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Baccarat, it's simple, but not easy, to win for a long term

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Rinzler

Quote from: Albalaha on November 10, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
           We have to think of long term, till we are alive and think of playing random games.

I WAS being optimistic.  Most of us are already gone.  :rose: :beer: :rose:

:broken: :fight: :scared: :stress: :-[ :-X :'( ;D :yuck:  (Take your pick!)

gr8player

Quote from: Sputnik on November 10, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
Its great when member is winning.
I can not understand how they do it.

Because i have not seen any winning method at gambling forums from the year 2006 to today 2014.

So all this members who tell us that they are winning has to be extreme lucky members.

Luck's got nothing to do with it, Sputnik, for luck, as we all know, is one fickle bitch.

Sure, you'll never read any "nuts and bolts" method of play that'll assure your winnings; frankly, I find those that expect so to be rather naïve and misdirected.

Winning...true, long term winning...is as much "subjective" (read: personal) as it is "objective", if not more so.  It takes a lot of certain personal traits; ain't no simple "nuts and bolts" methodology can possibly suffice to carry anyone through the inherent variances of such.

Lastly, Sputnik, know this:

True, long term winning is MORE about "damage control" (read: loss paring) than it is about winning.  Managing one's downturns...yes, make no mistake of it, they are inevitable...managing one's downturns is of paramount importance to any real, long term success.  Which leads us to "loss acceptance" and, then, of course, directly into a refined and efficient "loss recoup" methodology.

The real winners know exactly what I'm talking about, without expecting any particular "nuts and bolts" from me or anyone.

Stay well.

alrelax

Quote from: gr8player on November 10, 2014, 06:14:40 PM


True, long term winning is MORE about "damage control" (read: loss paring) than it is about winning.  Managing one's downturns...yes, make no mistake of it, they are inevitable...managing one's downturns is of paramount importance to any real, long term success.  Which leads us to "loss acceptance" and, then, of course, directly into a refined and efficient "loss recoup" methodology.



There you go, 30 plus years of casino live playing, I will second that one.
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THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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Sputnik

wow ,,, you two are super gamblers and you should educate other gamblers with your super knowledge ...
I wish i know what you know ... then i also would have a winning methodology ...

Reading what you two wrote is like following a guru into the real gambling world ...
Tell me more i also want to change and become a super gambler :-)

Rinzler

Lol.

Damage control is what you do after something like a flood.

There is no damage control for gambling.  Ie, if you can win, then no damage to control.

If you can't, then it's your own fault.  Ie, stupidity.

Rinzler

Quote from: Sputnik on November 10, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
Tell me more i also want to change and become a super gambler :-)

I like this.

Super Gambler comics.


P.S. My final post.  Will be "muted" shortly.  Lol.

P.P.S. I'm Garnabby, you jughead johno!  (So who was Garnabby?)

alrelax

There is always (ALWAYS) going to be a downturn in anyone's luck, skill, play at a casino.  It is impossible, never has happen that someone constantly wins at the casino, week in and week out (meaning several trips a months say 4 to 6 year after year.  It has never happened to the best of my knowledge, at least in the USA.  I also have the benefit of numerous family members in casino employment that work on the average 60 hours per week on the casino floor and several of them in excess of 80 or 90 hours a week for decades now. 

I seriously think for the sake of discussion and argument that, some of us misinterpret the other posters terminology. 

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Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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Dr. Mabuse

Damage control is  just another  term for  chasing losses.
The Gambler

alrelax

Chasing losses to me is  upwards progression from normal wagers and extended play time.

Damage control is limiting wagers, waiting, stopping the trip or re-grouping if doing something out of your norm/ordinary, etc. 
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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greenguy

Quote from: Dr. Mabuse on November 10, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Damage control is  just another  term for  chasing losses.

An interesting viewpoint put forward by Dr. Mabuse, but I'd like to hear what NathanDetroit thinks.

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: Sputnik on November 10, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
Its great when member is winning.
I can not understand how they do it.

Because i have not seen any winning method at gambling forums from the year 2006 to today 2014.

So all this members who tell us that they are winning has to be extreme lucky members.
Because the game is "egalité", equal in every sense of the word, therefore no bet selection is going to cut it.  what generally happens is, a bet selection will either stink off the bat, or you may have a good run with it, then it will stink at some stage.  How much you win before it smells, how much you limit the damage (draw-down) before giving it up, is entirely up to you.  Sad indictment not enough realize / appreciate that which side you bet next will always be secondary to the amount bet.     

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: alrelax on November 10, 2014, 07:24:49 PM
There is always (ALWAYS) going to be a downturn in anyone's luck, skill, play at a casino.  It is impossible, never has happen that someone constantly wins at the casino, week in and week out
Hmm excuse me  :cheer: I've done just that, not quite few times per month (I've done that also), rather 7 days per week (had nothing else to do, enjoyed taking their money), won every single trip for 5 weeks solid (multiple daily sessions sometimes) , increasing the original buyin 25 fold (I then left the state).

Is there a system to enable a player to win consistently  NO, because I changed how I played many times over, tome it comes down to; the person, how they handle stress, draw-downs, table smarts, secondly playing conditions, multiple tables, different spreads, 24hrs, able to request either free hands or bet both sides, 8 decks, hand shuffled as opposed to, single table, 6am closing, unable to bet both sides or no free hands, no other players, tight table limits, angel pre-shuffled, 6 deck games. 

alrelax

Absolutely, small/short period of time.  Yes, possible.  Long term/long range/year after year.  No way.  Cannot and never been done.  A couple sessions per week, 8-10 a month and every month for year after year, constitutes long term. Cannot be done, never been done.

A couple times a month for a very short period, a few hands, a few spins, etc., a couple times a year.  Maybe.

I have won for a period of 7 or 10 trips overall also, meaning not an average, each and every trip.  I know plenty of others also.  But not consistently over the long run.   
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

TheCaviarKid

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 10, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
Sad indictment not enough realize / appreciate that which side you bet next will always be secondary to the amount bet.   

That's true! Let's face it, you can screw up even if your bet selection is on song if you don't get the money side of things right. Been there and done that before.
"Sometimes it is the people we imagine nothing of, who do the things we can not imagine."

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: alrelax on November 10, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
Absolutely, small/short period of time.  Yes, possible.  Long term/long range/year after year.  No way.  Cannot and never been done.  A couple sessions per week, 8-10 a month and every month for year after year, constitutes long term. Cannot be done, never been done.

A couple times a month for a very short period, a few hands, a few spins, etc., a couple times a year.  Maybe.

I have won for a period of 7 or 10 trips overall also, meaning not an average, each and every trip.  I know plenty of others also.  But not consistently over the long run.
Long period of time squeezed into short period?  Something in the region of 31 consecutive winning sessions, 2 losing session then 10 consecutive winning sessions(not including coming 1st in first ever Bacc Tournament for free $5k), fly away into the sunset.