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[klw]

Hi -- I am becoming more and more interested in learning and playing Baccarat mainly due to AsymBacGuy's excellent thread which is making more and more sense the more I learn.

So thanks to AsymBacGuy.

I am looking for an online casinos that pay 9-1 for a tie and 9-1 for a natural 8 or 9. Also are there any online casinos that only use 2 decks or am I being naive asking this last part.

Yes I do understand that the house edge is less playing P or B.

I am also looking for Bac hand histories , I have a link to random generated Bac hands , any good ?

And lastly , any recommendations as to what I should be making a legend of ? The obvious is the number of P's and B's that win , also the number of columns with 1's 2's 3's etc.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Cheers.

[KungFuBac]

Hi klw

I agree with u re: AsymBacGuys' excellent thread.

re:Tie bet. I know of a few online *casinos that offer 9-to-1 payout. However, and as u prob know, we can find easier opponents(If i remember correctly the 9-1 vs 8-1 lowers HE from roughly ~~ 14.4% to 4.8%). I don't routinely play Tie wager although I do think in certain spots it could be profitable.

*Ill PM u a couple names later today as i don't "think" management want us posting online cas links here.


Continued Success,

[klw]

Cheers KungFuBac for that.

Any help is appreciated.

[KungFuBac]

Hi klw



I play with a few players that almost 100% of their wagers are ties. My thinking and as many will likely agree most any gambling venture regardless the  game or type of wager: If its hitting bet it/if not don't.

Re: Tie bet--Some people have success tracking F cards and especially near the end of shoe can sometimes have a mathematical advantage(though win is seldom guaranteed there is no doubt good, better, & best opportunities  Vs just wagering every hand).

*Personally I will typically set aside one unit and split it up so I have enough to wager Tie a max of maybe six to eight times(if called for), and the payout approaches  a one unit base-bet win,....etc. Often I will go a whole shoe and maybe wager Tie zero  times or maybe 2-3 times near the end of shoe(if warranted). I've also seen shoes where Tie was the absolute strongest wager for the shoe.  Often I may utilize  an approach of "See a Tie do the TriTie: When a T presents wager for Tie on the immediate very next three decisions. If a Tie does indeed show then three more Tie tries after that one.)

**I also like a sentence alrelax states in many of his posts posts about Ties often diluting the strongest trend and I pay attention to Tie ratios as a benchmark suggesting the strength of outcomes(whatever is presenting), i.e., Low Ties suggest whatever is strong/ currently happening is more likely to continue, That is, "less dilution", and vice versa).

***We have a few forum members that play Tie alot and have more expertise in this area so maybe they will chime in here

klw --Let us know how you play Ties/any success  and updates are appreciated.

Continued Success,

[klw]

Hi KungFuBac  -- Interesting stuff.

I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers.

[Albalaha]

Why play Tie or any outside bet? You can earn with any bet but it is one of the worst choices. I have played Ties enough. Nothing beats EC bets. It may excite you momentarily but will require bigger bankroll and even bigger patience to extract money from playing "Tie". Could go very frustrating at times. Even with 9 to 1 payout, it has 4.85% house edge instead of 14.40% in 8 to 1 payout but still it is far worse than Banker and Player bets. Playing tie could be compared to a "corner bet" of roulette.
      You will find a few online casinos paying 9-1 on Tie by a simple search.