A friend of mine in Chicago bought Dr. Tom's system off of ebay for 750. He has shared it with me and I will share it with you, step by step. I will post each step and at the very end, shoes that correspond with the play.
It is a little difficult to grasp (at least for me) but maybe we can all help each other. Here we go. Once we are all on the same page, I will submit the next step (10 in total).
Step #1
There will be 3 "betting Columns" generated by the raw banker and player decisions. These betting columns start being determined by the last 4 B/P decisions being converted into B's and I's which stand for Balanced and Imbalanced. (Lesson # 1 at the end of this information)
The first column is result of our expectations of upcoming B and I outcomes. These are the Plus's and Minus's (Lesson # 2)
The second column...the W's and L's are the result of our expectations from Column 1. (Lesson # 3)
The third Column (another set of Plus's and Minus's) is the result of our expected outcomes from column 2. (Lesson # 5)
How To See The Banker And Player Decisions Differently From All The Other Players at The Table: How To Convert To The "B and I."
Use the RAW banker/player decisions to generate the "B" and "I" Patterns.
B = Balanced (ALL the last FOUR decisions were the same BBBB, PPPP or 2 of each B&P – in any order)
I = Imbalanced (One Banker or Player and 3 of the other)
Take the last 4 decisions:
Here are the BALANCED...BBBB PPPP PBPB BPBP PPBB BBPP BPPB PBBP
In other words, all 4 are the SAME OR 2 of EACH...the number of B/P decisions are in BALANCE.
IMBALANCED is the opposite: 3 of one (B/P) and 1 of the other: PBBB PBPP PPBP PPPB BPPP BPBB BBPB BBBP
Just cover literally with your finger, or in your mind's eye, the last 3 decisions and you will know immediately which side will result in an I and which will generate a B.
For your homework, take two old shoes of around 60 decisions each or flip a coin (heads=banker, tails=player)
And mark all decisions, after the third one because you need FOUR, either B(alanced) or I(mbalanced).
Because you have placed this in a public forum I must assume that you are inviting comment. I've only heard the first of this but already know what the entire thing is about. It's obfuscation of coherent functionality for the purpose of misdirection and confusion. I can prove my supposition in this way. You won't be able to see a trend through observation techniques of visual dexterity and recognition. You will get bogged down in the minutia of thinking about filling in the charts and being forced to recognize favorability situations through further rationalizations of multiple fragments of combined data that is unrecognizable from any other form than cognitive deduction. And that is by design the purpose of these kind of charting systems. It's deliberately meant to confuse you and to be impractical in real use. Its sole purpose is to dazzle you into buying it and to resale you further instructions on how to perfect it. The seller, knowing that it can't actually work, is none the less selling something confusing on purpose. Of course you should continue telling us about it. I can't wait for the kicker, the closing item that brings it all home as the thing you've got to have. What the heck. What else do we have to do.
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 18, 2016, 01:34:46 PM
Because you have placed this in a public forum I must assume that you are inviting comment. I've only heard the first of this but already know what the entire thing is about. It's obfuscation of coherent functionality for the purpose of misdirection and confusion. I can prove my supposition in this way. You won't be able to see a trend through observation techniques of visual dexterity and recognition. You will get bogged down in the minutia of thinking about filling in the charts and being forced to recognize favorability situations through further rationalizations of multiple fragments of combined data that is unrecognizable from any other form than cognitive deduction. And that is by design the purpose of these kind of charting systems. It's deliberately meant to confuse you and to be impractical in real use. Its sole purpose is to dazzle you into buying it and to resale you further instructions on how to perfect it. The seller, knowing that it can't actually work, is none the less selling something confusing on purpose. Of course you should continue telling us about it. I can't wait for the kicker, the closing item that brings it all home as the thing you've got to have. What the heck. What else do we have to do.
I agree! Here comes part 2. And yes, I want comment and at the end we can play it against shoes and i will post his "shoes".
Lesson #2 – Generating the PLUS and MINUS
Anytime there is a switch from B to I or I to B...that is a MINUS.
Anytime an B follows a B or an I follows and I...that is a PLUS.
These Plus and minus results are listed in the Column to the right of the banker column on the score card. The First P/M Column.
Lesson #3 – Generating the W's and L's
- A "W" is the result of the Expectation in the P/M column being right for the THIRD TIME IN A ROW of EITHER PLUS or MINUS. In other words, we are following CONSECUTIVE outcomes of the Plus and Minus as our "W" EXPECTATION. We are NOT necessarily (explained in later lessons where the bets actually go on the table) betting for a W or an L early in the shoe.
"L" is when the expectation is wrong. First rule is the Plus, Plus...the 3rd Plus will be a "W" in the W/L column.
Minus, Minus...the third Minus will be a "W" in the W/L column.
Otherwise, the "W" and "L" will be based on the upcoming "Direction Change" NUMBER in the Plus/Minus column which is PREDICTED from the Direction Change HISTORY. This is fully explained below under the heading called SWITCHING in Lesson # 4.
I have posted 3 so far. Want to be sure we all understand this and would like some feedback on this so far?
tx for sharing,
it seems interesting, at least original.
keep continue
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Lesson # 4 TRACKING Plus/Minus W/L (EXPECTATIONS) FOR MORE PROFIT:
One of the most frustrating experiences to a gambler is being wrong and losing multiple bets in a row.
Sometimes, it seems the cards just "know" what you are betting and will make sure you keep losing bet after bet.
In the past, our only defense was to stop betting after losing 3 or 4 bets in a row (which we STILL do even with this "enlightened" Bet Selection).
However, we can, with some degree of control WIN even when we (with our normal Bet Selection) are LOSING.
Wins and losses tend to "clump" together with most Bet Selections and particularly with this Bet Selection.
There are 3 patterns that can happen with the Pluses, Minuses and W's and L's.
1 – Multiple Wins: WWWWWW
2 – Multiple Losses: LLLLLLL
3 - Chop pattern; WLWLW
To jump ahead just a bit, we will ALWAYS bet WITH what has happened for 2 times in a row concerning our "Filtered" expected, anticipated outcomes from the B/P and patterns.
What that means is that if the Plus/Minus predictions have been right 2 times in a row = WW, we bet they will continue to be right and we will see continued "Ws."
If the Plus/Minus Predictions have been wrong two times in a row = LL, we will bet for an "L" on the next betting decision next betting TRIGGER happens and continue until there is a "W."
Lesson # 5
SWITCHING:
Anytime there have been 2 or more Pluses or Minuses or "W's" or "L's" in a row and the OPPOSITE event happens: ++++ - or ------ +
WWW L LLLL W ...that brings up a question.
QUESTION: Should we switch to what just happened, a W or an L IMMEDIATELY (after 1 switch) or give what we were following 2 chances?
EXAMPLES: WWWW L W LLLLLL W L – in both of these examples we would win the bet immediately following our first losing bet by giving what we were following (betting) a "second" chance. We call that a "2."
WWWW L L LLLL W W In these examples we would only lose one bet by SWITCHING right away when the direction changed. This is called a "1."
HOW DO YOU KNOW whether to
switch immediately ("1") or, to give the previous multiple event a second chance ("2")?
ANSWER: You simply TRACK the HISTORY of the "1s" and
"2s".
1 W Start of new Shoe – Outcome of
2 W Triggers
3 W
4 W
5 L
6 W = "2" We now know we should have given the "W" a second chance.
7 W
8 W
9 W
10 L
11 W = "2" Since the first 1-2 tracking number @ decision 6 was a "2" we would bet for a "2" at decision 11 also and not wait like we had to before we had the 1-2 HISTORY.
Same with the "1s"
WWWW L L (1) LLLLL W W (1)
NOW LIKE EVERTHING ELSE in baccarat, the 1s and 2s will not follow a perfect pattern, so we must have some rules about how to follow their patterns.
EXAMPLES of 1-2 HISTORY:
1 1 1 2 – Here I would bet for a repeat of the 2 on the next switch.
2 2 2 1 – Again bet for a 1 on the next switch.
1 2 – Bet for a 1
2 1 – bet for a 2
1 1 1 1 2 1 – bet next for a 2
2 2 2 2 1 2 – bet for a 1.
In both of the last two examples, the 1s and 2s are "CHOPPING" just like Banker and Player can chop.
Here is how I keep it straight. After 2 in a row or MORE of the same NUMBER (1 or 2) and it changes ( another DC, Direction Change like with the "Ws and Ls")...ALL the previous REPEATERS – all the numbers in RED above DISAPPEAR.
Now, it is like we have just started the shoe and the
NON RED numbers remaining are our new HISTORY for the 1/2 tracking in the shoe. This should help.
Now, I am a little confused at this point! a lot to remember, track and so on!!!! Love to hear comments and thoughts!
Lesson # 6 – Column # 3... The Second PM Column
In the really tough shoes, you will be betting on the expectations for the last column – Column 3.
These Plus's and Minus's are generated exactly the way the W's and L's in Column # 2 are generated. They are based on the consecutive outcomes and EXPECTATIONS from Column # 2.
WW...W = PLUS
WW...L = MINUS
LL...L = PLUS
LL...W = MINUS
Remember, the whole time we are tracking and filtering the banker player decisions through the 3 columns, we are EXPECTING something to happen.
We are looking for a CONTINUATION of what has happened the last 2 times in a row PP...P = W MM...M = W
WW...W = P (in Column 3)
LL...L = P (in Column # 3)
Lesson #7
THIRD SWITCHING POSSIBILITY:
PM and LW CHOPS
ANY time the pattern of PMP or MPM –or- WLW or LWL occurs, you may choose to follow it till it stops. WWWWW L W L Here we had a "2" (Switching number) because the W hit after the switch to
L...HOWEVER, it Switched AGAIN to another L. We are now in a FULL CHOP and need to follow that UNTIL we get 2 in a row of either LLs or WWs.
WWWWWW L W L W L W W....now follow the Ws of course.
These CHOPS can go on for 10 chops in a row.
If you want, you may also want to document and follow the CHOP history either "C+" = the WL or LW went to a 3rd chop... WWWW L W L
OR a "C-"... it stopped at 2 steps...WWWW L W W
Lesson #8 – Getting On The Bus
To preserve your hair and get on that potential long run as early as possible – follow the Special Rule below.
SPECIAL RULE FOR RUNS – STRAIGHT or CHOP:
When your Pattern tracking tells you to bet against a run/chop because of a pattern you are following and you LOSE because the RUN continues, bet FOR that Straight RUN or Chop RUN to CONTINUE.
You may be forced to bet AGAINST the run two times in a row, IF you have a Pattern running against it. Be very wary of betting against a run or chop run more than one time and losing if there has already been any run in shoe of 4 or more.
Close to the top of "what will make you want pull your hair out" is being the only player at the table betting AGAINST a beautiful RUN of Bankers, Players or CHOPS whiles everyone else is cleaning out the chip rack.
Remember this, trying to get in early like this can only cost you one bet while it could make you win the next 10 in a row.
Most experienced gamblers have had the experience of not getting on a run when they kind of thought they should have and when they miss the next potential winner cause the run CONTINUES they now develop temporary mental issues causing further hesitation and confusion about what to do.
I call it Missing The Bus Syndrome. With every bet that COULD HAVE BEEN WON that you keep watching causes you to sink deeper and deeper into that dark place of self-incrimination.
"How could I be so Stupid?"
The only time this getting on the train early will not work is if there just are no runs or chops past 4 in your present shoe. However most ALL shoes have one good run so be watchful.
Lesson # 9 - Staying On The RIGHT TRACK
With this new system you are learning, you now know that there is lot MORE to keep track of besides just the Banker and Player decisions – a LOT more.
Here is a list of what you need to track and document:
1 - Player Banker Decisions: Draw a CIRCLE in the player or banker box for each decision.
2 – B/I Outcomes: As soon as there have been 3 decisions in the shoe, you can start putting in the B's and I's in the upcoming chart lines under player and banker.
3 - The PLUS Minus Column: To the right of the B/I: Here the Pluses and Minuses are generated based on the flow of the B's and I's.
4 - The 1-2 Column just right of the P/M column.
Here we track the P/M SWITCHING.
When there is a direction change....BBBB...I or RRRR...N....I draw a CIRCLE in the upcoming decision box in the ½ Column to remind me to document the 1 or 2. For a
SWITCH to happen, there must be 2 or more Ns or Rs and
THEN a switch to the opposite.
5 - The W/L Column : just right of the P/M column. PP...the 3rd P is a "W." MM...the 3rd M is a "W"
MM P = L
PP M = L
6 - The 1-2 Column just right of the P/M column.
- Here we track the W/L SWITCHING.
When there is a direction change....WW...L or LLL...W....I draw a CIRCLE in the upcoming decision box in the ½ Column to remind me to document the 1 or 2.
For a SWITCH to happen, there must be 2 or more Ws or Ls and THEN a switch to the opposite. WWWW L LLLL W
If we are betting the W/L column and not the Plus/Minus column, there will be a NB – No Bet – the first time there is DC to give us our "History" of the 1-2 Switching NUMBER for the W/L column.
Otherwise, the "W" and "L" will be based on the upcoming "Direction Change" NUMBER from the Plus/Minus column.
After the first direction change, "W"s and "L"s are subject to the
ANTICIPATED Direction Change number HISTORY. The Video will help clear all this up when you see it.
7– The SECOND P/M Column
8 – The 1/2 Tracking for the Second P/M Column
9- B COLUMN This is where we track the 1 unit and 2 unit bets. In some of the shoes I send, there will be a "forward slash" / denoting a WIN and an X for a loss. I recommend you document the wins with a "W" and the losses with an "L."
10- The T Column is for the running plus or minus total of units
in the shoe.
Lesson # 10 – Bet Selection
The question always come up..."when and where do I make my first bet?"
First, you must wait for the B's and I's to generate a pattern of Plus and Minus first.
We are going to wait for PP or MM before making our first VIRTUAL wager on a 3rd P or M.
The other possibility is that there will be a PMP or MPM Chop.
When the shoe starts with that kind of Chop pattern, bet for the Chop to continue.
We actually have 3 patterns to follow for betting on the table. First is the P/M column and second is the W/L column and the last is the SECOND Plus/Minus Column (remember we named this our "3rd" Column at the start of the manual).
I start following the P/M early in the shoe because there is not much W/L history early.
If the P/M patterns remain stable meaning the ½ Switching is stable (not a lot of jumping around: 11211121. Here, we would lose the third, fourth, 5th, 7th and 8th second bet after the switch)...I follow the P/M until I have THREE "l's" of the last 4 decisions.
Three out of four "L's" is the signal that our Normal expectations in the N/R and P/M columns are breaking down.
At this point your betting will follow Column Number 2, the W /L Column.
I will always start betting the W/L column predictions at that point.
When you lose 3 out of 4 money bats following the "W/L" column (Number 3)...it is time to start following that last column for your money bets on the table.
One of the videos I made will demonstrate how strong this pattern can be even form the beginning of a shoe.
Here is where you really need to understand ALL the Direction change Tracking and 1/2 Switching because the strongest winning pattern in an otherwise unpredictable shoe is the when the THIRD Column is running ALL MINUSES. I have seen that happen for up to 19/20 decisions.
Using ANY OTHER normal bet selection, you would be getting hammered.
When you have switched from betting the P/M Column and are now betting the W/L or even the Second P/M Column, do not jump back and forth between the 3 columns.
Jumping around the columns will cause you to WILL lose more bets than if you stick with one and go virtual when you have lost 3-4 in a row and wait for a "Virtual or Paper win" before resuming money bets.
Remember the SEQUENCE:
1 - Banker and Player decisions give us the Plus and Minus outcomes using the "B & I" tracking. (with ½ Switching)
2- W and L Tracking (with ½ Switching) generates the SECOND P/M (3rd Column)
You will (see all the videos) need to put ALL the information for the upcoming decisions in the "rectangular Boxes" under Banker and Player columns.
This information includes: "B" or "I" + or – (Plus or Minus) and "W" or "L".
When you start following EITHER the W/L or SECOND P/M Columns for you $$$$ bets, put one more bit of VITAL tracking information in the box and that is a distinct "DOT" inside the box which tells you which one of the W or L sides you are following.
This is very important especially when you are following the MINUSES in the THIRD Column and betting AGAINST what you would normally be following in that W/L column.
Money Management:
It is a good practice, to get a "feel" for the shoe, to stay at 1 units bets for the first 2-4 bets if you are using any MM like #1 or #3 which call for an increased bet right away after losing a 1 unit bet.
All of my MM approaches are pretty conservative.
# 1 - The 1-2-2: First bet is 1 unit. Win or lose, the second bet is 2 units. If the 2 is won, go back to 1. Always go back to 1 after winning a 2.
If the 1 and 2 both lose bet 2 one more time. If the 1-2-2 are all lost, go back to 1 and start again.
Stop live betting and go virtual after 3 or 4 losses in a row and wait for a "paper" win before resuming betting. The pattern of whether or not your paper bets consistently win will guide your decision as to whether or not to go for the 4th. NEVER go past 4 losses in a row.
Bankroll for the shoe 6-10 units. I usually limit my risk to 8 units in any shoe using this MM.
# 2 - The Level 5:
1-1-1-1-1. If at the end of the last bet you are plus 1, 3 or 5 units, stay at the same 1 unit level.
If you are -1, -3 or -5 at the last bet, go to 2 unit bets...2-2-2-2-
2.
If you have recovered you losses from the 1's. go back to 1s.
If you are still minus in the shoe, make just enough more 2 unit bets to get plus in the shoe, then restart the 5 L1 bets.
In most shoes, you will not go past the L2 bets but do not hesitate to go the L3 bets if you have money left from your buy in of 8-10 units.
A fine point...If I am betting at L2 or L3 and win my first 2 or 3 in a row, I normally back down to 1 unit bets for the last 2-3 in that increased series.
THE "25/35"
This is in large font because as of the present date (5-14-15), this is my preferred way of betting.
It is very conservative and only goes 6 steps (after the 2-3 level table minimum bets following the Virtual win explain in the beginning of this chapter).
First bet: $25 continue betting $25 until the first loss
Second Bet: $35 – if won, go back to $25 – if lost
Third Bet: $45 – if won, go to $35...if won back down to base of $25
Fourth Bet: $55
Fifth Bet: $65
Last Bet: $ 75
Your base bet and incremental increases can be whatever you want: 50/75 100/50 500/750 1000/1500
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love to hear thoughts? Everyone think this is just crappola?
It looks very interesting, despite the complexity we need to test how it behaves BS in front of variance. MM and safebreaks that we wait for Vwin after 4 losses, looks very good.
Look at hand 33. He jumps on the player run and then at hand 34 jumps to bank? I do not see this anywhere in the manual. Am i missing something?
Please tell me what you think. I think he played this in hindsight. How could he know (according to rules) to jump off 5?
Thank you, Marinetech, for your post.
The score card may not his actual result. I assume he re-wrote it. And I believe his sometime made mistakes in his score card.
Quote from: marinetech on January 18, 2016, 11:51:09 PM
Look at hand 33. He jumps on the player run and then at hand 34 jumps to bank? I do not see this anywhere in the manual. Am i missing something?
Please tell me what you think. I think he played this in hindsight. How could he know (according to rules) to jump off 5?
You just used empirical science that's all. Confirmation Bias is the number one killer of scientific research. The other killer is deliberate misdirection, like when Al Gore went seeking his first government grant to do scientific research. Greed and exploitation are human frailties. All you have validated is that this guy can't validate anything. It's a hoax.
This system is a small modification of a very old system of Theo D'Alost,that in 1932 wrote a useless book about even chances at roulette.
He called the patterns Symmetrical and Asymmetrical,instead of Balanced and imbalanced.
He called Minus and plus, Equilibrium(E) and Deviation(D).
Played flat bet,he said that the system gives + 2% for the gambler.
Tested several times recently,the conclusion is that is a scam.
+2% result is a dream.
Don't waste your time.
Thanks for the generous posts marinetech.
I may have it all wrong, but this is my interpretation of Dr. Tom's system:
Looks like a complicated strategy for trend betting, that relies on Balance or Imbalance between Player and Banker over the last four decisions.
Dr. Tom:
"What that means is that if the Plus/Minus predictions have been right 2 times in a row = WW, we bet they will continue to be right and we will see continued "Ws."
From what I make of it, a "W" occurs for each hand that the trend continues.
If you guessed correctly two times in a row, then you should bet the trend will continue into the next hand.
If four consecutive decisions are out of balance, such as BBPB/B/B three times in a row, you should expect it would remain out of balance and bet the side what will keep it out of balance. In this case, bet P.
Similarly, four consecutive decisions remain in balance three times in a row BBBB/B/B, you should bet B.
As for switching, it appears that if he loses two consecutive bets, he will bet with the previous two lost bet pattern the next time he loses a bet.
Dr. Tom:
"ANSWER: You simply TRACK the HISTORY of the "1s" and
"2s".
1 W Start of new Shoe – Outcome of
2 W Triggers
3 W
4 W
5 L
6 W = "2" We now know we should have given the "W" a second chance.
7 W
8 W
9 W
10 L
11 W = "2" Since the first 1-2 tracking number @ decision 6 was a "2" we would bet for a "2" at decision 11 also and not wait like we had to before we had the 1-2 HISTORY. "
As for Chops, it appears he bets with them until the last four decisions are out of balance.
BPBPBP/P
He complicates the discussion with Plus and Minus and W and L, when it is simply a matter of either Player or Banker winning twice in a row.
Dr. Tom:
"ANY time the pattern of PMP or MPM –or- WLW or LWL occurs, you may choose to follow it till it stops. WWWWW L W L Here we had a "2" (Switching number) because the W hit after the switch to
L...HOWEVER, it Switched AGAIN to another L. We are now in a FULL CHOP and need to follow that UNTIL we get 2 in a row of either LLs or WWs.
WWWWWW L W L W L W W....now follow the Ws of course."
Is it easy to play in b and m
Thanks tor uploading shoes
Marinetech...I like this system and I think there is some value to it. Keep in mind that just because you know how to chart a system that is only the first step. When you play a system over and over you can then for lack of a better phrase work out the bugs of that system for yourself. A system in general should give a player many different bet selections when you observe the entire system. You might see things that happen over and over that work for you. I would also like to add that if a system and your bet selection is working for you stick with it. However if it is not working for you I would consider betting against it.
Wewin2222
Marinetech, thanks for sharing....Very interesting.
Do you have the videos that covers the lessons ??
Cheers
Quote from: andrebac on January 18, 2016, 04:52:56 PM
tx for sharing,
it seems interesting, at least original.
keep continue
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Maybe you should post info about Alvin't system?
Quote from: Gizmotron on January 18, 2016, 01:34:46 PMIt's obfuscation of coherent functionality for the purpose of misdirection and confusion. I can prove my supposition in this way. You won't be able to see a trend through observation techniques of visual dexterity and recognition.
The purpose is NOT to deliberately confuse. But your comment about getting bogged down in the minutiae exactly correct. The only real possibility of making domination bets is choosing one of the "columns" that happens to be trending positive at some certain point. But then switching back and forth is a nightmare. Lots of easier ways to identify trends in a shoe without making yourself crazy.
J
Can you please provide a picture of what Dr. Tom's chart looks like. Thanks
Quote from: Cowboy on February 13, 2016, 07:46:46 PM
Can you please provide a picture of what Dr. Tom's chart looks like. Thanks
read the 2nd page. shoes were posted
Thank you marinetech. I think I understand his system and chart all except the 3 'C' columns. What information gets recorded here?
When does a person's move from using the P/M of the B and I to the W/L and them the last P/M?
Also are you able to upload his videos?
Thanks so much again.
Hi Marinetech, thank you for posting Dr Tom baccarat Strategy. It sees like something is missing on Lesson 6.
For the third column to generate pluses and minuses, I know:
WW...W - Plus
LL...L - Plus
WW...L - Minus
LL...W - Minus
But what about
WL...L - ?
WL...W - ?
LW...W - ？
LW...L - ?
Do you have video ? i still not understand ...thanks
Hello , Who has the video please help to share i still not understand ....thanks in advanced.
regards,
I have all the videos...Im NOT sharing it tho!!...TOO MUCH VALUE!!....
Hey Lots of people been in boxing me about Doctor Tom Full system... Here's one!... https://vimeo.com/154654924 < but if you want the rest with Password inbox me...
Quote from: Qswaggerstupid18 on September 05, 2016, 07:12:42 PM
Hey Lots of people been in boxing me about Doctor Tom Full system... Here's one!... https://vimeo.com/154654924 < but if you want the rest with Password inbox me...
I made the request and then was asked to supply an email address. I did and got a first email to confirm my email address.
Then instead of the links and password, there is an offer to buy them for $500.
Posting this so the community knows what to expect.
Justin
Thanks Justme .... Two people have purchase the System from here.... But YES it's 500$ to get the FULL system instead of 700$ you would have to pay...I personally paid 4,500$ for the one on one training, I only offered the service since many people inbox me about it...but I don't have to sell it, cause I'm doing great with it....But NOTHING FREE....PEACE
This page is where his group is posting Live Play Reports
https://bacdoctor.com/live-play-reports/
Quote from: 21 Aces on September 06, 2016, 08:18:24 PM
This page is where his group is posting Live Play Reports
https://bacdoctor.com/live-play-reports/
It appears he is showing the results for winning shoes and not all of the losing ones.
He presents 88 shoes, but 60 of them were for single shoes of twenty to thirty hands played for the day.
Who would drive one to three hours to a casino to play a just few hands?
He numbers his shoes, so he likely plays more than one shoe for the day.
For example, he shows Shoe #2 for PARX Casino, 4/22/16.
Where is Shoe #1 or possibly Shoe #3 or Shoe #4?
You will notice he does this a number of times, (see Hollywood 3/10 #3, Resorts AC 3/10 #4,and others), presenting only Shoe #2 or#3 or #4, but not the others.
I suspect the shoes not shown were big losers.
Anybody have the videos???
3 videos here (one or more already mentioned), but I am sure you are referring to the one's included in the system and training. At least this is a glimpse.
https://bacdoctor.com/videos/
They have reviews of other instructors/ systems on his site and they still stand so that should be telling. If the reviews contained defamation via libel then someone would have surely pursued them successfully legally.
I HAVE THEM ALL... :)
Quote from: Qswaggerstupid18 on September 08, 2016, 06:47:03 AM
I HAVE THEM ALL... :)
Hawking them for $500? I guess the system isn't worth playing otherwise you'd be betting $500 chips like he mentions.
$4500.00 huh? I guess he took a page from his two mentors (Gunas and Alvin) and finally realized there is no point in selling the method for it's original cost of $500.00. I have the first three iterations of his method. Don't know if he has changed them again. My guess is he probably has.
The method originally was based on Alvin stuff and probably part of it still is. I guess he started out with Alvin's "Code" and then went to N/R and again to B/I (Balanced and Imbalanced) bet selection. Is he still using the B/I ??
The bet initial selection matters little. It's what you do after that. I did learn it and practiced the method. Very confusing. The beauty of it (for Tom - chaching) is that you pretty much need personal training to get it. Even the videos will make your eyes glaze over!
I have attached a shoe he played for explanation. Pretty easy to see that thee is a lot of work but . . . there really is no leading indicator which predicts more wins than losses. The interesting thing is that he monitors the wins and losses and then switches to bet "the losses" when things change. See decision #21 where he actually changes the betting for this first time to bet the "-" sign.
Anywhoooo. . . someone please just tell me if this is the method or if he has changed it again.
J
Oh. I would be happy to teach this to anyone who sends me $1,000.00! Why? Because I charge $1.00 a question and you'll probably have 1,000 of them!!!!!
Yes i agree on decision #21 he should bet on player. why he bet banker ? anybody could explain...
thanks
If you Knew the whole system...you will see why he bet on Banker, it was base off of last decision #20 ... you right it's not easy to learn!!... took me almost 2 weeks to learn it all...NOW IM A MASTER!
There simply is no system or method can beat or prove to be a consistent winner the majority of the times in baccarat. If so, the game would be pulled so fast from all casinos it would make your head spin. The only thing and only one thing that can win at baccarat is an experienced player that knows how to follow or not follow a trend or pattern as it is happening, and IMO there needs to be a bit of karma/luck telling him when to stop for the session as well.
Furthermore, there is no multiple shoes alike that will be on a consistent long term basis, never ever ever.
Anyone telling you anything other than that is a liar. Played the game since 1980 or so in many jurisdictions. Funny how someone exposed to the game for a short period of time (usually) will come up with off the wall ideas and systems that can never prevail.
Before anyone give $ for anything just think, if it really worked it would be worth hundreds of thousand of $ to the High Limit players.
Seriously, play the game in a live casino and you will see whatever system you have bought or designed or thinking of, will prevail on a certain shoe and then will not with much greater negative results than positive ones.
The object of selling a system in gambling usually will hinge on confusion and mystery while mixing in a bit of fantasy. Those that had a taste of the game usually will view those traits as $$$ signs and wind up shelling out their own pocket money to get the so-called elite and secret system to beat the game. There is no such thing, there is no such wager than can continually prevail positively in baccarat. The problem or let's say confusion, is that every wager and system type will ultimately win-----sometimes. Sometimes a tiny bit, sometimes 50/50, sometimes a lot, but the same way that system won, you could have won the exact same way by guessing also. Seriously.
Quote from: 21 Aces on September 08, 2016, 02:48:26 AM
3 videos here (one or more already mentioned), but I am sure you are referring to the one's included in the system and training. At least this is a glimpse.
https://bacdoctor.com/videos/
They have reviews of other instructors/ systems on his site and they still stand so that should be telling. If the reviews contained defamation via libel then someone would have surely pursued them successfully legally.
Seriously, the good stuff would be tips and techniques that are not secret or the holy grail or even a system. >>> More than anything else, let's call it---'AWARENESS from EXPERIENCE'. In a nutshell, that is the best anyone can package to sell in this field that would be valid. Anyone can harp/market 'tips/techniques/experience' into a package of training and push it off as gospel and a way to win. At best, that is all it is and that is all it will ever be.
if anything is 50/50 it can be beat mathematically with simple progression, that's why there's a house edge...if you can win 50/50 of your sessions then well......read my first sentence
Quote from: bruceg on September 09, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
if anything is 50/50 it can be beat mathematically with simple progression, that's why there's a house edge...if you can win 50/50 of your sessions then well......read my first sentence
Not always
Stick around and play the game, keep that in mind and see what happens. Problem for most, is that it and will and it does---at times.
Quote from: Jimske on September 09, 2016, 01:49:09 AM
Oh. I would be happy to teach this to anyone who sends me $1,000.00! Why? Because I charge $1.00 a question and you'll probably have 1,000 of them!!!!!
Good one.
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LOL...
Any updates?
Other people have said they learned in in 2 weeks and doing great with it.
Invest and go for it if you believe in systems.
BTW, I highly doubt casinos and game manufactures pay any attention to those systems advertised, otherwise they would have pulled the games long ago. So, maybe you will stand out and do great with it and clock the casino! Unlike the tens of thousands that tried those mechanical systems of one type or another. But, whatever you do-be careful and sworn to secrecy not to tell anyone at the casino how you cleaned them out, or all the tables will be removed from the floor!!!!
So speed is of the essence in deploying that method of 'cleaning the casinos out of their cash'.
All, IMO.
Looks like some experienced players have reviewed it in detail so just curious as to what their latest view is. Just like I am curious about the TKO group, etc. People start posting up a storm and then nothing more is stated.
I mean, I can't speak for others, but I'm still doing GREAT with it, But I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY one using his system the way I am. I have EXTREME patience, Great money management, displince.... Get a win goal and stop loss!...track EVERYTHING you do...Not everyday will be a success...But most are!! This year alone I'm up 50+ units inside the casinos. Too some might be like that's not alot!... It is when you're throwing $1,000 a CHIP!...I'm not quite there.... Lol but I am throwing down $250 a hand now!!.... Whatever you do, just make it work for you!!.. ALSO TEST TEST TEST before playing real money ... until you tweak an see consistently and what you doing... trust me it can happen...But also let me say I'm still a NEWBIE in this game, just started like 8months ago!!, Just have to keep everything REAL and straight forward!!
Quote from: Qswaggerstupid18 on September 05, 2016, 09:25:47 PM
Thanks Justme .... Two people have purchase the System from here.... But YES it's 500$ to get the FULL system instead of 700$ you would have to pay...I personally paid 4,500$ for the one on one training, I only offered the service since many people inbox me about it...but I don't have to sell it, cause I'm doing great with it....But NOTHING FREE....PEACE
Q_STUPID-18, Just to keep things REAL and STRAIGHT, you join the forum, and on first post tell us how you only won 70u that month (poor thing you), then 1 week later you are selling DR.SCAMS bacc system for $500, but you paid $4500 for, a newbie selling someones system for 1/10th of what they paid for it, HA HA HA, your really doing great, but feel for other people so sell it to help them, HA HA. Now you have a SPECIAL TWEAK to the system LOL. You posted that DR.SCAM is suing you, post when you and the doctor attend court i will try to make it will be a good laugh.
PEACE
Quote from: Qswaggerstupid18 on September 05, 2016, 09:25:47 PM
Thanks Justme .... Two people have purchase the System from here.... But YES it's 500$ to get the FULL system instead of 700$ you would have to pay...I personally paid 4,500$ for the one on one training, I only offered the service since many people inbox me about it...but I don't have to sell it, cause I'm doing great with it....But NOTHING FREE....PEACE
Vo, we have been through this stuff before. There is no set mechanical or other kind of system that will profit from shoe to shoe to shoe and from property to property to property.
There are our own triggers, which are extremely volatile in most cases, out of 10 visits they might hit 9 times and out of the next 10 visits they hit 3 times overall. Or anything in between. Or a winning streak for 3 months and then a losing streak for triple that.
But as far as a system with a set wagering pattern, IMO, one does not exist that will prevail over numerous visits. I am not even going to the proverbial 'in the long run'.
Lol Vo, +70 units is great for me in a month!, again it doesn't take me no more than 10 - 20mins a day to play, but I'm VERY happen with my results, Especially if it's CONSISTENT!!!! again that's why I'm currently building my bankroll to go inside an have $1,000 as a base bet, we taking about $70,000... IM ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE... But alrelax, everyone says LONG TERM!!... what's exactly long term!!??.... A HUGE professional player once told me 2 years is considered long terms!... Or does it go by a certain amount of units you're up ... Maybe +1000 units or +10,000 units!???... Thanks
Sorry, I guess my update request was more for marinetech and others who went through a lot of work to diligently evaluate the system. Just wanted to see what the latest view was.
Qswaggerstupid18 has stated that he is applying the system successfully and with his own spin on it. It is possible isn't it? If you break down a system and look for where it does best then you could just apply it when you think you have run across that situation.
The 3rd collumn goes against the WL collumn?
When the expectation is wrong is becomes a - and if its correct it becomes a +
WL switching number 1111. the next would be a 1.
If the result is a 1, 3rd column annotes a +
If the result is a 2, 3rd column annotes a -
Is this correct?
One member says: "It's obfuscation of coherent functionality for the purpose of misdirection and confusion". (which I just seen today and below is what I wrote last night)
I say: "All they do is put a twist on the truth and the outcomes creating a grey area and then convince you that the key to easy profits is knowing how to conquer that area which is really only their own exaggerated make believe"!!!!
Quote from: Qswaggerstupid18 on January 21, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
Lol Vo, +70 units is great for me in a month!, again it doesn't take me no more than 10 - 20mins a day to play, but I'm VERY happen with my results, Especially if it's CONSISTENT!!!! again that's why I'm currently building my bankroll to go inside an have $1,000 as a base bet, we taking about $70,000... IM ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE... But alrelax, everyone says LONG TERM!!... what's exactly long term!!??.... A HUGE professional player once told me 2 years is considered long terms!... Or does it go by a certain amount of units you're up ... Maybe +1000 units or +10,000 units!???... Thanks
Hello! Anybody still playing this method with success? Please share your experience.
I've been using this system for at least a week now and just like Baccarat, there are times you will win, and there are also certainty times when nothing you do is working out. This is perhaps because i'm playing with an extremely tight bankroll and this system almost always demands for a bet to made for each and every line of the shoe once the pattern has been established.
I have been trying to employ Alrelax's frame of mind and methods he uses such as 1-3-2-6 and 1/3,1-3/1-3 because overall, it seems more logical and it is less taxing on the brain not having to chart out each and every single outcome of a shoe and just play it as it is, knowing that there are times when you are lucky and times when you are not and the real advantage is to know what to do given these circumstances. Given his decade of experience, i don't find he has any reason to lie so I find his concepts and ideology really intriguing and still trying to practice it.
As for Dr. Tom and his system, he is a helpful man by heart, I have personally sent mails and text and was given prompt replies on many occasions but if consistency don't show, then all that ultimately goes to waste. I am still really conflicted on whether to stick to Dr. Tom or just play the game as it is as Alrelax calls it, that the harsh reality is that there is no system that can beat the casino long term.
However I'd still like to find out if there are any Student out there of Dr. Tom's and how they are managing/profiting from his system. I myself had bought the system because of desperation before stumbling upon this forum and would just like to get some fresh perspectives. Thank you
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 06:11:30 AM
I've been using this system for at least a week now and just like Baccarat, there are times you will win, and there are also certainty times when nothing you do is working out. This is perhaps because i'm playing with a very tight bankroll and this system almost always demands for a bet to made for each and every line of the shoe once the pattern has been established.
I have been trying to employ Alrelax's frame of mind and methods he use such as 1-3-2-6 and 1/3,1-3/1-3 because overall, it seems more logical and it is less taxing on the brain to not having to chart out each and every single outcome of a shoe and just play it as it is, knowing the that there are times when you are lucky and times when you are not and the real advantage is to know what to do given these circumstances. Given his decade of experience, i don't find he has any reason to lie so I find his concepts and ideology really intriguing and still trying to practice it.
As for Dr. Tom and his system, he is a helpful man by heart, i've have personally sent mails and text and was given prompt replies on many occasions but if consistency don't show, then all that ultimately goes to waste. I am still really conflicted on whether to stick to Dr. Tom or just play the game as it is as Alrelax calls it, that the harsh reality is that there is no system that can beat the casino long term.
I still like to find out if there are any Student out there of Dr. Tom's and how they are managing/profiting from his system. I myself had bought the system because of desperation before stumbling upon this forum but i'd just like to get some fresh perspectives. Thank you
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From Alrelax:
I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it when I am successful is because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions come got it from always and not coming out at from one way the way that most systems teach and preach.the times that I come out the games I am playing one way I usually prop it a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it. for example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table 1 a couple hundred thousand we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways if we used one layer set method it never would have happened and we know that for a fact.but I am very curious about dr. Tom and send him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask them questions and he's never answered him and the reason why you never answered him I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them.I had the shoe clearly posted from the board itself at the casino and the scorecard why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good. I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way I either lose money or make very little. the times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way bidding decision let's call that the direction door but I used all directions which I've also written about which would be 8 directions. and when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers?please answer.
Ahh.. that's really interesting. It has been awhile since I've come across a testimonial other than those from his website that claims that they make a tidy profit over time with his system and I just want to justify the money and sheer time i spent learning his system from scratch. I guess it is hard just to move on from this experience but somewhere in my heart, I still hope that this system will work out for me or if its just another scam as many have claimed. I personally have not invested a lot into his system in terms of capital but throughout charting several shoes, I am becoming more and more convinced that this will work. Of course, when actual bets are involved, this makes it more dangerous as I find it hard to leave the shoe stuck with a mindset that this system will eventually pull through and the reality strikes when I'm left with absolutely nothing.
I enjoy consistency and long term profits that's why I hold such high regards for this system but if reality and consensuses show that this System is really nothing more than just a scam, then i really need a wake up call.
From Alrelax:
I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it when I am successful is because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions come got it from always and not coming out at from one way the way that most systems teach and preach.the times that I come out the games I am playing one way I usually prop it a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it. for example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table 1 a couple hundred thousand we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways if we used one layer set method it never would have happened and we know that for a fact.but I am very curious about dr. Tom and send him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask them questions and he's never answered him and the reason why you never answered him I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them.I had the shoe clearly posted from the board itself at the casino and the scorecard why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good. I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way I either lose money or make very little. the times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way bidding decision let's call that the direction door but I used all directions which I've also written about which would be 8 directions. and when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers?please answer.
^This is not a testimonial about Dr. Tom's Baccarat System, but some notes by alrelax on how he plays which is how most successful players play.
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 06:51:29 AM
Ahh.. that's really interesting. It has been awhile since I've come across a testimonial other than those from his website that claims that they make a tidy profit over time with his system and I just want to justify the money and sheer time i spent learning his system from scratch. I guess it is hard just to move on from this experience but somewhere in my heart, I still hope that this system will work out for me or if its just another scam as many have claimed. I personally have not invested a lot into his system in terms of capital but throughout charting several shoes, I am becoming more and more convinced that this will work. Of course, when actual bets are involved, this makes it more dangerous as I find it hard to leave the shoe stuck with a mindset that this system will eventually pull through and the reality strikes when I'm left with absolutely nothing.
I enjoy consistency and long term profits that's why I hold such high regards for this system but if reality and consensuses show that this System is really nothing more than just a scam, then i really need a wake up call.
The phone I was typing on his too hard to make Corrections on and edit everything I will respond to it from my office in the morning I will correct my typos and I will give you some more details since you seem interested and you seem sincere I'll put some time into it in the morning check back thank you
Quote from: alrelax on June 19, 2017, 07:59:22 AM
The phone I was typing on his too hard to make Corrections on and edit everything I will respond to it from my office in the morning I will correct my typos and I will give you some more details since you seem interested and you seem sincere I'll put some time into it in the morning check back thank you
Thanks for reaching out Alrelax. I'm a real fan of your blog (specifically your 10 Series) and the things you share are all based on decades of experience (painful or not) and the practicality and realism of your comments have been very enlightening. Naturally, knowing that your common responses to Baccarat systems are nothing more than just another fraud that does not and will not work, I have become increasingly skeptical, cautious and conflicted having spent 2 long weeks developing Dr. Tom's Baccarat System. Stuck in my financial crisis, I was naive to pin all my hopes into Dr.Tom's System and although it maybe devastating news if his system is just another scam, then I could at least move on before my bankroll is totally destroyed by the System that I have regarded as my only hope.
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 09:18:42 AM
I have become increasingly skeptical, cautious and conflicted having spent 2 long weeks developing Dr. Tom's Baccarat System. Stuck in my financial crisis, I was naive to pin all my hopes into Dr.Tom's System and although it maybe devastating news if his system is just another scam, then I could at least move on before my bankroll is totally destroyed by the System that I have regarded as my only hope.
Did you read this thread before you wasted your money? The complete 'Dr. Tom's System' is posted free in the first pages of this thread. There is no reason for anyone to purchase it.
I cannot comment personally on Dr. Tom's system. I will not get involved with it. I will not get involved with any of them. IMO, a system cannot work consistently with the results I am looking for. However, I do not play for 1 or 3 or 5 unit win, per day, per casino visit. I have stated this before.
If you have something that can produce a guaranteed few unit win, each and every time--then quit your job and play baccarat for a couple hundred dollars a day. I cannot see it, I cannot believe in it and I do not seek it. However, I play baccarat and have for decades. All styles and the majority of it being in the high limit rooms. I do not play on-line and only in real B&M casinos in the USA.
If you are trying to make money or you have to make money by gambling, to me that is a very bad and precarious situation to be in. Sure, each and every time I go to the casino--I sure would love to make large amounts of money--but that is impossible for the many reasons I have so wrote about. Baccarat, has huge influential abilities that can absolutely help you or hurt you in the casino. I have wrote about these and they are available within my Blog on this board and a good deal of that info can be found in my series of 10 articles sticky'ed in the first page of my Blog.
As far as making money, needing money desperately and attempting to use baccarat as a savior for anything related to those, I offer the following advise. You will become ultra conservative and you will miss all or the highest majority of the best or the better sections of each shoe that are easy and ripe for the picking--when you 'have to' or 'desperately need to recover' money for any reason by playing baccarat. A good deal of the decision making process, IMO--is made with your psyche instead of how you think they are made, on logic and reasoning only.
Here is an example. The other night. Me and my buddy were winning huge on that one shoe and most of the others were mad, upset, attempting to recover from their losses, etc. They finally jumped on our bandwagon and made great money on that shoe. We influenced them, both verbally and non-verbally. Even after they had tens of thousands of dollars, none of them wanted to risk it towards the end and they were all dead-set against anything happening at the end of the shoe the way it so obviously did, 2 runs, side by side, of 8 bankers followed by 8 players. That is what I am saying easy pickings is all about.
Here is another example. 3 or 4 and cut. That is so old school and so popular to this day. Wait for 3 and then play the cut or wait for 4 and then play the cut. If you lose and it repeats then you double up and keep trying as the reasoning is, 1's and 2's are easy, 3's and 4's happen but considerably less, and 5's and 6's happen but with a huge deficit to 1's to 4 repeats, etc. Okay, they whole table would have been wagering against those runs of 8's, I know it 100%. In my case I was on it from the beginning. $400, then $800, then $1,600 and then pull down each and every win and stack it up. Lose the last one when it cuts. Okay, 3 go by and then the common wager for so many baccarat players is, wager against it. Great, let's say you did, $200 against. After the 3 repeats appear you put $200 out there. Lose, then $400, then $800, then $1,600.00. You lost $3,000.00. Plain and simple. Can you place one or two or even three wagers against a run from happening and win? Sure you can! But you can lose also. Do I wager against a run or like I say, 'a cut' with a 3 or 4 repeat happening, sure I do. But let's look at it with that card and that shoe I posted yesterday. If I am not mistaking, if you used that protocol you would have prevailed and won 14 times if you wagered for the cut, say after the 2nd one appeared. You would have had to be abled to double up you first wager for 4 times, I would only count it or do it form the 3rd to the 5th repeat, I would stop after that. So if you are wagering only $50.00 then you have to be prepared to wager 4 times, so a total of $750.00 for the four attempts to make $50.00. Like I said, you would have prevailed and won 14 times in that shoe. But you would have also lost on 5 runs of not wagering for past the 5th repeat, etc. And you would have lost far greater than what you already won on the ones that did cut after 2-3-4 or 5 if you stayed on those until at least the 5th repeat.
So, confusing? Not really. Get in and out? If you do, you might never have the landslide or the great shoe that some of us do from time to time. If you stay in you can lose all your winning with a set wagering protocol. Because that protocol will probably work sometimes and at other times it will fail terribly.
Is their magic? No. Is there anything you can do that will help you. Yes. And I wrote about those also in my Blog or elsewhere on this board. And the biggest one you can do, IMO---is to come at the game from all sides and 'see the game' for what is instantly happening. Using a protocol of pre-conceived nature will never allow you to do that. You are looking 'north' only and you are ignoring the other directions, which are-northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west and northwest. You will miss all the easy pickings that do offering themselves in all those times that you were looking north only.
The other factors are a plenty including psych. Please refer back to my Blog and you will understand what I am trying to bring out.
I hope this helped you. Baccarat is a complicated game to understand and prevail at. You can make a lot of money with it, easily or with great pains and you can also lose a lot of money with it--also easily or with great pains. But I do know one thing for 100% certain, the game of baccarat cannot be beat with any written protocol unless you have a large bank roll and you are only going for a few unit win per day and that win may very well be postponed due to your inability to wager because of table limits. Can you still lose with a system like that, sure. The system I am referring to is one of picking one side and continually wagering until it cuts. But you need a large bank roll and hopefully you do not ever get 8 to 15 repeating streaks. The flip side is, those runs are where the real quick and large money is usually made, at least by the old school baccarat players anyway.
Thanks, hope I gave you some help.
To be fair, I have experienced and noticed a degree of consistency in Win/Stop limit that Alrelax disagree with, but this system aims to yield 4-6 units every shoe with a 10unit buy in. Personally, i go for 3 units per shoe and have managed to, on virtual/paper bets, met this goal consistently over 5-10 Shoes. I know that this belief is a bad basis for long-term results but having done this system across a short term time span, short term meaning 5-10shoes played across a single day for 3 days, i just charged right into the casino hoping to replicate what I've been doing for the past 3 days.
The first 3 shoes were great, i made 9 Units over 3 shoes that lasted about 10-15minutes each, but coming to my 4th and 5th Shoe, i was absolutely crushed when i lost all the units i've won and more to 2 consecutive shoes. Initially, I had the belief that I could "make it back in the next shoe" when the first shoe was lost but i was proven wrong when I took a huge dip into my bankroll. Dr. Tom plays this system with minor step in Negative Progression and 10Units can easily be lost if you accumulated 5 consecutive losses in a shoe and that was what happened to me.
But to answer your question, no i did not find this forum when I first sourced for a Baccarat System.
Quote from: marinetech on January 18, 2016, 12:07:30 PM
A friend of mine in Chicago bought Dr. Tom's system off of ebay for 750. He has shared it with me and I will share it with you, step by step. I will post each step and at the very end, shoes that correspond with the play.
It is a little difficult to grasp (at least for me) but maybe we can all help each other. Here we go. Once we are all on the same page, I will submit the next step (10 in total).
Step #1
There will be 3 "betting Columns" generated by the raw banker and player decisions. These betting columns start being determined by the last 4 B/P decisions being converted into B's and I's which stand for Balanced and Imbalanced. (Lesson # 1 at the end of this information)
The first column is result of our expectations of upcoming B and I outcomes. These are the Plus's and Minus's (Lesson # 2)
The second column...the W's and L's are the result of our expectations from Column 1. (Lesson # 3)
The third Column (another set of Plus's and Minus's) is the result of our expected outcomes from column 2. (Lesson # 5)
How To See The Banker And Player Decisions Differently From All The Other Players at The Table: How To Convert To The "B and I."
Use the RAW banker/player decisions to generate the "B" and "I" Patterns.
B = Balanced (ALL the last FOUR decisions were the same BBBB, PPPP or 2 of each B&P – in any order)
I = Imbalanced (One Banker or Player and 3 of the other)
Take the last 4 decisions:
Here are the BALANCED...BBBB PPPP PBPB BPBP PPBB BBPP BPPB PBBP
In other words, all 4 are the SAME OR 2 of EACH...the number of B/P decisions are in BALANCE.
IMBALANCED is the opposite: 3 of one (B/P) and 1 of the other: PBBB PBPP PPBP PPPB BPPP BPBB BBPB BBBP
Just cover literally with your finger, or in your mind's eye, the last 3 decisions and you will know immediately which side will result in an I and which will generate a B.
For your homework, take two old shoes of around 60 decisions each or flip a coin (heads=banker, tails=player)
And mark all decisions, after the third one because you need FOUR, either B(alanced) or I(mbalanced).
Yes, this is the last iteration that I kow of. But it is missing columns. He has a W/L column also that requires for adjustments in placements. Perhaps Poss can verify this. It is NOT a simple system to learn OR play.
Dr. Tom a good guy and he's a believer. It is my understanding he is charging 7k for it?
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 12:49:33 PM
To be fair, I have experienced and noticed a degree of consistency in Win/Stop limit that Alrelax disagree with, but this system aims to yield 4-6 units every shoe with a 10unit buy in. Personally, i go for 3 units per shoe and have managed to, on virtual/paper bets, met this goal consistently over 5-10 Shoes. I know that this belief is a bad basis for long-term results but having done this system across a short term time span, short term meaning 5-10shoes played across a single day for 3 days, i just charged right into the casino hoping to replicate what I've been doing for the past 3 days.
The first 3 shoes were great, i made 9 Units over 3 shoes that lasted about 10-15minutes each, but coming to my 4th and 5th Shoe, i was absolutely crushed when i lost all the units i've won and more to 2 consecutive shoes. Initially, I had the belief that I could "make it back in the next shoe" when the first shoe was lost but i was proven wrong when I took a huge dip into my bankroll. Dr. Tom plays this system with minor step in Negative Progression and 10Units can easily be lost if you accumulated 5 consecutive losses in a shoe and that was what happened to me.
But to answer your question, no i did not find this forum when I first sourced for a Baccarat System.
I can give you 10 to 20 systems that I call triggers with some kind of progressions that will win. But the down side is, they will also lose. There is no system, IMO--that can consistently win all the time or at least the highest majority of the times. It cannot happen, it is impossible.
Buy them all and try. What do you have to lose? You basically answer your own questions and thoughts and concerns--but when money is involved you do not want to realize the truth or reality.
And, that is the very reason authors of systems in gambling, weight loss and other magical and miracle things that a human desires is a money maker for most experts/authors/inventors, etc.
The problem we all face no matter if using a system, triggers or guessing is---if we win, how much should we stop at? If we are losing, should we continue to play to recover and eventually win? If we have won or lost and we are dead-even, should we continue? There is no magic and anything can happen, that is the game of baccarat. You cannot predict the results yet to be produced.
As system of any type, invented or commercially sold--only can prevail when the shoe produces a certain event or a series of events in some kind of order. That is it--nothing else. The problem is, the shoe will produce everything and random times with no schedule. You might have exactly what you are looking for and then with or without continuance--the shoe will allow you to win or cause you to lose. There are so many other factors that players can employ to help themselves or hurt themselves. That is why the list of pro's and con's can be debated on either side. Hopefully you understand what I am trying to make you conscious of.
Period, I stop here-I don't like to discredit anyone or spar about this stuff, I rather use my energy and motivation for something else. I am not in the commercial baccarat sales business, so it's all good to me. I tired to open a seminar and course business in Las Vegas and the Nevada Postsecondary Education Department reviewed my course outlines and details and they made an official determination of the State of Nevada that people could and would advance in their jobs and employment if they took my seminars/courses, so the state decided that I would be a school and required to have licensed teachers and all the regulatory procedures and fees that go along with that. They had two outside casino certified expert consultants review my outlines and that is how the state determined their decision. I must know something from my experience, contacts and research in baccarat, blackjack and casino operations. BTW--my outlines do not teach a betting system.
Quote from: alrelax on June 19, 2017, 12:43:34 PM
I cannot comment personally on Dr. Tom's system. I will not get involved with it. I will not get involved with any of them. IMO, a system cannot work consistently with the results I am looking for. However, I do not play for 1 or 3 or 5 unit win, per day, per casino visit. I have stated this before.
If you have something that can produce a guaranteed few unit win, each and every time--then quit your job and play baccarat for a couple hundred dollars a day. I cannot see it, I cannot believe in it and I do not seek it. However, I play baccarat and have for decades. All styles and the majority of it being in the high limit rooms. I do not play on-line and only in real B&M casinos in the USA.
If you are trying to make money or you have to make money by gambling, to me that is a very bad and precarious situation to be in. Sure, each and every time I go to the casino--I sure would love to make large amounts of money--but that is impossible for the many reasons I have so wrote about. Baccarat, has huge influential abilities that can absolutely help you or hurt you in the casino. I have wrote about these and they are available within my Blog on this board and a good deal of that info can be found in my series of 10 articles sticky'ed in the first page of my Blog.
As far as making money, needing money desperately and attempting to use baccarat as a savior for anything related to those, I offer the following advise. You will become ultra conservative and you will miss all or the highest majority of the best or the better sections of each shoe that are easy and ripe for the picking--when you 'have to' or 'desperately need to recover' money for any reason by playing baccarat. A good deal of the decision making process, IMO--is made with your psyche instead of how you think they are made, on logic and reasoning only.
Here is an example. The other night. Me and my buddy were winning huge on that one shoe and most of the others were mad, upset, attempting to recover from their losses, etc. They finally jumped on our bandwagon and made great money on that shoe. We influenced them, both verbally and non-verbally. Even after they had tens of thousands of dollars, none of them wanted to risk it towards the end and they were all dead-set against anything happening at the end of the shoe the way it so obviously did, 2 runs, side by side, of 8 bankers followed by 8 players. That is what I am saying easy pickings is all about.
Here is another example. 3 or 4 and cut. That is so old school and so popular to this day. Wait for 3 and then play the cut or wait for 4 and then play the cut. If you lose and it repeats then you double up and keep trying as the reasoning is, 1's and 2's are easy, 3's and 4's happen but considerably less, and 5's and 6's happen but with a huge deficit to 1's to 4 repeats, etc. Okay, they whole table would have been wagering against those runs of 8's, I know it 100%. In my case I was on it from the beginning. $400, then $800, then $1,600 and then pull down each and every win and stack it up. Lose the last one when it cuts. Okay, 3 go by and then the common wager for so many baccarat players is, wager against it. Great, let's say you did, $200 against. After the 3 repeats appear you put $200 out there. Lose, then $400, then $800, then $1,600.00. You lost $3,000.00. Plain and simple. Can you place one or two or even three wagers against a run from happening and win? Sure you can! But you can lose also. Do I wager against a run or like I say, 'a cut' with a 3 or 4 repeat happening, sure I do. But let's look at it with that card and that shoe I posted yesterday. If I am not mistaking, if you used that protocol you would have prevailed and won 14 times if you wagered for the cut, say after the 2nd one appeared. You would have had to be abled to double up you first wager for 4 times, I would only count it or do it form the 3rd to the 5th repeat, I would stop after that. So if you are wagering only $50.00 then you have to be prepared to wager 4 times, so a total of $750.00 for the four attempts to make $50.00. Like I said, you would have prevailed and won 14 times in that shoe. But you would have also lost on 5 runs of not wagering for past the 5th repeat, etc. And you would have lost far greater than what you already won on the ones that did cut after 2-3-4 or 5 if you stayed on those until at least the 5th repeat.
So, confusing? Not really. Get in and out? If you do, you might never have the landslide or the great shoe that some of us do from time to time. If you stay in you can lose all your winning with a set wagering protocol. Because that protocol will probably work sometimes and at other times it will fail terribly.
Is their magic? No. Is there anything you can do that will help you. Yes. And I wrote about those also in my Blog or elsewhere on this board. And the biggest one you can do, IMO---is to come at the game from all sides and 'see the game' for what is instantly happening. Using a protocol of pre-conceived nature will never allow you to do that. You are looking 'north' only and you are ignoring the other directions, which are-northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west and northwest. You will miss all the easy pickings that do offering themselves in all those times that you were looking north only.
The other factors are a plenty including psych. Please refer back to my Blog and you will understand what I am trying to bring out.
I hope this helped you. Baccarat is a complicated game to understand and prevail at. You can make a lot of money with it, easily or with great pains and you can also lose a lot of money with it--also easily or with great pains. But I do know one thing for 100% certain, the game of baccarat cannot be beat with any written protocol unless you have a large bank roll and you are only going for a few unit win per day and that win may very well be postponed due to your inability to wager because of table limits. Can you still lose with a system like that, sure. The system I am referring to is one of picking one side and continually wagering until it cuts. But you need a large bank roll and hopefully you do not ever get 8 to 15 repeating streaks. The flip side is, those runs are where the real quick and large money is usually made, at least by the old school baccarat players anyway.
Thanks, hope I gave you some help.
Thank you for taking your time and sharing your experience with me. I can say for sure that your Blog and comments had definitely became an eye-opener to me. Although it was by chance that I stumbled upon your blog, it is really the truth and reality that you provide that I find myself questioning my own beliefs and ideology. I have since consciously taken the effort to adopt and practice being in the right frame of mind and I find that my greatest weakness is not knowing when to give up. I could have multiplied my buy in by tenfold in probably a days work but lose it all within the next 30minutes once it has taken even the slightest dip and this compulsive behavior to win it all back, although I am consciously aware of it, never fails to see me placing my last dollar for a chance of redemption and it always end with the same miserable fate. Your Blog effectively tackles all these struggles and I have since tried to absorb as much as I can, all the information and experiences to make a better Baccarat Player and would like to see the day when i can finally play this game casually and not a fight for survival every single day that i partake this journey.
Quote from: Jimske on June 19, 2017, 01:21:40 PM
Yes, this is the last iteration that I kow of. But it is missing columns. He has a W/L column also that requires for adjustments in placements. Perhaps Poss can verify this. It is NOT a simple system to learn OR play.
Dr. Tom a good guy and he's a believer. It is my understanding he is charging 7k for it?
I'm not too sure what you are trying to ask here but I would be more than happy to verify your concerns.
To me, this "simple" system is broken down into 2 separate parts, the first being how to chart a shoe and the second is knowing how your bet selections are influenced by the results you had charted.
It took me 3-5 Days of intensive learning to properly chart the shoe but it has taken me over a week now to learn how Bet Selections are done. The Original System Bet Selection had been designed in a way that each and every line always demands for a Bet to be made. However, by playing this system religiously, you will soon realize that if you are not careful or if your luck is just bad or have a limited bank roll to fund your experiments, you could easily lose your whole buy-in of 10Units in just losing 5 Consecutive Hands which is to my experience, a very common occurrence.
As like alrelax mentioned, even with all these knowledge combined that lets you play this System the way it is meant to be played, there is perhaps no Holy Grail that provides win consistently enough for you in the LONG RUN to have the confidence to make a living off, else everybody would be doing it which is not the case.
I don't want to speculate but to me, Dr. Tom is good guy by nature and has provided me the reassurance that this system can pull through which is what I have been falling for all this time given my circumstances. His Home Course which cost $750 allow you access to his personal email/text/calls and he will supply you what you have seen in this Thread in the form of Microsoft Word Documents together with Video Links (password enabled) that aids and reinforces the lesson that you find in said Word Documents. Of course, the added advantage is being able to learn this System from the System developer himself (for 3months) and should you not have paid that amount, would not be given any "help" whatsoever.
He also supplies 1-on-1 training with him personally, 1 to 3 days Courses which vary from $1500 - $4500 subjective to the duration of the Course you wish to take, and obviously, $4500 would grant you full access to everything he had learned and guidance that comes along with it. Personally, you can attribute this to my naiveness as this is the first time I had purchased a Baccarat System solely from the Testimonials and Live-play reports that he displays on his website.
You may or may not find success with his system but it is certain that you will spend a lot of time developing this knowledge that might prove ineffective through your personal experimentation.
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 02:24:37 PM
Thank you for taking your time and sharing your experience with me. I can say for sure that your Blog and comments had definitely became an eye-opener to me. Although it was by chance that I stumbled upon your blog, it is really the truth and reality that you provide that I find myself questioning my own beliefs and ideology. I have since consciously taken the effort to adopt and practice being in the right frame of mind and I find that my greatest weakness is not knowing when to give up. I could have multiplied my buy in by tenfold in probably a days work but lose it all within the next 30minutes once it has taken even the slightest dip and this compulsive behavior to win it all back, although I am consciously aware of it, never fails to see me placing my last dollar for a chance of redemption and it always end with the same miserable fate. Your Blog effectively tackles all these struggles and I have since tried to absorb as much as I can, all the information and experiences to make a better Baccarat Player and would like to see the day when i can finally play this game casually and not a fight for survival every single day that i partake this journey.
You make very real--bold and factual statements about baccarat. Unfortunately, many attempt to capitalize on those with scams, systems and products/services that will not completely heal what you are deficient in. And, for the benefit of the doubt to those commercial ventures I do not approve of---lets say a rare on or two might heal one aspect (the engine) they totally leave out the drive train and the body, to complete a successful picture.
I have addressed many that I have experienced or became aware of over 30 plus years of serious play.
There is a lot more to a successful baccarat player than bet-selection/wager placement alone.
Quote from: Poss on June 19, 2017, 02:37:31 PM
I'm not too sure what you are trying to ask here but I would be more than happy to verify your concerns.
To me, this "simple" system is broken down into 2 separate parts, the first being how to chart a shoe and the second is knowing how your bet selections are influenced by the results you had charted.
It took me 3-5 Days of intensive learning to properly chart the shoe but it has taken me over a week now to learn how Bet Selections are done. The Original System Bet Selection had been designed in a way that each and every line always demands for a Bet to be made. However, by playing this system religiously, you will soon realize that if you are not careful or if your luck is just bad or have a limited bank roll to fund your experiments, you could easily lose your whole buy-in of 10Units in just losing 5 Consecutive Hands which is to my experience, a very common occurrence.
As like alrelax mentioned, even with all these knowledge combined that lets you play this System the way it is meant to be played, there is perhaps no Holy Grail that provides win consistently enough for you in the LONG RUN to have the confidence to make a living off, else everybody would be doing it which is not the case.
I don't want to speculate but to me, Dr. Tom is good guy by nature and has provided me the reassurance that this system can pull through which is what I have been falling for all this time given my circumstances. His Home Course which cost $750 allow you access to his personal email/text/calls and he will supply you what you have seen in this Thread in the form of Microsoft Word Documents together with Video Links (password enabled) that aids and reinforces the lesson that you find in said Word Documents. Of course, the added advantage is being able to learn this System from the System developer himself (for 3months) and should you not have paid that amount, would not be given any "help" whatsoever.
He also supplies 1-on-1 training with him personally, 1 to 3 days Courses which vary from $1500 - $4500 subjective to the duration of the Course you wish to take, and obviously, $4500 would grant you full access to everything he had learned and guidance that comes along with it. Personally, you can attribute this to my naiveness as this is the first time I had purchased a Baccarat System solely from the Testimonials and Live-play reports that he displays on his website.
You may or may not find success with his system but it is certain that you will spend a lot of time developing this knowledge that might prove ineffective through your personal experimentation.
I'm not asking anything. What you describe is his send (and final perhaps) iteration. Yes, he is genuinely a good guy - and a believer in his method.
Quote from: 21 Aces on June 19, 2017, 07:00:25 AM
From Alrelax:
I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it when I am successful is because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions come got it from always and not coming out at from one way the way that most systems teach and preach.the times that I come out the games I am playing one way I usually prop it a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it. for example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table 1 a couple hundred thousand we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways if we used one layer set method it never would have happened and we know that for a fact.but I am very curious about dr. Tom and send him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask them questions and he's never answered him and the reason why you never answered him I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them.I had the shoe clearly posted from the board itself at the casino and the scorecard why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good. I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way I either lose money or make very little. the times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way bidding decision let's call that the direction door but I used all directions which I've also written about which would be 8 directions. and when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers?please answer.
^This is not a testimonial about Dr. Tom's Baccarat System, but some notes by alrelax on how he plays which is how most successful players play.
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Yes--that is Correct!!!!
Maybe a lot of people that acquire a system don't full understand its strengths and weaknesses OR times where you should go discretionary.
OR times where you should go discretionary.
OR times where you should go discretionary.
OR times where you should go discretionary.
Maybe a system is good for stuff/ chop shoe parts, but when a shoe goes clear and with a strong progression then capitalize on it...?
Here is what I wrote last night (early AM hours and could not edit it the right way on my phone) I corrected the typos here-I think it is important for the record, thanks, Alrelax.
Here it is cleaned up and proper to read what I tried to convey this morning:
I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it comes, is that I am successful because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions. I play the shoe all ways and not coming at it from just one way, the way that most systems teach and preach. The times that I come at the shoes when I am playing one way, I usually profit a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain.
I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it. For example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table won a couple hundred thousand easily, we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways. If we used one way, set methods/betting protocols-- it never would have happened and we know that for a fact. But I am very curious about dr. Tom and sent him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask him some questions and he's never answered. Maybe the reason why he never answered me, is I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about?? I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times, however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them. He has to be, he is selling something and wants you money--he is not non-profit or a charity. Nothing wrong, just a fact.
I had the shoe clearly posted from the casino score board itself and the scorecard, why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good. I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way, I either lose money or make very little. The times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet, it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way betting decision, let's call that a 'one way direction', but I used all directions which I've also written about which would include 8 different directions. And when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers? Please answer.
Has anyone reviewed the money management he presents by 'De Allen Baer'? This spelling is most likely wrong and I haven't found other references on-line.
AND THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE STALKING ME OVER DR. TOM'S BACCARAT SYSTEM. I DO NOT EFFING HAVE IT AND DON'T PLAN TO ACQUIRE IT. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM OTHER THAN CHECKING WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING ABOUT HIS SYSTEM. I THOUGHT THIS MONEY MANAGEMENT VIDEO HE POSTED WAS INTERESTING AND AM ASKING ABOUT IT. WTH?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwKlkpCJBr8
Try D'Alembert betting in google.
Quote from: james on August 02, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
Try D'Alembert betting in google.
Thanks! If Dr. Tom mentioned it was a French name or more details, it would have been helpful. My spelling was so off.
poss, the originator of this discussion, whatever happened to his results using Tom's system?Or, anyone in this forum using the system with success or no success? :scared:
nope. another useless system
I bought this system for $750, and it is quite complex. It worked for awhile, then like all systems started to fail. I also saw some of Dr. Toms actual shoes and when he gets to a point of failure he does not follow his own rules for bet placement, and those shoes show a win. I wondered if he posted errors, asked him, and got no reply. So, does he show only shoes that win, or does he 'past post'? I don't know, but him not replying made me wonder.
As to the question of "is it worth it to purchase?" My answer is no, do not purchase. Only as good as all the other systems out there. Eventually fails, and way to complex to use. With it being so complex, often you will not have time in between hands to figure what you want to bet and to get it down on the table. I know of two others who bought the system, and found the same problem, and after it started to fail for them they shelved it also. Dr. Tom is a good guy but the system is too complex and does fail.
I have moved on to my own system which is fluid and I am at a daily average of $87.56 since January 1 2017. Am at $18,390 for the year.
No mechanical system can prevail the way they promise. Once you understand the true directions the shoe is capable of, your wins will come.
Well another one hit the dust
Yes, creating your own strategy or system of play is the way to go. This community (forum) offers a lot of ideas as to how one can create his or her own system of play. Keep in mind that there are some tough days when you are at the table. I would include in my strategy as how to handle it when a tough day arises- stop loss, change table, or quit? Your choice.
Cheers!!
Quote from: Racoon123 on August 05, 2017, 03:02:06 AM
As to the question of "is it worth it to purchase?" My answer is no, do not purchase. Only as good as all the other systems out there. Eventually fails, and way to complex to use. With it being so complex, often you will not have time in between hands to figure what you want to bet and to get it down on the table. I know of two others who bought the system, and found the same problem, and after it started to fail for them they shelved it also. Dr. Tom is a good guy but the system is too complex and does fail.
I have moved on to my own system which is fluid and I am at a daily average of $87.56 since January 1 2017. Am at $18,390 for the year.
right. better create your own system rather than following Dr. Tom, hehehe
Congratulations on your winning strategies, Backudo!!
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right. better create your own system rather than following Dr. Tom, hehehe
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Thank you. Same to you Barron
Quote from: toknoy on August 04, 2017, 07:57:08 PM
poss, the originator of this discussion, whatever happened to his results using Tom's system?Or, anyone in this forum using the system with success or no success? :scared:
No it did not work for me I tend to flat bet and after reading stephen tabone's book I'm afraid to double down. Can't wait to read his 3.0 book. does anyone know when it comes out on amazon?
Quote from: greeneclipse on August 09, 2017, 06:33:44 AM
No it did not work for me I tend to flat bet and after reading stephen tabone's book I'm afraid to double down. Can't wait to read his 3.0 book. does anyone know when it comes out on amazon?
Jack off Stephen, taking over Vic's board, plain and simple.
This is Stephen, I will go ahead and say it. A dirty spade is a dirty spade, plain and simple. The writing style, the attack, the 'know where all the posts are', it is Stephen waiting for the day his garbage (IMO) book came out, and maybe i just do have a damn copy! If you keep pushing the way you have, I will do exactly what I did the last time around bro---I called your bluff with Vic. I will do it again and buddy boy--you have a lot more lose than I do. I will again, obtain your book, take pictures and write reviews on all major gambling sites, I promise that, I swear that over a couple of little kids life's close to me--it is okay when the result of what I am swearing is true.
I will also state, there is no way that the sudden 'rash' of all the brand new (BY PROXY IP) members are not Stephen, no possible psychical way. This board is screwed, Vic---do something. Delete all the new accounts the past couple of days, they are all Stephen's accounts, plain and simple.
First and very last warning Stephen, take it as gospel. I will inundate gambling sites with no less than 12 or more reviews each with your book and you can rest assured, no one will be buying a copy. So keep it up with your retarded gay airline pilot thing and the other few proxies you have going on. I will do what I said and you will not like it, and they will all be real reviews from a real person of your book! I swear to GOD!
I will clear some minds and see if we all can agree, i read about many losing system that has been about flat betting even money position, but i learn something from most of them ...
For example once i got some one coding Marigny De Grilleau work, so when i say is winning or losing i can prove my point with statistical significant results.
Also during this point i among other notice that you can play one side by it self and get the same result as using both random streams.
As you see two simple things come out of a methodology during thinking and development process.
But that was the easy part, then come advance improvments to the learning curve.
For example if your expectation is to win +1 units following a march and lose your first bet, then your expectation and variance change during the games process, as you are now -1 and need to win twice to get to +1 unit flat betting ,,, then other solutions comes to mind as winning two in a row using smooth 30 step progression.
My point is that no matter what or who, so does it means something to learn new things from the core of your thinking and development process when tackle even money bets.
One thing i never been thinking about before i read Stephen book was that you can let the last unit ride and strike if you have a run of something - that make a difference - my opinion.
That is a tiny additional improvment or option to add if you have the right method.
I can list many other things that open my mind into things i know and things i did not know before and after reading Stephen book - but i won't as i made my point.
It does not matter if system fail or win we can learn things from that, details that might work with other solutions and i am not only talking about Stephen i talk about everything.
I deal with at least 3 to 10K random bits each day playing the game online or making furhter development.
So the hole process to get more skills and never stop learning is 5 starts in my book for does who agree.
Quote from: alrelax on August 11, 2017, 01:13:22 PM
Jack off Stephen, taking over Vic's board, plain and simple.
This is Stephen, I will go ahead and say it. A dirty spade is a dirty spade, plain and simple. The writing style, the attack, the 'know where all the posts are', it is Stephen waiting for the day his garbage (IMO) book came out, and maybe i just do have a damn copy! If you keep pushing the way you have, I will do exactly what I did the last time around bro---I called your bluff with Vic. I will do it again and buddy boy--you have a lot more lose than I do. I will again, obtain your book, take pictures and write reviews on all major gambling sites, I promise that, I swear that over a couple of little kids life's close to me--it is okay when the result of what I am swearing is true.
I will also state, there is no way that the sudden 'rash' of all the brand new (BY PROXY IP) members are not Stephen, no possible psychical way. This board is screwed, Vic---do something. Delete all the new accounts the past couple of days, they are all Stephen's accounts, plain and simple.
First and very last warning Stephen, take it as gospel. I will inundate gambling sites with no less than 12 or more reviews each with your book and you can rest assured, no one will be buying a copy. So keep it up with your retarded gay airline pilot thing and the other few proxies you have going on. I will do what I said and you will not like it, and they will all be real reviews from a real person of your book! I swear to GOD!
I am not a "gay" retired airline pilot. It seems as though because I support Mr. Tabone and his new book, the golden secret baccarat winning strategy 3.0 that your attacking me now like you attacked him.
And a man like you who swears on his kids' lives is a low life in my book. A low life drunk from the Bronx who hangs around in casinos hoping for a free drinks, throwing things about, getting banned, threatening people like some 1930s mob movie.
Come on buddy, give it a rest will ya! Get over it man.
You're only promoting Mr. Tabone's book. If I were he I would love it if you wrote to all the gambling sites and wasted your time promoting his books. There is no such thing as adverse publicity. It will only increase his book sales!
But they between you and him. I have not seen him on this site for weeks. The drunk from the Bronx got him banned. Well done bud you achieved something in your low life for once. Lol you copy bud?
Over and out.
Dave
Quote from: Sputnik on August 11, 2017, 02:21:07 PM
I will clear some minds and see if we all can agree, i read about many losing system that has been about flat betting even money position, but i learn something from most of them ...
For example once i got some one coding Marigny De Grilleau work, so when i say is winning or losing i can prove my point with statistical significant results.
Also during this point i among other notice that you can play one side by it self and get the same result as using both random streams.
As you see two simple things come out of a methodology during thinking and development process.
But that was the easy part, then come advance improvments to the learning curve.
For example if your expectation is to win +1 units following a march and lose your first bet, then your expectation and variance change during the games process, as you are now -1 and need to win twice to get to +1 unit flat betting ,,, then other solutions comes to mind as winning two in a row using smooth 30 step progression.
My point is that no matter what or who, so does it means something to learn new things from the core of your thinking and development process when tackle even money bets.
One thing i never been thinking about before i read Stephen book was that you can let the last unit ride and strike if you have a run of something - that make a difference - my opinion.
That is a tiny additional improvment or option to add if you have the right method.
I can list many other things that open my mind into things i know and things i did not know before and after reading Stephen book - but i won't as i made my point.
It does not matter if system fail or win we can learn things from that, details that might work with other solutions and i am not only talking about Stephen i talk about everything.
I deal with at least 3 to 10K random bits each day playing the game online or making furhter development.
So the hole process to get more skills and never stop learning is 5 starts in my book for does who agree.
I agree with you, and I don't take everything so seriously. For me I read Mr. Tabone's books, the silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy 2.1 and the golden secret baccarat winning strategy 3.0 and they have helped me a lot to win.
While they may not be for everyone, like drunks from the Bronx, they are very good systems, systems that are among the most powerful in the world I think.
At the end of the day it's all about money management.
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 04:33:01 AM
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. A low life drunk from the Bronx who hangs around in casinos hoping for a free drinks, throwing things about,
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Over and out.
Dave
Don't you think that the name calling and the humiliation and degradation is enough of fellow members?? Or the rules do not apply to you? I would ask that Esoito and Vic look at the numerous demeaning, humiliation, lies and name calling this member is putting forth. Thanks!
Quote from: Racoon123 on August 05, 2017, 03:02:06 AM
As to the question of "is it worth it to purchase?" My answer is no, do not purchase. Only as good as all the other systems out there. Eventually fails, and way to complex to use. With it being so complex, often you will not have time in between hands to figure what you want to bet and to get it down on the table. I know of two others who bought the system, and found the same problem, and after it started to fail for them they shelved it also. Dr. Tom is a good guy but the system is too complex and does fail.
I have moved on to my own system which is fluid and I am at a daily average of $87.56 since January 1 2017. Am at $18,390 for the year.
I'm using Mr. Tabone's
The ultimate silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy 2.1
and
The ultimate golden secret baccarat winning strategy 3.0
And I have not lost yet, very straight forward system, 3.0 is the crème dela crème, the holy grail of baccarat systems in my opinion and I have read almost every book there is on baccarat systems as well as tones of forum posts and paid all the workshops in Vegas.
I bought a kindle of 3.0 on my ipad but it's no longer available, but the paperback version is through Amazon.
I was so impressed with 3.0 I send Mr. Tabone a $50 paypal donation. Well I'm already winning over $3,000 using it so fairs fare, I thought $50 was a good tip considering I had spent years spending money on other systems that had let me down.
But Tabone's system is the business.
He emailed me thanking me and offered me a tie system for free.
Over and out.
Quote from: alrelax on August 12, 2017, 06:07:57 AM
Don't you think that the name calling and the humiliation and degradation is enough of fellow members?? Or the rules do not apply to you? I would ask that Esoito and Vic look at the numerous demeaning, humiliation, lies and name calling this member is putting forth. Thanks!
Well you did call Mr. Tabone names, it's all fair and all in good spirits, no harm meant.
Over and out,
Dave
Moderator's Warning To Chamzy and Alrelax
Kindly take a cold shower both of you, and desist from winding each other up. As from NOW.
It's boring and dysfunctional. Enough is enough.
And if it continues I'll do more than issue a gentle warning as a circuit-breaker.
I don't care if I am banned for life on this site ON ALL fronts, but this Stephen Tabone cat and all his fake alias accounts will take this site faster to the bottom than the ice berg that the Titanic smacked. He is an insult to baccarat players and all his c r a p accounts and c r a p posts and c r a p commentary should be deleted. Right now there are diligent casino staff all around the world away from there family and friends at insane hours to offer baccarat. And there are baccarat players around the world playing their heart out to win and play professionally AND NOBODY IS USING YOUR C R A P.
It is so transparent what this s h i t for brains is doing. You're lucky you're in England, Stephen. VERY LUCKY. This must stop.
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 07:29:34 AM
Well you did call Mr. Tabone names, it's all fair and all in good spirits, no harm meant.
Over and out,
Dave
Chamzy,
You do realize the "over and out" is totally incorrect in the context that you're attempting to use it.
Thanks.
AD (a real retired B-747 Captain)
Quote from: Sputnik on August 11, 2017, 02:21:07 PM
I will clear some minds and see if we all can agree, i read about many losing system that has been about flat betting even money position, but i learn something from most of them ...
For example once i got some one coding Marigny De Grilleau work, so when i say is winning or losing i can prove my point with statistical significant results.
Also during this point i among other notice that you can play one side by it self and get the same result as using both random streams.
As you see two simple things come out of a methodology during thinking and development process.
But that was the easy part, then come advance improvments to the learning curve.
For example if your expectation is to win +1 units following a march and lose your first bet, then your expectation and variance change during the games process, as you are now -1 and need to win twice to get to +1 unit flat betting ,,, then other solutions comes to mind as winning two in a row using smooth 30 step progression.
My point is that no matter what or who, so does it means something to learn new things from the core of your thinking and development process when tackle even money bets.
One thing i never been thinking about before i read Stephen book was that you can let the last unit ride and strike if you have a run of something - that make a difference - my opinion.
That is a tiny additional improvment or option to add if you have the right method.
I can list many other things that open my mind into things i know and things i did not know before and after reading Stephen book - but i won't as i made my point.
It does not matter if system fail or win we can learn things from that, details that might work with other solutions and i am not only talking about Stephen i talk about everything.
I deal with at least 3 to 10K random bits each day playing the game online or making furhter development.
So the hole process to get more skills and never stop learning is 5 starts in my book for does who agree.
Can you recommend any other system that in your opinion might be better than Stephen Tabone's books on how to win baccarat?
If you can I'd like to know.
Quote from: greeneclipse on August 13, 2017, 07:57:30 PM
Can you recommend any other system that in your opinion might be better than Stephen Tabone's books on how to win baccarat?
If you can I'd like to know.
Which ones have you tried so far?
AD
Quote from: ADulay on August 12, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Chamzy,
You do realize the "over and out" is totally incorrect in the context that you're attempting to use it.
Thanks.
AD (a real retired B-747 Captain)
Wilco, but I think Chamzy, the real retired pilot had been using, over and out, in the correct context.
'Over' means that you have finished sending your message and are waiting for the other person to reply to you. You expect a response - the conversation is not concluded. 'Out' however, means that you have finished sending your message and do not require/are not waiting for a response - you no longer wish to talk to that person. Using these together basically means "Message finished
Therefore Chamzy did not want to hear back from whoever he left a message for. It's easy to assume this.
Over.
Quote from: 21 Aces on August 12, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
I don't care if I am banned for life on this site ON ALL fronts, but this Stephen Tabone cat and all his fake alias accounts will take this site faster to the bottom than the ice berg that the Titanic smacked. He is an insult to baccarat players and all his c r a p accounts and c r a p posts and c r a p commentary should be deleted. Right now there are diligent casino staff all around the world away from there family and friends at insane hours to offer baccarat. And there are baccarat players around the world playing their heart out to win and play professionally AND NOBODY IS USING YOUR C R A P.
It is so transparent what this s h i t for brains is doing. You're lucky you're in England, Stephen. VERY LUCKY. This must stop.
So you've finally played your Ace card. Complete breakdown and using swear words. You must have loved Alrelax a lot. But he is on the long break now so you have to get used of this situation and try not to lose control over your emotions.
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 07:29:34 AM
Well you did call Mr. Tabone names, it's all fair and all in good spirits, no harm meant.
Over and out,
Dave
Chamzy don't get involved. Don't support Stephen because they will ban you. They hate Stephen and his books.
I read a lot of posts on this forum and there was a big effort to get rid of him and they did. So if you support him, even if you are right that they are breaking forum rules they will just get rid of you like they did him.
Don't worth getting involved. I mean you're 82, and a retied airline pilot you know if there is no runway you just have to fly one.
Anyway I also read
The Ultimate Golden Secret Baccarat Winning Strategy 3.0
And like you I am winning money using it. I think they don't want people to know this is why they are banning Stephen's fans so as I wrote best keep out of it.
I read you won 3k wow. I won 400. did you double down 1 or flat bet all the way, and what game play did you use?
PM me if you when captain.
Over.
Quote from: Chamzy on August 12, 2017, 04:33:01 AM
I am not a "gay" retired airline pilot. It seems as though because I support Mr. Tabone and his new book, the golden secret baccarat winning strategy 3.0 that your attacking me now like you attacked him.
And a man like you who swears on his kids' lives is a low life in my book. A low life drunk from the Bronx who hangs around in casinos hoping for a free drinks, throwing things about, getting banned, threatening people like some 1930s mob movie.
Come on buddy, give it a rest will ya! Get over it man.
You're only promoting Mr. Tabone's book. If I were he I would love it if you wrote to all the gambling sites and wasted your time promoting his books. There is no such thing as adverse publicity. It will only increase his book sales!
But they between you and him. I have not seen him on this site for weeks. The drunk from the Bronx got him banned. Well done bud you achieved something in your low life for once. Lol you copy bud?
Over and out.
Dave
Gambling sites? Is that like all the casinos in the world, or just online sites? Online sites don't do reviews of gambling books. Casinos have magazines in their casinos but they don't publish these. I saw a review of Stephen's book
The Ultimate Silver Bullet Proof Baccarat Winning Strategy 2.1
In one of those magazines.
I'm glad I did my due diligence before purchasing and found this thread. I'd rather toss him a $700 donation after positive results than pay up front. I am scam skeptical, however I due admire his presentations for his offer for being somewhat old fashion using posters and chalk board,. I kind of chuckled when he didn't even spell "gmail" correctly on his poster in his first video. But I took it as a oversight that we are all human and tend to make simple mistakes.
Does anyone have the video tutorials?
Quote from: cogger on July 23, 2019, 05:48:07 PM
I'm glad I did my due diligence before purchasing and found this thread.
Found this posted elsewhere:
For those who need an opinion on Dr. Tom's miracle method, here's a testimonial (a real one) from one of his students...
Full message here caught on YouTube before being deleted... :D:D:D
I. DR. TOM BOCH?S FRAUD & BREAKING THE LAW (in a fairly unique and partially well thought out way) I'M SORRY BUT DR. TOM IS COMMITTING SERIOUS FRAUD. THIS VIDEO IS FRAUDULENT AND the Courses are Fraudulent and without any scientifically proven merit whatsoever. A lawsuit is being put together shortly after the posting of this video b/c many people are getting hurt. As an extremely dissatisfied student of Doctor Tom who forced him to give me a partial refund b/c it was clear from my perspective that he had already spent most of the $4500 I gave him in a period of less than 12 hours from day one of training to day 2. THIS IS SERIOUS. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM DR. TOM. Read below and see why I told Dr. Tom to stop selling this fraudulent piece of information to the public. I HAVE A TON OF EVIDENCE to back my assertions based on the more than a dozen assertions where Tom either lied, or changed his system(s) on the fly right in front of me, ADMITTED to me (accidentally) that his original $750 Home Study Course was essentially garbage BUT that his Hybrid system was great, trying to flip me into another used car lol. Like I said, a lawsuit is forthcoming for the following reasons: 1. I would like to get the rest of my money back, plus wasted expenses that he forced me to expend. 2. I would like to help other students / people get the rest of their money back from Tom. 3. I would like to protect future potential clients of Dr. Tom from being taking for a very expensive ride.
II. KINKS IN Dr. TOMS PERSONA He?s got a great ?Aw Shucks, I?m just a sweet old man that wants to help people? and ?I?m a real straight forward genuine guy on YouTube & on the phone, & in person?. - Don?t be upset, he fooled me here too. Really well I might add. Very well-rehearsed salesman. Once I saw everything and got the full picture over the 2 days, I began to question Tom on many of these discrepancies and his responses were quite poor, somewhat manipulative, and were meant to throw off more ignorant AND desperate people who don't know better or don't have basic street smarts. Towards the end of the second day, the whole thing devolved into me reprimanding / admonishing Dr. Tom for what he was doing to people. At one point I thought he was near bursting into tears b/c I think I was the first person in a very long time to show him the reality of what he was doing AND HOW he was seriously hurting people.
III. TOM EMBARRASSES HIMSELF AT THE CASINO Listen to this next part which is hilarious at the Maryland Live Casino: His performance at the Maryland live Casino was equally bad. In fact, IT WAS ATROCIOUS. Not because of losing money b/c he only does ?Virtual? lol, BUT because he had NO IDEA THAT the dealers and shuffle master machines were creating continuous decks, instead of individual / independent shoes of 6-8 decks that are not being recycled, WHICH renders his system completely useless BECAUSE it is 100% based on the history of previous outcomes in the shoe. THEN HE said, he almost never goes to the Live but that?s not true AND LATER he accidentally admitted he was at the same casino only recently with an all-star student. I HAD TO POINT IT OUT TO HIM. He had no idea and accidentally admitted that he was at the same exact table with another one of his "ALL STAR SUPER SUCCESSFUL" students, and they both did poor and he couldn't figure out why that was UNTIL I pointed it out to him that HIS SYSTEM WAS TOTALLY USELESS at the style of baccarat being played at the table he took me to. LOLOL. I mean you're the professional?guy! You?re the instructor. How idiotic is that? Someone tell me please? LMAO.
IV. BACK AT MY HOTEL ROOM THAT I WASTED 3 NIGHTS ON PLUS 10 HRS IN DRIVING + Several hundreds of dollars? He keeps telling me about these other students and all this (garbage) documentation of other successful students BUT THEN he accidentally tells me that many of those students are ALSO ?Virtual? betting, AND they are NOT even using HIS system in the manner in which he designed it to work. LMAO They do variations, LOL. Which is to say either A. They don?t believe in it OR B. As long as Dr. Tom gets paid he?ll say anything under the sun to make you feel like you can win with his system on a consistent basis. He began to curl up and respond somewhat like a child that was caught lying / stealing. It was truly sad to see a 72-year-old man caught red handed like a child. Part of his defense / shtick is that he's an old man. Like he's looking for sympathy and basically his mindset is "I tried" "I gave you useful tips.... sooo just let me keep the money okay?" That?s how he does things. ALL OF THE "USEFUL" Tips are either: A. Common knowledge. B. Common Sense. C. Easily obtained with just a few searches on google about gambling / betting / money management. Moreover, he doesn't even really know the history of baccarat very well. AND he has said that his system will work on craps and roulette, only later to WALK BACK that statement. The things that he said and did were so so pathetic. So much so that I began to feel great emotion and empathy for him, and I wanted to help him. I kept asking him how much money he had as opposed to how much money he needed? I really wanted to A. have him create a REAL system OR b. help him turn his system into something legitimate b/c as it stands, neither of his systems are proven in anyway, b/c it could help many people. I offered to assist him many times. He even told me what he needed for assistance I guess to throw me off. since that time, I have contacted Dr. Tom and he has not called me back and not taken any of my calls or responded to any of my texts. I'm sorry to say, like a little snake oil salesman hiding in the dark RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH OF a. What he has already done hurting many many people, b. What he CURRENTLY DOES WHICH IS HURT MANY PEOPLE, AND c. WILL CONTINUE TO DO, WHICH IS HURT MANY PEOPLE Like a degenerate gambler, he WILL NOT STOP. He WILL HURT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY....AND I fully expect him to try and lie his way out it by saying he's an old broken man with some illness, OR he has dementia, or some other lie to justify in his mind, WHY AND HOW he has the right to hurt me AND the rest of you. The testimonials are from people who fall under a few possible scenarios: A. Extremely lucky to have entered into a few shoes at the absolute right time, WHICH the N.O.R. betting system (or any other) would serve them through the process of surviving or making a few bucks on a shoe. The N.O.R. system is stuff also. It is just a basic form of logic in betting which if there is 3 or more bankers or players in a row, THEN bet it. If it chops / switches back and forth from player and banker, THEN bet that anticipated switch. OR he is paying them, OR bartering for them, OR they are completely falsified altogether. I EVEN OFFERED TO ASSIST him in improving the program into something real b/c it was not science based. It was not mathematically tested against ANYTHING other than few shoes and some good fortune AND ALSO eliminating anything related to bad shoes. There were no continuous shoes over a 4, 8, or 12hr period. There was no set 3-5 days at any particular casino. None of it, and if there was anything close to it, he couldn?t prove it one way other the other but his true dark character rang true pretty early that?s for sure. BUT as I told him, he had extremely limited data that was mostly 2nd hand from other people doing all kinds of crazy variations of his system and getting lucky based on the 50/50 principle. NO LEGITIMATE TESTING WHATSOEVER. Only cherry-picking information that suited his needs. There WERE SO MANY DISCREPENCIES it?s unbelievable. AND there is no way he can cover it all up! NO WAY AT ALL. The evidence is beyond damning Dr. Tom. It?s a literal slam dunk in court. LOL. He does AND WILL say anything to cover the fact that his system is NO BETTER THAN you going on your own and betting with any sort of logical and disciplined money management betting system. IT'S A FABRICATION It has crossed the line beyond borderline fraudulent and is playing the odds against all of us based on the reality that the odds of winning a hand is essentially 50 50 of Player or Banker. So, no matter what method you decide to use in life to bet anything in baccarat, you always have a 50% chance of being right OR wrong. Tom admits to having lost all kinds of money on gambling and different betting systems for 40+ years, bla blab bla. BUT WHAT HE DOESN?T TELL YOU?. Is that he is winning all his money back?.BY STEALING FROM ALL OF US. That?s his solution to being a degenerate typical losing gambler. TAKING OUR MONEY?. Is HIS SOLUTION. P.S. * Also I would like to thank you Dr. Tom for being such a great guy and buying me lunch 2 times WITH MY MONEY. LOL. (and that Costco protein bar. What a guy!) Is that worth $4500 Dr. Tom? P.P.S. For those of you who want to get your money back OR at least stop Dr. Tom from hurting other people. As of right now, put your true testimonials in the comments of his videos and please contact me through YouTube, and be safe out there.
Wow eightiron. I got skeptical when I noticed he did'nt even spell "Gmail" correctly is his video LOL. I sent out 2 emails in the past 2 days and have gotten no replies.
Quote from: alrelax on January 21, 2017, 02:20:29 AM
Vo, we have been through this stuff before. There are no set mechanical or other kind of systems that will profit from shoe to shoe to shoe and from property to property to property.
There are our own triggers, which are extremely volatile in most cases, out of 10 visits they might hit 9 times and out of the next 10 visits they hit 3 times overall. Or anything in between. Or a winning streak for 3 months and then a losing streak for triple that.
But as far as a system with a set wagering pattern, IMO, one does not exist that will prevail over numerous visits. I am not even going to the proverbial 'in the long run'.
Be Smart, Be Knowledgeable, DO NOT BE GREEDY when you do win, Realize there are no systems that can outweigh your own stupid and irrational desires, etc., etc.
When posting on my board here, please keep it factual, real and reserve the personal feelings and insults the best you can. You can comment, do not make it all insults and degradation, please.
Read the above quote I wrote on this subject a couple of years ago, thanks, Alrelax.