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Started by WorldBaccaratKing, October 16, 2014, 12:43:25 AM

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WorldBaccaratKing

1st off, all system sellers, people who say they have bought so and so's system and found the holy grail but won't share it or can't share it, please, don't bother in this thread.

This thread is for ideas. Ideas that work for some doesn't mean they will work for everyone.

As I stated, I let the board tell me what is going on. I don't try to assert my will on the game, I let the game dictate as to how I react and play.

If the board has PBP (chopping), I certainly am not going to go against the chop. Same thing if the board starts PPP or BBB, I will go with the streak.

If it starts PP BB P(?), I will definitely play P to "double up". This works for me.

Also, people who know pit bosses system, if I see 30-40 hands and there are no streaks past 3-4, I will play my doubles and then fade from that point on.

Again, I let the shoe tell me. Does it always work? HELL NOOOO! But, I will be honest, in the past 6 months, I think the worst I have done at the tables is break even. Usually, being disciplined, I am able to grind out a profit.

MM is key, if I lost X amount of bets I may bump up my base bet to try to recoup what I lost because it's a matter of time before the tide turns. With how I play above, its very difficult to lose a lot and keep losing....

Love to hear what works for others....

alrelax

Anything and everything can happen.  Experiences are golden and those that know Baccarat will realize the game mirrors life pretty well in many ways.  Nice post.
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Schoolman

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 16, 2014, 12:43:25 AM
Ideas that work for some doesn't mean they will work for everyone.

I disagree. An idea (or system) if it works at all should work for you, me, your Aunt Pat, and the bloke down the road whose dog cr*ps on your lawn.

Otherwise, it just doesn't work, period. The tables and outcomes are not partial to who is playing; they have no favorites. If something works for you but not me, then it's a sure sign that it's merely a run of good luck, which is temporary, not consistent.
A small error in the principles is large in the conclusions.

Schoolman

Quote from: alrelax on October 16, 2014, 12:22:10 PM
Anything and everything can happen.

Again, I have to disagree. If there were no regularities or things we could depend on, whatsoever, then no one would ever win consistently. For instance, have you ever seen a shoe which consists of entirely Bankers or Players? Although in a way highly unpredictable, outcomes lie between certain limits.
A small error in the principles is large in the conclusions.

WorldBaccaratKing

Quote from: Schoolman on October 16, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
I disagree. An idea (or system) if it works at all should work for you, me, your Aunt Pat, and the bloke down the road whose dog cr*ps on your lawn.

Otherwise, it just doesn't work, period. The tables and outcomes are not partial to who is playing; they have no favorites. If something works for you but not me, then it's a sure sign that it's merely a run of good luck, which is temporary, not consistent.

I agree with you about systems. The only variance I see is whether they shuffle by hand or automatic card shufflers, but that shouldnt matter in the long run.

I have never ever seen a system win every shoe, its impossible............

Some people are just lucky, some arent.

WorldBaccaratKing

Quote from: Schoolman on October 16, 2014, 01:47:29 PM
Again, I have to disagree. If there were no regularities or things we could depend on, whatsoever, then no one would ever win consistently. For instance, have you ever seen a shoe which consists of entirely Bankers or Players? Although in a way highly unpredictable, outcomes lie between certain limits.

Disagree with you here. You're insinuating you know what is going to happen. that's BS and you know it. No one knows what cards are coming out next. You may use probability to help you but baccarat or blackjack, you have an idea maybe, 100% know for sure, you are insane.............

The count in blackjack can be +100000000, guess what, you could still get the 6 with the face card and be "hosed".


Schoolman

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 16, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
You're insinuating you know what is going to happen. that's BS and you know it. No one knows what cards are coming out next.

You misunderstand me, I didn't say it's possible to know what the next hand will be, I said there are limits, so it's not true that anything could happen. You would have to be more precise about the number of outcomes you're talking about. Next few hands? sure, anything could happen, but it becomes less likely that anything could happen the more hands you take. Even in a shoe there are limits, like I said. Whether you can take advantage of this is a different question altogether though.

But baccarat is quite a limited game. In Roulette there are more opportunities.
A small error in the principles is large in the conclusions.

ADulay

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 16, 2014, 03:20:28 PM

The count in blackjack can be +100000000, guess what, you could still get the 6 with the face card and be "hosed".

I took the liberty of changing your original post and inserted the word "hosed" instead of what you had originally posted.

We're not an "X" rated forum yet.

Thanks for understanding.

AD

Rinzler

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 16, 2014, 03:20:28 PMThe count in blackjack can be +100000000, guess what, you could still get the 6 with the face card and be "hosed".
I think that the idea then is for the dealer to bust.  Good thing you got the last small card!

P.S. The word bust is okay in this context only.  In any non-gambling sense, grammatically incorrect. 

GAJR. (Don't want to offend the mods here.)

WorldBaccaratKing

No serious talk, just people flaming others, no contributions. Geez, I thought this was a gambling forum or is this a wannabee forum?

WorldBaccaratKing

Or is it a fact that there is NO way to win consistently?

esoito

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on October 23, 2014, 02:03:15 AM
No serious talk, just people flaming others, no contributions. Geez, I thought this was a gambling forum or is this a wannabee forum?

I keep a pretty close eye on things to ensure the Rules are observed, especially the one about personal attacks.

So where's the flaming you've identified? (Not to be confused with relatively civilised disagreements.)

No contributions, you say?  That's a bit of a long bow to draw.

Just for starters go and read Alrelax's blog. Plenty of contributions there.

Perhaps you were having a bad day when you posted...  ;)


ADulay

Quote from: Rinzler on October 17, 2014, 07:00:46 PM
I think that the idea then is for the dealer to bust.  Good thing you got the last small card!

P.S. The word bust is okay in this context only.  In any non-gambling sense, grammatically incorrect. 

GAJR. (Don't want to offend the mods here.)

Rinzler,

  I'm not offended at all.  Bust is fine.  The context of the word is always taken into consideration in any discussion.

  With that said, there are just some words that need not be used in front of your mother or in this forum.  Pretty simple, eh?

  That was probably the second time I've actually had to modify a post and strangely enough, it was for the same expletive.

  We are after all, a civilized collection of casino players and not the usual rabble associated with gambling.

  AD