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[Sputnik]

 
I had to test this again as i am afraid for curve fitting and i can not believe this results ... amazing ...
2014 06 05 random org

LWLLWWWWLWLWLWWWWLWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWLWLWLWWWWWWW

Sequence ...

2 1 1
1 2 1
2 2 2
1 2 2 L
1 2 2 W
1 1 1
1 1 2 L
1 2 1 L
2 2 2
1 2 1 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 1
2 2 1 W
1 1 2
1 1 2 W
1 2 2
2 1 1
1 2 1 L
1 2 1 W
2 1 2
1 1 1
1 1 2 L
2 1 2 W
1 1 1
2 2 1
2 2 2 L
2 2 1 W
1 2 2
2 1 2
2 2 1 W
1 2 1
2 1 1
1 2 1 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 1
1 1 2
1 1 1 L
2 1 1 W
1 2 2
1 1 1
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 W
1 2 1
2 2 1
1 1 2
2 1 1 L
2 1 1 W
2 2 1
1 2 1
2 1 2 L
1 1 2
1 2 1 W
2 2 2
1 2 1 W
2 1 2
2 2 2
1 2 1 W
2 1 2
2 1 2 W
1 1 1
1 1 1 W
1 2 1
2 2 1
2 1 2
2 1 2 W
2 1 2 W
1 1 2
1 2 1
1 2 2 L
1 2 2 W
2 2 2
2 1 2
2 1 1 L
1 1 2
2 2 2 W
2 2 1 L
1 1 2
1 2 2
2 2 2 W
2 1 1
1 2 1
2 1 2 L
2 2 2 W
1 1 1
2 1 2
2 2 2 W
1 2 1
2 2 2 W
1 2 1
1 2 1 W
2 1 2
1 1 1
1 1 1 W
2 1 2
2 1 2 W
1 2 2
2 2 1
1 2 2 W
1 2 2 W

[Sputnik]

 Ok i just write down the basic first and come with deeper explanation later.First i don't bet if i don't get two banker patterns to match for a repeat or two player patterns to match.Then the random flow grow with banker and player patterns with no match up to the breaking point when they have to repeat, then i start betting.

[Sputnik]

 
I will write down this method and make a PDF ...

[Atlantis]

Hi sputnik,
It is interesting. Look forward to your pdf explanation.
A.

[SamNL]

I agree with Atlantis.
Very interesting. Am looking forward to the PDF file

[RouletteFan]

Looking for PDF
thanks

[Rolex-Watch]

David did admit to the group at BF's that he suffered a mental disorder;

So where would that rank you?

Eirescott mainly focuses on Roulette and certain devices and can be found occasionally on other forums.

[Luckyfella]

I noticed that many do not understand the way to place bet so here's an example of a live burn card deck using 11bets for 24 unique -


                             Flat          Flat
                             Bet           Bet
P  P  B   X   X   O
B  P  B   X   Ox X      L
P  B  B   X   O   Ox    L
B  B  P   X   Xx  Ox    L/W
B  B  B   X   Xx  X      W             W
B  P  P   X   Ox  O      L
P  B  P   X   O    Xx     L
P  P  B   X   Xx   O     L/L
P  B  P   X   Ox   X     L              L
B  B  P   X   X    Ox    W            W
B  B  P   X   Xx   O     W
B  B  P   X   Xx   O     W
P  P  P   X    Xx   X     W
B  B  B  X    Xx   X     W
P  P  P   X    Xx   X     W
B  B  B  X    Xx   X     W


*x is where the bet is made.


After many shoes of live data, the observed data from live shoes of 8 decks burn card, the best result is when the flat bet is placed for the next 3 bets following a LLLW or LLLL result as shown in the 2nd  column bet example above. The average profit potential is net of +10 units over 30 decks.


The practical approach is to for 2 persons to play at the dual electronic baccarat machine over 8 hrs that'll give a total of 32 decks(2persons x 2 decks x 8 hrs = 32 decks)


All credit goes to sputnik 

[Atlantis]

Hi Luckyfella,

Nice result and I understand about the LLLL and LLLW triggers...
Thanks for reporting on your findings as well. What I'm struggling with or should I say slightly confused with is working out WHY the bets are made when they are..? The X O thing I find a little puzzling to say the least...
Should I be reading the results vertically or horizontally and looking for matches or non-matches of the patterns?
In any case I would probably apply it to roulette eg: red black or high low - that is if I could totally understand the rules!


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A.

[Luckyfella]

I'll answer your queries 1 by 1.


The source B/P data is recorded in 3 data to a row format starting from left to right, the 4th data will be the 1st column 2nd row, it continues with the 3 data to a row format with the 7th data on the 1st column 3rd row and so on.


This source data is translated to X and O. The 1st column of any row is marked as X. Compare the 2nd column data with the 1 column data, if same its translated as X and different as O. The 3rd column is compared with the 1st column, if same its translated as X and different as O.


The exact place where the bet is where most people are confused. Remember the purpose of the bet is for a repeat, that is to deny a unique trail to occur. The spot for bet placement is marked B. ? denotes X or O after the source data is translated.


?   ?   ?
?   B  ?
?   ?   B
?   B   B


This follows the rules laid out by Sputnik in the 11 bets for 24 unique(reply #8). I made tweaks to stop at the 4th loss and reset with the 4th bet loss row to be the starter.


I chose this sequence with tweaks above after studying the collected data from shoes from b&m casino.


There'll be further issues if used with roulette -


1. how to handle zero


2. how to determine the starter row. There are 3 possibilities.


If any of you have further inputs pls post below.


Post data from your local b&m casino to compare that the results is not temporary or localised, to determine swings and stoploss to name a few, that'll be to the benefit of all including yourself. I can see many readers so do your part to contribute positively which is what this forum is for.

[Sputnik]

Step 1

Take a dice with six sides.
It has 98.5% probability that at least one side will repeat at least once.
And the dice has 1.5% probability to show each side once with no present repeat.

Conclusion:
98.5% of times the dice will occur with imbalance.

Step 2

Lets say i have a dice with eight sides, then the dice has to have more then 98.5% probability to repeat it self and less then 1.5% to alternate.

Step 3

If i can not catch the repeat during the process when all events is about to show.
Then i don't have 98.5% probability or above to catch at least one repeat.

Step 4

So if i wait for all event to show exept one sleeping one and play against it "trending"...
Then i face 50/50 situation as the imbalance has alredy occur.
All i can hope for is for the repeaters to continue, but i lost my 98.5% probability advantage.

Step 5

So if i mix all this, then i come to the following conclusion.
New events come and go at all times and repeating events occur at all times.
And the situation is always 50/50 when i jump on board as there is no beginning or end of the random flow.

Step 6

But if i cut the random flow into my personal permanenze with windows of attacks.
Then 98.5% of my windows or cuts of the random flow will have imbalance and 1.5% of the windows will fail.
And no matter how many test i do, so will they show me nothing as the only thing that counts is my own placed bets that is part of my personal permanenze.
So no matter if i play non stop or using hit and run i face the same animal.

[esoito]

A very thoughtful analysis. 

Have you forgotten about releasing the PDF you mentioned earlier, or have you changed your mind and decided not to release it?

No pressure -- just tying up a loose end. 

[Sputnik]

Well my version is different as i cover all possibilitys and have the odds 99.76% of winning ...
I come up with a way to just bet as the random flow unfold, so there is no real triggers or bet selection ...
But for does who had a hard time following this can read the two PDFs i attach ...

[Sputnik]

 I find one losing session where 99.76% of winning fail ... i find 8 uniq patterns that i cover with only 8 loses ...
Random org 2015 07 11

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1 1 2
1 2 1
2 2 1
1 2 1 W
1 1 1
1 1 2 L
2 2 1
2 2 2 L
2 1 2
2 1 1 L
1 2 2 LL
1 2 1 LLL
1 2 2
2 1 1
1 2 1 L
1 2 1 W
2 1 1
2 1 1 W



[Rolex-Watch]

The problem with this, is the number of potential losing bets you have to withstand before you hit your single winning bet.  Doesn't work using "pairs", I've tested "triplets", strike rate is just as poor.