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[alrelax]

The phone I was typing on his too hard to make Corrections on and edit everything I will respond to it from my office in the morning I will correct my typos and I will give you some more details since you seem interested and you seem sincere I'll put some time into it in the morning check back thank you

[Poss]

Thanks for reaching out Alrelax. I'm a real fan of your blog (specifically your 10 Series) and the things you share are all based on decades of experience (painful or not) and the practicality and realism of your comments have been very enlightening. Naturally, knowing that your common responses to Baccarat systems are nothing more than just another fraud that does not and will not work, I have become increasingly skeptical, cautious and conflicted having spent 2 long weeks developing Dr. Tom's Baccarat System. Stuck in my financial crisis, I was naive to pin all my hopes into Dr.Tom's System and although it maybe devastating news if his system is just another scam, then I could at least move on before my bankroll is totally destroyed by the System that I have regarded as my only hope.

[Eight Iron]

I have become increasingly skeptical, cautious and conflicted having spent 2 long weeks developing Dr. Tom's Baccarat System. Stuck in my financial crisis, I was naive to pin all my hopes into Dr.Tom's System and although it maybe devastating news if his system is just another scam, then I could at least move on before my bankroll is totally destroyed by the System that I have regarded as my only hope.

Did you read this thread before you wasted your money?  The complete 'Dr. Tom's System' is posted free in the first pages of this thread.  There is no reason for anyone to purchase it.

[alrelax]

I cannot comment personally on Dr. Tom's system.  I will not get involved with it.  I will not get involved with any of them.  IMO, a system cannot work consistently with the results I am looking for.  However, I do not play for 1 or 3 or 5 unit win, per day, per casino visit.  I have stated this before. 

If you have something that can produce a guaranteed few unit win, each and every time--then quit your job and play baccarat for a couple hundred dollars a day.  I cannot see it, I cannot believe in it and I do not seek it.  However, I play baccarat and have for decades.  All styles and the majority of it being in the high limit rooms.  I do not play on-line and only in real B&M casinos in the USA.

If you are trying to make money or you have to make money by gambling, to me that is a very bad and precarious situation to be in.  Sure, each and every time I go to the casino--I sure would love to make large amounts of money--but that is impossible for the many reasons I have so wrote about.  Baccarat, has huge influential abilities that can absolutely help you or hurt you in the casino.  I have wrote about these and they are available within my Blog on this board and a good deal of that info can be found in my series of 10 articles sticky'ed in the first page of my Blog.

As far as making money, needing money desperately and attempting to use baccarat as a savior for anything related to those, I offer the following advise.  You will become ultra conservative and you will miss all or the highest majority of the best or the better sections of each shoe that are easy and ripe for the picking--when you 'have to' or 'desperately need to recover' money for any reason by playing baccarat.  A good deal of the decision making process, IMO--is made with your psyche instead of how you think they are made, on logic and reasoning only. 

Here is an example.  The other night.  Me and my buddy were winning huge on that one shoe and most of the others were mad, upset, attempting to recover from their losses, etc.  They finally jumped on our bandwagon and made great money on that shoe.  We influenced them, both verbally and non-verbally.  Even after they had tens of thousands of dollars, none of them wanted to risk it towards the end and they were all dead-set against anything happening at the end of the shoe the way it so obviously did, 2 runs, side by side, of 8 bankers followed by 8 players.  That is what I am saying easy pickings is all about.

Here is another example.  3 or 4 and cut.  That is so old school and so popular to this day.  Wait for 3 and then play the cut or wait for 4 and then play the cut.  If you lose and it repeats then you double up and keep trying as the reasoning is, 1's and 2's are easy, 3's and 4's happen but considerably less, and 5's and 6's happen but with a huge deficit to 1's to 4 repeats, etc.  Okay, they whole table would have been wagering against those runs of 8's, I know it 100%.  In my case I was on it from the beginning. $400, then $800, then $1,600 and then pull down each and every win and stack it up.  Lose the last one when it cuts.  Okay, 3 go by and then the common wager for so many baccarat players is, wager against it.  Great, let's say you did, $200 against.  After the 3 repeats appear you put $200 out there.  Lose, then $400, then $800, then $1,600.00.  You lost $3,000.00.  Plain and simple.  Can you place one or two or even three wagers against a run from happening and win?  Sure you can!  But you can lose also.  Do I wager against a run or like I say, 'a cut' with a 3 or 4 repeat happening, sure I do.  But let's look at it with that card and that shoe I posted yesterday.  If I am not mistaking, if you used that protocol you would have prevailed and won 14 times if you wagered for the cut, say after the 2nd one appeared.  You would have had to be abled to double up you first wager for 4 times, I would only count it or do it form the 3rd to the 5th repeat, I would stop after that.  So if you are wagering only $50.00 then you have to be prepared to wager 4 times, so a total of $750.00 for the four attempts to make $50.00.  Like I said, you would have prevailed and won 14 times in that shoe.  But you would have also lost on 5 runs of not wagering for past the 5th repeat, etc.  And you would have lost far greater than what you already won on the ones that did cut after 2-3-4 or 5 if you stayed on those until at least the 5th repeat.

So, confusing? Not really.  Get in and out?  If you do, you might never have the landslide or the great shoe that some of us do from time to time.  If you stay in you can lose all your winning with a set wagering protocol.  Because that protocol will probably work sometimes and at other times it will fail terribly.

Is their magic?  No.  Is there anything you can do that will help you.  Yes.  And I wrote about those also in my Blog or elsewhere on this board.  And the biggest one you can do, IMO---is to come at the game from all sides and 'see the game' for what is instantly happening.  Using a protocol of pre-conceived nature will never allow you to do that.  You are looking 'north' only and you are ignoring the other directions, which are-northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west and northwest.  You will miss all the easy pickings that do offering themselves in all those times that you were looking north only. 

The other factors are a plenty including psych.  Please refer back to my Blog and you will understand what I am trying to bring out.

I hope this helped you.  Baccarat is a complicated game to understand and prevail at.  You can make a lot of money with it, easily or with great pains and you can also lose a lot of money with it--also easily or with great pains.  But I do know one thing for 100% certain, the game of baccarat cannot be beat with any written protocol unless you have a large bank roll and you are only going for a few unit win per day and that win may very well be postponed due to your inability to wager because of table limits.  Can you still lose with a system like that, sure.  The system I am referring to is one of picking one side and continually wagering until it cuts.  But you need a large bank roll and hopefully you do not ever get 8 to 15 repeating streaks.  The flip side is, those runs are where the real quick and large money is usually made, at least by the old school baccarat players anyway. 

Thanks, hope I gave you some help.   

[Poss]

To be fair, I have experienced and noticed a degree of consistency in Win/Stop limit that Alrelax disagree with, but this system aims to yield 4-6 units every shoe with a 10unit buy in. Personally, i go for 3 units per shoe and have managed to, on virtual/paper bets, met this goal consistently over 5-10 Shoes. I know that this belief is a bad basis for long-term results but having done this system across a short term time span, short term meaning 5-10shoes played across a single day for 3 days, i just charged right into the casino hoping to replicate what I've been doing for the past 3 days.

The first 3 shoes were great, i made 9 Units over 3 shoes that lasted about 10-15minutes each, but coming to my 4th and 5th Shoe, i was absolutely crushed when i lost all the units i've won and more to 2 consecutive shoes. Initially, I had the belief that I could "make it back in the next shoe" when the first shoe was lost but i was proven wrong when I took a huge dip into my bankroll. Dr. Tom plays this system with minor step in Negative Progression and 10Units can easily be lost if you accumulated 5 consecutive losses in a shoe and that was what happened to me.

But to answer your question, no i did not find this forum when I first sourced for a Baccarat System.

[Jimske]

A friend of mine in Chicago bought Dr. Tom's system off of ebay for 750. He has shared it with me and I will share it with you, step by step. I will post each step and at the very end, shoes that correspond with the play.

It is a little difficult to grasp (at least for me) but maybe we can all help each other. Here we go. Once we are all on the same page, I will submit the next step (10 in total).

Step #1
There will be 3 "betting Columns" generated by the raw banker and player decisions. These betting columns start being determined by the last 4 B/P decisions being converted into B's and I's which stand for Balanced and Imbalanced. (Lesson # 1 at the end of this information)

The first column is result of our expectations of upcoming B and I outcomes.  These are the Plus's and Minus's (Lesson # 2)

The second column...the W's and L's are the result of our expectations from Column 1. (Lesson # 3)

The third Column (another set of Plus's and Minus's) is the result of our expected outcomes from column 2. (Lesson # 5)

How To See The Banker And Player Decisions Differently From All The Other Players at The Table: How To Convert To  The "B and I."

Use the RAW banker/player decisions to generate the "B" and "I" Patterns. 

B = Balanced (ALL the last FOUR decisions were the same BBBB, PPPP or 2 of each B&P – in any order)

I = Imbalanced (One Banker or Player and 3 of the other)

Take the last 4 decisions:

Here are the BALANCED...BBBB PPPP PBPB BPBP PPBB BBPP BPPB PBBP

In other words, all 4 are the SAME OR 2 of EACH...the number of B/P decisions are in BALANCE.


IMBALANCED is the opposite: 3 of one (B/P) and 1 of the other:  PBBB PBPP PPBP PPPB BPPP BPBB BBPB BBBP

Just cover literally with your finger, or in your mind's eye, the last 3 decisions and you will know immediately which side will result in an I and which will generate a B.

For your homework, take two old shoes of around 60 decisions each or flip a coin (heads=banker, tails=player)
And mark all decisions, after the third one because you need FOUR, either B(alanced) or I(mbalanced).

Yes, this is the last iteration that I kow of.  But it is missing columns.  He has a W/L column also that requires for adjustments in placements.  Perhaps Poss can verify this.  It is NOT a simple system to learn OR play.

Dr. Tom a good guy and he's a believer.  It is my understanding he is charging 7k for it? 

[alrelax]

To be fair, I have experienced and noticed a degree of consistency in Win/Stop limit that Alrelax disagree with, but this system aims to yield 4-6 units every shoe with a 10unit buy in. Personally, i go for 3 units per shoe and have managed to, on virtual/paper bets, met this goal consistently over 5-10 Shoes. I know that this belief is a bad basis for long-term results but having done this system across a short term time span, short term meaning 5-10shoes played across a single day for 3 days, i just charged right into the casino hoping to replicate what I've been doing for the past 3 days.

The first 3 shoes were great, i made 9 Units over 3 shoes that lasted about 10-15minutes each, but coming to my 4th and 5th Shoe, i was absolutely crushed when i lost all the units i've won and more to 2 consecutive shoes. Initially, I had the belief that I could "make it back in the next shoe" when the first shoe was lost but i was proven wrong when I took a huge dip into my bankroll. Dr. Tom plays this system with minor step in Negative Progression and 10Units can easily be lost if you accumulated 5 consecutive losses in a shoe and that was what happened to me.

But to answer your question, no i did not find this forum when I first sourced for a Baccarat System.

I can give you 10 to 20 systems that I call triggers with some kind of progressions that will win.  But the down side is, they will also lose.  There is no system, IMO--that can consistently win all the time or at least the highest majority of the times.  It cannot happen, it is impossible. 

Buy them all and try.  What do you have to lose?  You basically answer your own questions and thoughts and concerns--but when money is involved you do not want to realize the truth or reality.

And, that is the very reason authors of systems in gambling, weight loss and other magical and miracle things that a human desires is a money maker for most experts/authors/inventors, etc.

The problem we all face no matter if using a system, triggers or guessing is---if we win, how much should we stop at?  If we are losing, should we continue to play to recover and eventually win?  If we have won or lost and we are dead-even, should we continue?  There is no magic and anything can happen, that is the game of baccarat.  You cannot predict the results yet to be produced.

As system of any type, invented or commercially sold--only can prevail when the shoe produces a certain event or a series of events in some kind of order.  That is it--nothing else.  The problem is, the shoe will produce everything and random times with no schedule.  You might have exactly what you are looking for and then with or without continuance--the shoe will allow you to win or cause you to lose.  There are so many other factors that players can employ to help themselves or hurt themselves.  That is why the list of pro's and con's can be debated on either side.  Hopefully you understand what I am trying to make you conscious of.

Period, I stop here-I don't like to discredit anyone or spar about this stuff, I rather use my energy and motivation for something else.  I am not in the commercial baccarat sales business, so it's all good to me.  I tired to open a seminar and course business in Las Vegas and the Nevada Postsecondary Education Department reviewed my course outlines and details and they made an official determination of the State of Nevada that people could and would advance in their jobs and employment if they took my seminars/courses, so the state decided that I would be a school and required to have licensed teachers and all the regulatory procedures and fees that go along with that.  They had two outside casino certified expert consultants review my outlines and that is how the state determined their decision.  I must know something from my experience, contacts and research in baccarat, blackjack and casino operations.  BTW--my outlines do not teach a betting system.   

[Poss]

I cannot comment personally on Dr. Tom's system.  I will not get involved with it.  I will not get involved with any of them.  IMO, a system cannot work consistently with the results I am looking for.  However, I do not play for 1 or 3 or 5 unit win, per day, per casino visit.  I have stated this before. 

If you have something that can produce a guaranteed few unit win, each and every time--then quit your job and play baccarat for a couple hundred dollars a day.  I cannot see it, I cannot believe in it and I do not seek it.  However, I play baccarat and have for decades.  All styles and the majority of it being in the high limit rooms.  I do not play on-line and only in real B&M casinos in the USA.

If you are trying to make money or you have to make money by gambling, to me that is a very bad and precarious situation to be in.  Sure, each and every time I go to the casino--I sure would love to make large amounts of money--but that is impossible for the many reasons I have so wrote about.  Baccarat, has huge influential abilities that can absolutely help you or hurt you in the casino.  I have wrote about these and they are available within my Blog on this board and a good deal of that info can be found in my series of 10 articles sticky'ed in the first page of my Blog.

As far as making money, needing money desperately and attempting to use baccarat as a savior for anything related to those, I offer the following advise.  You will become ultra conservative and you will miss all or the highest majority of the best or the better sections of each shoe that are easy and ripe for the picking--when you 'have to' or 'desperately need to recover' money for any reason by playing baccarat.  A good deal of the decision making process, IMO--is made with your psyche instead of how you think they are made, on logic and reasoning only. 

Here is an example.  The other night.  Me and my buddy were winning huge on that one shoe and most of the others were mad, upset, attempting to recover from their losses, etc.  They finally jumped on our bandwagon and made great money on that shoe.  We influenced them, both verbally and non-verbally.  Even after they had tens of thousands of dollars, none of them wanted to risk it towards the end and they were all dead-set against anything happening at the end of the shoe the way it so obviously did, 2 runs, side by side, of 8 bankers followed by 8 players.  That is what I am saying easy pickings is all about.

Here is another example.  3 or 4 and cut.  That is so old school and so popular to this day.  Wait for 3 and then play the cut or wait for 4 and then play the cut.  If you lose and it repeats then you double up and keep trying as the reasoning is, 1's and 2's are easy, 3's and 4's happen but considerably less, and 5's and 6's happen but with a huge deficit to 1's to 4 repeats, etc.  Okay, they whole table would have been wagering against those runs of 8's, I know it 100%.  In my case I was on it from the beginning. $400, then $800, then $1,600 and then pull down each and every win and stack it up.  Lose the last one when it cuts.  Okay, 3 go by and then the common wager for so many baccarat players is, wager against it.  Great, let's say you did, $200 against.  After the 3 repeats appear you put $200 out there.  Lose, then $400, then $800, then $1,600.00.  You lost $3,000.00.  Plain and simple.  Can you place one or two or even three wagers against a run from happening and win?  Sure you can!  But you can lose also.  Do I wager against a run or like I say, 'a cut' with a 3 or 4 repeat happening, sure I do.  But let's look at it with that card and that shoe I posted yesterday.  If I am not mistaking, if you used that protocol you would have prevailed and won 14 times if you wagered for the cut, say after the 2nd one appeared.  You would have had to be abled to double up you first wager for 4 times, I would only count it or do it form the 3rd to the 5th repeat, I would stop after that.  So if you are wagering only $50.00 then you have to be prepared to wager 4 times, so a total of $750.00 for the four attempts to make $50.00.  Like I said, you would have prevailed and won 14 times in that shoe.  But you would have also lost on 5 runs of not wagering for past the 5th repeat, etc.  And you would have lost far greater than what you already won on the ones that did cut after 2-3-4 or 5 if you stayed on those until at least the 5th repeat.

So, confusing? Not really.  Get in and out?  If you do, you might never have the landslide or the great shoe that some of us do from time to time.  If you stay in you can lose all your winning with a set wagering protocol.  Because that protocol will probably work sometimes and at other times it will fail terribly.

Is their magic?  No.  Is there anything you can do that will help you.  Yes.  And I wrote about those also in my Blog or elsewhere on this board.  And the biggest one you can do, IMO---is to come at the game from all sides and 'see the game' for what is instantly happening.  Using a protocol of pre-conceived nature will never allow you to do that.  You are looking 'north' only and you are ignoring the other directions, which are-northeast, east, southeast, south, southwest, west and northwest.  You will miss all the easy pickings that do offering themselves in all those times that you were looking north only. 

The other factors are a plenty including psych.  Please refer back to my Blog and you will understand what I am trying to bring out.

I hope this helped you.  Baccarat is a complicated game to understand and prevail at.  You can make a lot of money with it, easily or with great pains and you can also lose a lot of money with it--also easily or with great pains.  But I do know one thing for 100% certain, the game of baccarat cannot be beat with any written protocol unless you have a large bank roll and you are only going for a few unit win per day and that win may very well be postponed due to your inability to wager because of table limits.  Can you still lose with a system like that, sure.  The system I am referring to is one of picking one side and continually wagering until it cuts.  But you need a large bank roll and hopefully you do not ever get 8 to 15 repeating streaks.  The flip side is, those runs are where the real quick and large money is usually made, at least by the old school baccarat players anyway. 

Thanks, hope I gave you some help.   

Thank you for taking your time and sharing your experience with me. I can say for sure that your Blog and comments had definitely became an eye-opener to me. Although it was by chance that I stumbled upon your blog, it is really the truth and reality that you provide that I find myself questioning my own beliefs and ideology. I have since consciously taken the effort to adopt and practice being in the right frame of mind and I find that my greatest weakness is not knowing when to give up. I could have multiplied my buy in by tenfold in probably a days work but lose it all within the next 30minutes once it has taken even the slightest dip and this compulsive behavior to win it all back, although I am consciously aware of it, never fails to see me placing my last dollar for a chance of redemption and it always end with the same miserable fate. Your Blog effectively tackles all these struggles and I have since tried to absorb as much as I can, all the information and experiences to make a better Baccarat Player and would like to see the day when i can finally play this game casually and not a fight for survival every single day that i partake this journey.

[Poss]

Yes, this is the last iteration that I kow of.  But it is missing columns.  He has a W/L column also that requires for adjustments in placements.  Perhaps Poss can verify this.  It is NOT a simple system to learn OR play.

Dr. Tom a good guy and he's a believer.  It is my understanding he is charging 7k for it?

I'm not too sure what you are trying to ask here but I would be more than happy to verify your concerns.
To me, this "simple" system is broken down into 2 separate parts, the first being how to chart a shoe and the second is knowing how your bet selections are influenced by the results you had charted.
It took me 3-5 Days of intensive learning to properly chart the shoe but it has taken me over a week now to learn how Bet Selections are done. The Original System Bet Selection had been designed in a way that each and every line always demands for a Bet to be made. However, by playing this system religiously, you will soon realize that if you are not careful or if your luck is just bad or have a limited bank roll to fund your experiments, you could easily lose your whole buy-in of 10Units in just losing 5 Consecutive Hands which is to my experience, a very common occurrence.

As like alrelax mentioned, even with all these knowledge combined that lets you play this System the way it is meant to be played, there is perhaps no Holy Grail that provides win consistently enough for you in the LONG RUN to have the confidence to make a living off, else everybody would be doing it which is not the case.

I don't want to speculate but to me, Dr. Tom is good guy by nature and has provided me the reassurance that this system can pull through which is what I have been falling for all this time given my circumstances. His Home Course which cost $750 allow you access to his personal email/text/calls and he will supply you what you have seen in this Thread in the form of Microsoft Word Documents together with Video Links (password enabled) that aids and reinforces the lesson that you find in said Word Documents. Of course, the added advantage is being able to learn this System from the System developer himself (for 3months) and should you not have paid that amount, would not be given any "help" whatsoever.

He also supplies 1-on-1 training with him personally, 1 to 3 days Courses which vary from $1500 - $4500 subjective to the duration of the Course you wish to take, and obviously, $4500 would grant you full access to everything he had learned and guidance that comes along with it. Personally, you can attribute this to my naiveness as this is the first time I had purchased a Baccarat System solely from the Testimonials and Live-play reports that he displays on his website.

You may or may not find success with his system but it is certain that you will spend a lot of time developing this knowledge that might prove ineffective through your personal experimentation.

[alrelax]

Thank you for taking your time and sharing your experience with me. I can say for sure that your Blog and comments had definitely became an eye-opener to me. Although it was by chance that I stumbled upon your blog, it is really the truth and reality that you provide that I find myself questioning my own beliefs and ideology. I have since consciously taken the effort to adopt and practice being in the right frame of mind and I find that my greatest weakness is not knowing when to give up. I could have multiplied my buy in by tenfold in probably a days work but lose it all within the next 30minutes once it has taken even the slightest dip and this compulsive behavior to win it all back, although I am consciously aware of it, never fails to see me placing my last dollar for a chance of redemption and it always end with the same miserable fate. Your Blog effectively tackles all these struggles and I have since tried to absorb as much as I can, all the information and experiences to make a better Baccarat Player and would like to see the day when i can finally play this game casually and not a fight for survival every single day that i partake this journey.

You make very real--bold and factual statements about baccarat.  Unfortunately, many attempt to capitalize on those with scams, systems and products/services that will not completely heal what you are deficient in.  And, for the benefit of the doubt to those commercial ventures I do not approve of---lets say a rare on or two might heal one aspect (the engine) they totally leave out the drive train and the body, to complete a successful picture.

I have addressed many that I have experienced or became aware of over 30 plus years of serious play. 

There is a lot more to a successful baccarat player than bet-selection/wager placement alone. 

[Jimske]

I'm not too sure what you are trying to ask here but I would be more than happy to verify your concerns.
To me, this "simple" system is broken down into 2 separate parts, the first being how to chart a shoe and the second is knowing how your bet selections are influenced by the results you had charted.
It took me 3-5 Days of intensive learning to properly chart the shoe but it has taken me over a week now to learn how Bet Selections are done. The Original System Bet Selection had been designed in a way that each and every line always demands for a Bet to be made. However, by playing this system religiously, you will soon realize that if you are not careful or if your luck is just bad or have a limited bank roll to fund your experiments, you could easily lose your whole buy-in of 10Units in just losing 5 Consecutive Hands which is to my experience, a very common occurrence.

As like alrelax mentioned, even with all these knowledge combined that lets you play this System the way it is meant to be played, there is perhaps no Holy Grail that provides win consistently enough for you in the LONG RUN to have the confidence to make a living off, else everybody would be doing it which is not the case.

I don't want to speculate but to me, Dr. Tom is good guy by nature and has provided me the reassurance that this system can pull through which is what I have been falling for all this time given my circumstances. His Home Course which cost $750 allow you access to his personal email/text/calls and he will supply you what you have seen in this Thread in the form of Microsoft Word Documents together with Video Links (password enabled) that aids and reinforces the lesson that you find in said Word Documents. Of course, the added advantage is being able to learn this System from the System developer himself (for 3months) and should you not have paid that amount, would not be given any "help" whatsoever.

He also supplies 1-on-1 training with him personally, 1 to 3 days Courses which vary from $1500 - $4500 subjective to the duration of the Course you wish to take, and obviously, $4500 would grant you full access to everything he had learned and guidance that comes along with it. Personally, you can attribute this to my naiveness as this is the first time I had purchased a Baccarat System solely from the Testimonials and Live-play reports that he displays on his website.

You may or may not find success with his system but it is certain that you will spend a lot of time developing this knowledge that might prove ineffective through your personal experimentation.

I'm not asking anything.  What you describe is his send (and final perhaps) iteration.  Yes, he is genuinely a good guy - and a believer in his method.

[alrelax]

From Alrelax:


I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it when I am successful is because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions come got it from always and not coming out at from one way the way that most systems teach and preach.the times that I come out the games I am playing one way I usually prop it a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it. for example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table 1 a couple hundred thousand we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways if we used one layer set method it never would have happened and we know that for a fact.but I am very curious about dr. Tom and send him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask them questions and he's never answered him and the reason why you never answered him I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them.I had the shoe clearly posted from the board itself at the casino and the scorecard why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good. I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way I either lose money or make very little. the times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way bidding decision let's call that the direction door but I used all directions which I've also written about which would be 8 directions. and when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers?please answer.




^This is not a testimonial about Dr. Tom's Baccarat System, but some notes by alrelax on how he plays which is how most successful players play.

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Yes--that is Correct!!!!

[21 Aces]

Maybe a lot of people that acquire a system don't full understand its strengths and weaknesses OR times where you should go discretionary.


OR times where you should go discretionary.
OR times where you should go discretionary.
OR times where you should go discretionary.

Maybe a system is good for stuff/ chop shoe parts, but when a shoe goes clear and with a strong progression then capitalize on it...?

[alrelax]

Here is what I wrote last night (early AM hours and could not edit it the right way on my phone)  I corrected the typos here-I think it is important for the record, thanks, Alrelax.

Here it is cleaned up and proper to read what I tried to convey this morning:

I call it the way I see it and I've been playing this game a long long time and I do have great success with it at times and other times I cannot profit I don't play every day and I don't play the same way and part of My Success that I do have with it comes, is that I am successful  because I have analyzed and used my own psyche and decisions.  I play the shoe all ways and not coming at it from just one way, the way that most systems teach and preach.  The times that I come at the shoes when I am playing one way, I usually profit a lot less than when I keep an open mind and I'm conscious of the correct way to play that I have tried to explain.   

I hope this isn't getting too complicated but there's no other way to explain it.  For example I just won nearly $30,000 on the one shoe and I posted it and it was a phenomenal shoe to me and my buddy combined we won almost $70,000 and the table won a couple hundred thousand easily, we did it because we kept an open mind and we came at that shoe with everything that all of us knew from all different ways.   If we used one way, set methods/betting protocols-- it never would have happened and we know that for a fact.  But I am very curious about dr. Tom and sent him a couple of emails and try to explain some things and ask him some questions and he's never answered.   Maybe the reason why he  never answered me, is  I think he knows who I am and he doesn't want to get involved or talked about??  I don't know and I won't talk bad about him I don't think his system can Prevail the majority of the times, however I do not know enough about him or his system but I know as a commercial person selling something he is very biased like all the rest of them.  He has to be, he is selling something and wants you money--he is not non-profit or a charity.  Nothing wrong, just a fact.

I had the shoe clearly posted from the casino score board itself and the scorecard, why don't you run it with the way that dr. Tom teaches and see how much you would have won using your regular bet and there's a good start to see if the system is any good.  I know from 100% no doubt in my mind if I go into a shoe and wager one way or preconceived way, I either lose money or make very little.  The times that I make a good deal of money in comparison to what I buy in with and bet, it is because I didn't have the mind frame of a one way betting decision, let's call that a 'one way direction', but I used all directions which I've also written about which would include 8 different directions.  And when the shoe comes at you from all different ways how is wagering one way going to allow you to win the majority of your Wagers?  Please answer.

[21 Aces]

Has anyone reviewed the money management he presents by 'De Allen Baer'?  This spelling is most likely wrong and I haven't found other references on-line.

AND THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE STALKING ME OVER DR. TOM'S BACCARAT SYSTEM.  I DO NOT EFFING HAVE IT AND DON'T PLAN TO ACQUIRE IT.  I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM OTHER THAN CHECKING WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING ABOUT HIS SYSTEM.  I THOUGHT THIS MONEY MANAGEMENT VIDEO HE POSTED WAS INTERESTING AND AM ASKING ABOUT IT.  WTH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwKlkpCJBr8