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[alrelax]

I would like to see if anyone can test the following?

Set up 8 decks of cards the exact same way/order, and run them out for a Baccarat shoe.

Cut the decks at different places.

Run the test numerous times, like 10 times with 10 different cut points but the same order each time and see what happens?

Can anyone do this?

[21 Aces]

This is when the dynamics of the shuffle and the cut blow your mind.

[alrelax]

What?  No one can put this example on a computer test and see what happens??  Thought it wouldn't be that hard to set it up and check??  IDK.

[Azim]

What do you mean by same order?

1 to 416 order of cards to be the same prior to cuts? The cuts have to be random?  That creates a random starting point?

Is this right?

[Azim]

Does anyone know after a cut, do dealer burn any cards? If so, how many?

[alrelax]

I wanted them shuffled in one order, any order as if a casino was going to deal one shoe of baccarat comprised of 8 decks. 

Maintain that same order exactly but with a different cut card position each time.

Say 10 times.

Record the results of each shoe.

That's all.

[Azim]

Here,  I want you to check the logic for the 3rd card.
If its correct, let me know how many more you want and what format.

[goez]

It may be more useful to display them as B/P patterns.
Also need to take "burnt cards" into consideration.

[Azim]

Burned cards have been taken into consideration.

I just need someone to check the 3 card rules. If I have them right.

[goez]

I had a quick scan through there all seem correct.

[alrelax]

Yes, I looked at most and they are correct.

[Azim]

Ok. TY.

I will run and produce the out put of P, B & T.

I will name the file based on cut's.

[goez]

Thank you very much Azim, the results are simply amazing. It seem that the cut point didn't really change the overall patterns that much merely just displacing them.

[21 Aces]

The cut will either displace if it strikes precisely or it more likely will create a new shoe.   If it creates a new shoe (new outcomes) those possibilities are large in number, right?

[alrelax]

So many think on here and elsewhere that auto shufflers set-up the cards to be in the casinos favor.  Maybe a tad bit more at blackjack they benefit the house, complicating the counting (estimation) of what is left in a shoe to favor the player, however---in baccarat, although I would prefer a hand shuffle, IMO, there is no way a casino can set up the cards in any order whatsoever to favor the casino.  Even if they did, a random cut will circumvent any order from taking place as planned. That is what I am getting at.