, a bit of a ball-ache, but it didn't clean me out (I was running 3 separate progressions) , just gave me a bit of mental stress, I recouped and made a decent profit at the end of it all.

I will tolerate your "hinting" on my thread but DO NOT malign a person especially when that person is not here to defend himself. Such a childish and cowardly act to do. 

Just stick to the main topic so other members would benefit from this thread and will be encouraged to participate in a "sensible" discussion without any fear of being personally attacked by people like YOU and WBK. 


Natural 9