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[alrelax]

A real Bankers shoe, yet so many lose.  All you hear is how the game favors Bankers.  Yes it does at points and other times Players will dominate shoe after shoe or be so trivial of a difference, unless you wager large and cut way back on your unlucky hits--it really does not matter.  But, here is a shoe from last night with strong Bankers, the whole table was struggling with all their preconceived betting agendas and the dream stuff of, "players have to catch up'.  Good lord people, are you really looking for that yellow brick road  to match your thoughts on every single shoe???

The numbers alongside each hand are the winning point values of the hand, as always, the players would be the number on the left side and the bankers on the right side.  I did not circle the naturals as i normally do because i was blasted and degraded by some board member because of my sloppy, un kept, scribbled on and looked to be fake score card-because it was not written with posting in mind and university honors grad style, etc., etc., etc., and so on and so forth. 

But, on the brighter side, we slammed the table hard numerous times, we split drinks, one point the game is put on hold with cleaning and and changing half the rack of dealer chips do to a drink that was knock over and spilled into the rack.  We yelled, screamed, high fived, tipped the dealers hundred and hundreds of dollars, danced in the aisle on few of the table max wagers that won, etc., etc.  In other words, we raised cane and everyone knew it on the casino floor. 

The six dots on top of the card have meaning that, I placed those there after the first run of 5 Bankers.  Came true somewhat, but those two other bank runs of 6 and 5 should have been over towards the left.  Probably some know what these are and why I say that/planned on that, etc. 

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[ADulay]

Thanks for the shoe.

Obviously a fake as the yellow color gives it away.  If it was "real" there would be sparkling red and white lights cast aglow along with the glitter from the waitress' tip jar glistening off the pen you were using to write this out.

The simulated crinkling of the paper was done with the Photoshop "aging app" and I believe it was Microsoft Flight Simulator that placed those dots at the top to aid in some type of helicopter landing at position 3 on the table.

With all that said, VDW pooped out at a generic ZERO on this shoe while Stephen's TUBS came in at +2 (at hand #5) under the rules as we understand them at this time.  Continuing on to the end of the shoe resulted in a disappointing -1.

Ellis' System 40 produced a very nice +8 flat betting.

AD (live and on the scene at the baccarat scorecard emporium and Chinese takeout place)


PS   The high "twos" just killed VDW in this shoe.

PPSS   Am I the only person who takes advantage of these live shoes to do testing on different plays?   Post them up!!

[alrelax]

Sorry and i do apologize to the 'real' players here and people like AD, Vic and others for some of the things I said--but when people come on here and outright say such 'untruths' and 'cow poo-poo', I do take offense to it!  I spend time to post this stuff, don't know about others, but i have to scan it, prep some stuff to cut off names or ID labels, etc., Download and type it out.  Etc., etc. 

So, it is what it is.   And it is Orange color, I guess the light in my office and the digital camera??  If I scan these they will be much darker.  So the only way to read it clearly is to take a picture, then email it, then download it and then post it.

All the other innuendoes are pretty much spot on!  I know others love this fake stuff! 

This is the night after the last gas tanker job I just posted about in my Blog, my buddy and I did very well on this shoe and one other one.  The first one being played when we got there was a disaster so we just sat there and made fun of everything and everybody losing their money.  Most of them I know anyway, so it's okay! 

[Baelog]

PPSS   Am I the only person who takes advantage of these live shoes to do testing on different plays?   Post them up!!

Hi ADulay

No, I like to run them also since I don't get to go that often to the Casino. Closest one is 3 hours away. Here is my small test using VDW/ES.

Baelog

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[alrelax]

You guys, nothing wrong--"NOTHING WRONG" and not complaining.  You make me feel like I play some kind of weird and obscure baccarat.  I have typically toned down, go less per month by far and play a considerably less amount of hands and do much better overall--=no doubt, no challenges, no adding up before and now, etc.

I look at your charts all the cart.  I don't follow computer generated suggestions and I am not one to wager for statistical 'advantages' as suggested by so many 'expert authors' and 'instant professionals' usually selling something they wrote or discovered.  What happened to Ted009 and Luenyeh--is 100% backup proof good enough for me.  I do buy books and posted several, but they are more of an overall and everything but set placement systems. 

Here is the guts of this post I guess--I do not and will not ever wager every hand or nearly every hand or even say 50 out of 80 hands of a shoe.  Some of the largest and best shoes would be realized with 15 to 25 wagers, IMO and experience, many times over the past 10 plus years. 

As far as consistency and constant wagering, sure you will win and sure the player gets that bumped and motivation, but the false fuel is the enemy's bullet to his head that will snatch his bank roll, each and every time.  I see it almost every casino visit with people I know and what their buy ins and bank rolls are.  This that play a certain way the highest majority of the times, will lose everything they won and thier buy ins and their subsequent buy ins, because te false fuel they receive by their sporadic wins with their rock-solid system.

As far as myself, once again--I attack each shoe from all directions without regards to the previous, last week, last month, the computer and on the 65th hand the 5th hand means nothing.  I subscribe heavy to sections, turning points, my 1/3rd guaranteed win money hold system and some positive progressions, and yes at times--regression to the mean-superstitions-mtching-and the good old gut feeling etc. 

[Baelog]

Hi Alrelax,

This is not how I would play either. I would not bet every decision in a shoe but use triggers and money management. I am "just for fun" using your shoes for different mechanical plays that has been presented in this forum in the last few years. You are correct. The graph was completely computer generated using the VDW/ES concept. I am still catching up on your 10 series blog. Very interesting reading. I have already started implementing your 1/3 guarantee money management.

Baelog

[Baelog]

This is how Sputniks March came out on the same shoe. Computer generated based on mechanical rules. Flat bet.

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