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[Jimske]

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Date Registered: December 15, 2015, 04:07:50 amLocal Time:March 04, 2016, 08:08:04 pm
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This is a guy calling himself hendra adhi advertising Baccarat College on .cc.  I contacted him and he would give me no infor except he is charging 6k to teach how to win 3 units a shoe!

[vo rogue]

Thx for the heads up jim, just another fairygodmother selling their grail for bargin price.
         Baccarat college heh, i recall a poster here had taken out a lease ,on a prime shopfront on the vegas strip, and was just getting his "Materials" together.  How do scammers justify these rorts to themselves ?.

[21 Aces]

What standards are you looking for in a training program and at what price?  I ask because a year at a college like Vassar will cost north of 50 large and there are many under 5 a year.

[Jimske]

What standards are you looking for in a training program and at what price?  I ask because a year at a college like Vassar will cost north of 50 large and there are many under 5 a year.

So when you spend 50 large at Vassar you at least get a piece of paper that can open some doors!  When you send this "hendra" 6k you get . . . well, nothing. 

How's that for starters?

[soxfan]

Three unit per shoe could be a sweet proposition depending on bankroll required, and size of bet required and drawdown, hey hey.

[21 Aces]

So when you spend 50 large at Vassar you at least get a piece of paper that can open some doors!  When you send this "hendra" 6k you get . . . well, nothing. 

How's that for starters?

Yes, his response to your inquiry is not open which some training programs do have.  Having independently administered reviews is the best way for prospective clients to get an idea of whether something is worthwhile. 

[Jimske]

Three unit per shoe could be a sweet proposition depending on bankroll required, and size of bet required and drawdown, hey hey.

Even 1 unit  shoe - a win is a win.  But when you get asked to fork over 6k with no guarantee and no info  . . . a red flag should go up.

[Trbfla]

6k no info? Ya I'm not sure I'd go for it. 3 wins a shoe is all relative to unit size....a 3 step progression with recovery gets me to 7 units nicely

[AsymBacGuy]

It would be very hard to believe and to demonstrate that a long term winning system could get 0.20 or 0.30 of unit per shoe but now we got a system claiming to get 10 times more.

All for the bargain price of 6k.

Let's go to purchase it and thanks to god he decided to advertise it on the net!

as.

   

[RouletteGhost]

always a sad story

if it won't them money why sell it.

[Blue_Angel]

always a sad story

if it won't them money why sell it.

Common sense after all!

I'm not saying that there is (are) not long term winning method(s) but such method(s) will NEVER be up for sale!

[tdx]

How to become a millionaire playing baccarat.

If you could just average just 1.5 units profit a shoe in bac, then this is what you could do :

1. Play "professionally " only 2 shoes a day for 5 days a week and take weekends off

2. Start with a relatively small bankroll of $ 1,000 and risk a small % of bankroll per bet such as
    2%  which equals $ 20 a bet to start ( 2% x $1,000 = $ 20 ). Risking only 2% will give you
the best chance of surviving the variance and inevitable drawdowns

3. Within about 4 months of play your bankroll should be around $ 15,000 which will make your bet size around $ 300 a hand ( 2% x 15000 = $300)

4. Since you have changed a negative expectation game to a positive expectation game  ( averaging 1.5 units a shoe ) you are now in the situation of playing a game of compound
interest ( which Einstein called the 8th wonder of the world ) where profits increase exponentially which is described here for all you high school graduates:

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance/interest-tutorial/compound-interest-tutorial/v/introduction-to-compound-interest

5. After about 6 months of play, your bankroll should be about $ 50,000 and your bet size about
$ 1,000 a hand ( 2% x 50,000 = $ 1,000) thanks to compound interest.

6. If you live near and  play only at a few casinos such as in California or Atlantic City where you can not blend in with large crowds such as in Las Vegas, then by now they would assume you are cheating by past posting bets on seat # 1 or seat #8  or are cheating in a false shuffle scam in partners with a crooked dealer and/or pit boss which was used by the Tran cheating team ..........who eventually got caught a wound up in prison.

7.  If you can not spread your action around with multiple casinos and different shifts such as in  Las vegas, then your casino would review the surveillance tapes and if they determined you weren't cheating, then they would either limit your bet size or ban you as they do in Blackjack.

8. If you average more than 1.5 units a shoe, then within a year of play you probably would come close to owning the casino.....all thanks to compund interest.

9 Same principle applies to the early Ken Uston blackjack teams of the early 1970's and the "Holly Roller" and MIT blackjack teams later on who also made millions off of a 1.5 % advantage with a positive deck.
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That's how you become a millionaire playing baccarat ( or any other any other casino game )

"Draw some chips.......let everybody play on the house."    Moe Green

[21 Aces]

6. If you live near and  play only at a few casinos such as in California or Atlantic City where you can not blend in with large crowds such as in Las Vegas, then by now they would assume you are cheating by past posting bets on seat # 1 or seat #8  or are cheating in a false shuffle scam in partners with a crooked dealer and/or pit boss which was used by the Tran cheating team ..........who eventually got caught a wound up in prison.

7.  If you can not spread your action around with multiple casinos and different shifts such as in  Las vegas, then your casino would review the surveillance tapes and if they determined you weren't cheating, then they would either limit your bet size or ban you as they do in Blackjack.

8. If you average more than 1.5 units a shoe, then within a year of play you probably would come close to owning the casino.....all thanks to compund interest.


These are all bull, and Moe assumes that players do not spend any money to live.  Every casino knows who you are whether you player card up or not within the first few sessions and they could not care less unless you are actually cheating or until you get to high limit/ whale size.  In fact at my house, many of the dealers, floor managers, and hosts are practically going out of their way to help players.

I am very surprised that baccpro has a dark view towards casinos when they are providing the opportunity he is supposedly capitalizing on.

[tdx]

If you think that if you only play at a small casino and you went on a year long winning streak winning over $ 250,000  and end up betting $2,000 to $ 5,000 a hand and continue to keep on winning while playing a negative expectation game...... and they can't prove you are cheating  ......and the casino will just sit there and let them continue to take their money......then you are living on Neptune.

The reason they are helping you is because you are not winning $ 250,000 a year and       betting  $ 5,000 a hand.   Duh!!

Sign up for the Baccarat College and win 3 units a shoe and win about $300,000 in 6 months and let the forum know how much your "friendly" dealers and pit bosses are helping you now.

[21 Aces]

If you think that if you only play at a small casino and you went on a year long winning streak winning over $ 250,000  and end up betting $2,000 to $ 5,000 a hand and continue to keep on winning while playing a negative expectation game...... and they can't prove you are cheating  ......and the casino will just sit there and let them continue to take their money......then you are living on Neptune.

The reason they are helping you is because you are not winning $ 250,000 a year and betting         $ 5,000 a hand.   Duh!!

I don't play at small casinos so sorry if some of you live in the sticks. I see huge play every session. Same players pretty much all the time.  Casinos have a reputation at stake.  Post up articles on players getting restricted/ banned for fair play and I'm not talking about Phil Ivey setting up rules of play that put so much in his favor they shouldn't have even bothered to deal hands at Borgata and Crockfords. Do you know how much money they make off players going on tilt and bad play?

Here we go... the old Long Range Recon can operate deep behind enemy lines for weeks creating hell on earth for an enemy in a number of ways, but nobody wins at baccarat bull.  Within the year baccarat will be my #1 source of profit and you can take that to the bank.

And negative expectation?  Who is forcing you to play, forcing you to play at that table, forcing you to play that hand, forcing you to bet that much (other than minimums)?  You decide all of those... It's called skill.  I swear some of you live in a box where you think anything north of on-line checkers at Level 1 is impossible.

Maybe the casinos just disappear all of the good players with their black op's teams.