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[Garfield]

I like to review each shoe I've played, especially the shoes where I suffered many LIAR (4,5,6 or more).

I try to evaluate my bs, to improve my winning percentage.

But I realized that if I adjust my bs, to avoid the LIAR in the particular shoe, I may end up winning in that shoe, but I might have another LIAR in another shoe where my previous bs is doing fine.

And I found it interesting, a x OO x O xx formation, in soke shoe I could win it all, where in another I could lose it all.

Guess that because my bs is still based on what happened in that shoe, which is P/B outcome. Is there any bs that NOT depend on the P/B outcome?

[Albalaha]

Don't waste your time. No betselection is inherently better than others unless house offers lesser house edge on one. Trying to find the best betselection, 90% of the players got broke and the rest did not play enough. Focus on how to survive when the worst time comes that will come despite all your strategies and safeguards. Every betselection will get good moments, bad moments, average moments, great moments and the worst moments and all those moments are pretty random i.e. unpredictable.
I have simulated hundreds of ways they can be played, all confirm this. Have a look at this: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/11104358/5-different-kind-bet-selections-perform-zumma-1600#.VzjEH_l97IU

[Tomla]

that silly graph didn't show much?

[Jimske]

Don't waste your time. No betselection is inherently better than others unless house offers lesser house edge on one. Trying to find the best betselection, 90% of the players got broke and the rest did not play enough. Focus on how to survive when the worst time comes that will come despite all your strategies and safeguards. Every betselection will get good moments, bad moments, average moments, great moments and the worst moments and all those moments are pretty random i.e. unpredictable.
I have simulated hundreds of ways they can be played, all confirm this. Have a look at this: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/11104358/5-different-kind-bet-selections-perform-zumma-1600#.VzjEH_l97IU

Why did you waste your time with such?  I didn't bother looking.  You have to adjust your bs to the shoe.  The rest is betting and MM.

[Albalaha]

Why did you waste your time with such?  I didn't bother looking.  You have to adjust your bs to the shoe.  The rest is betting and MM.

       I wasted my time in simulating the entire 1600 shoes of zumma to open my eyes as I also got false claims from people that opposite last is very good or bet the last will do great etc. All the betselection that you can pick with any of the parameters possible will yield you the very same outcomes, in enough trials.
              My BS or your BS it is only a BS. Do it shoe by shoe or day by day, it doesn't make any difference. Randomness doesn't realize the end of a shoe or end of your session or whatever. IT is random only.

[Garfield]

To be frankly, I didn't look for one. I just wonder whether there is a bs that does NOT based on the P/B outcome.

[Garfield]

I have simulated hundreds of ways they can be played, all confirm this. Have a look at this: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/11104358/5-different-kind-bet-selections-perform-zumma-1600#.VzjEH_l97IU

Sorry I couldn't open it. Why ?

[Albalaha]

Sorry I couldn't open it. Why ?

When you click on "click here to view attachment" it downloads the excel file from the hosted server. Thanks.

[Garfield]

Okay I've managed to open it. Too bad there isn't total amount of W and L. I wish I could do the same with my bs. Pheww.

@al thx anyway, really appreciate it.

[alrelax]

Every shoe is a complete independent factor than any other one.  No one system or protocol can possibly work over the course of multiple shoes on a consistent basis.  Play with the flow of the current shoe with loss of all memory of all other winning decisions.  Play what is being presented by the shoe. 

[Albalaha]

The flow, the trend, the stream all can change upside down when you start to follow that. What happened in a few last spins may not continue any further. Anybody seeing BBBBB may think that it is a big streak that we should cash on. Sadly, half of such streaks will not last from very next spin.

[alrelax]

The flow, the trend, the stream all can change upside down when you start to follow that. What happened in a few last spins may not continue any further. Anybody seeing BBBBB may think that it is a big streak that we should cash on. Sadly, half of such streaks will not last from very next spin.

I am not talking about streaks or runs.  NOT.  You misunderstood and you assume (you made an behind out of you and me!)

I am referring to the flow and (AND)  what the shoe is producing, did not produce and might yet still to create and produce.  All three events will happen to some magnitude in most every shoe, at least----more often than not anyways. 

The flow of the current shoe, does not only refer to streaks and runs, that is the way amateurs play and believe. 

[21 Aces]

The prime win for the Bank is to have you stubbornly play into a part of the shoe progressing in a way that unfolds exactly opposite to what you thought, right?

Last night on a long Dragon a player was chopping only to finally align a few bets later at the chop point so they maxed their loss on it, but there are screwed possibilities to the nth degree that are much more difficult.

It may be best to go immediately virtual after 2 or 3 losses in a row.  You have all of the time in the world.  I rarely think I can win back as fast as I do and I am quite shocked how easy it is to drop consecutive bets at times.  The table right next to you or 30 others may get much easier for you in the near term.  My house has Dragon chopping teams and am very close to partnering up to ride Dragons.

The closest thing to a trading floor that we'll ever see unless something dramatically changes in the financial world back to old school:

[Albalaha]

The flow of the current shoe, does not only refer to streaks and runs, that is the way amateurs play and believe.

OK, and how does professionals do? If I give you 50 shoes half shown can you even slightly tell how will the rest of half go? Finding historical patterns and trying to cash on them is in no way possible  in a pure game of chance. It is only as good as if you play every hand with banker or player. Weather forecasts can be done to some extent correctly seeing cloud patterns but the same goes useless in many other fields. Scientific theories has "cause and effect" relations and not only wishful thinkings.
           Many of our fellow players are trying to be bigger scientists and mathematicians than the legends and instead of accepting that their blindfaiths has no scientific basis, they insist on them as eternal truth.


   Where ignorace is a bliss, it is a folly to be wise.

[Garfield]

I experienced that we made the wrong bet more than the right one, despite the amount. Why is it?

IMO maybe because we use the past result as the guide. But there are always two sides, the trend and anti-trend of the past result. And I believe both sides also made more wrong choices than the right ones. How come?

So, no sides made more right choices.  Shouldn't it supposed to have one side ahead of the other? Someone else is paying your winning and vice versa?

Why do we made the wrong choices at the given spot, given time? Why we don't make the other choices ?

If no bs method will work, maybe a blind man have a higher chance to win @ baccarat? Not knowing what is the past, just make a random choice?

Well maybe I need Soxfan's cashew and Guiness this time, even when I prefer tea than the Guiness. Miaw,miaw. LoL