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[Jimske]

Andy, how many bets per shoe using TUBS?

[ADulay]

Andy, how many bets per shoe using TUBS?

Jumske,

  Running that shoe that Alrelax just posted had TUBS making nine wagers in the first 40 hands (to a loss) and then 9 more on the last 40 hands.  Total loss was -8 over the 80 hands dealt.

  AD

[Mars Rocks]

There are two types of members here. Those that made claims that they can win in Baccarat and those that don't believe it can be done.  We can settle this once and for all.  Those who can beat the challenge can having bragging rights.  The ones who fail or don't dare to take the challenge should refrain from posting all the great results they claim their system can produce.  Then the other half needs to stop harassing those who pass the challenge.

This challenge can be done without revealing your system so no don't use that excuse.  I can setup a computer for the challenger to play on the Wizard's site.  Anyone here for the challenge?

I don't want to waste my time posting the challenge until someone is interested.

I can win at baccarat and I will take you up on the challenge.

I don't have a system that I'm selling and I believe mechanical systems don't work.  I'm using the gods to help with my bet selection, so basically it's subjective which side I bet.  Having said that I do have a mechanical system that I fall back on, but it will be switched in and out at my whim.

I have some requirements that I think are pretty reasonable...

1.  The hand history is always displayed for the entire shoe.
2.  The shoe is shuffled beforehand.  I would think this is assumed by most, but what I'm saying is I don't want any of this continuous shuffle stuff.  Whatever cards come were always going to come no matter what millisecond they come.
3.  I have 20 seconds to make bets.
4.  The dealer deals automatically.  I don't hit any button to say I've made my bet.
5.  The cards are dealt at a speed like a normal paced dealer, about 1 second per card, perhaps 2 seconds for the 3rd card if there is one.
6.  There's a further 5 seconds or so for the bet to be taken or paid, before the next "place your bets" period.

I prefer 8 decks but I will play with 6 if you must.

I wish to start with 200 units.  I will claim victory when I reach +400 units, and admit defeat at -400 units.  I may bet up to 10 units but it would be rare-ish.  I will be betting from 1 to 10 units.

I'm not sure how long I will play for, I expect it would be about 3 hours per day on days that I play.  I'm not committing to any fixed hours.

I expect this might take 6 months for me to claim victory (or admit defeat).

[Mars Rocks]

Thanks Bally!  I didn't think anyone would make an attempt.  I am not familiar with everyone but I didn't get a chance to read through some of your posts.  My computer is currently in pieces but once it's ready I will get back to you and get this going.  Just to let you know, I will try to do a screen capture of it.  Hopefully it is not too slow or eat up too many hard drive space.

I think you're still experimenting with systems if I get read everything right.  It does not matter if your bet selection or bet management is random or not.  In the past, I have come across people who claim a certain progression works and when time comes, they would deviate and do out of control Marty bets.

Just remember this challenge is not to ridicule anyone.

For the record, write a brief description of:

1. Your system or approach
2. Bankroll
3. Daily winning goals, stop losses, approximately how many shoes you play per day.   (If you have any)
4. Where do you reside.
5. Days and times you can do this as we are all in different time zones.
6. Do you have Windows platform computer?

This is all I can think of at the moment.  We can coordinate further.

Just read this and I will respond to these...
1. I have a subjective system, choose bets and sides at my whim.  Bets will be from 1 to 10 units.  In reality I will likely be following a mechanical system until I decide to change it to its opposite.
2. I would like to start with 200 units.
3.  I have no daily winning goals or stop losses.  I would play 3 shoes a day probably, with breaks in between each shoe, possibly 1/2 hour, may be more or less.
4.  I reside in Australia and use Australian Central Time.
5.  I would generally be playing in my afternoons, from 2pm to 6pm, but it may vary.
6.  I have a windows platform computer.

I find it very unlikely that I will be down after 160 shoes.  If that's your only requirement then I'm ok with that.  This is easier than my original goal of finishing up 400 units.

[greenguy]

Baccarat is a simple game and roulette is my preference.

So when playing bac, I keep it simple by pitting banker/player against each other in a race to five.

I only bet when either is up to to four with one win to complete the five.

If both are at four I don't bet. I rule both off at three and continue the race to five.

If either race ahead to lead by four, I don't bet. I rule both off at zero, and continue the race to five.

Of course I use a very specific progression for this bet selection.

Good luck to you all.