Our old friend Izak Matatya has a NEW baccarat system just released:
THE GAMBLERS DREAM
http://www.letstalkwinning.com/Dream.htm
Some talk about it in the LTW discussion here:
https://www.letstalkwinning.com/forum/read.php?1,46484
(although you might have to log in first)
It's $1000 if you want to buy it. However if you buy in Aug 2017 it is offered at 75% discount: $250. (cheaper than Tabone's)
Regards,
A.
Atlantis..
Are u gonna get it ?
I have watching the thread over there.........bets player only I think....so if its played on craps , guess ya only constantly bet one side ?
@ Atlantis : I've browsed Izak's in the past. I found it 2good2betrue.
I bought a couple of his IBS Systems years ago. I did not win using his.
Izak is the best clown in the baccarat town.
I got for free his systems and they are a total b.ullshit.
I refrain to post here such systems because other that not working at all, they would be an offense to common intelligence.
I've read more insightful ideas from gr8player, Sputnik, RolexWatch, Bally and some others here.
For free.
Don't feed the unintelligent. Instead, before purchasing anything, ask him how's the advantage of Banker when it has 5 point vs a player 4 point.
He doesn't know the answer as he doesn't know anything at all.
as.
BTW, anyone wanting to sell a system or a book must first explain the reader how the random walk works.
Then discussing the absorbing probabilities, the probability of success after x trials, the risk of ruin, the expected standard deviation values of the method adopted and so on.
If the seller isn't going to touch those scientific issues, tell the writer or the seller to reassess his/her work.
Nobody will. As they don't know what you are talking about.
as.
Thanks,
I was just wondering. I got his SFBBS - The Secret Flat Bet Baccarat System (which bets P only). I guess you know it. I found it very hard work winning with it. IMHO a simple system- but not for me to bother with.
I agree with you about the interesting member's free ideas and tweaks. You do learn more. And it's more friendlier too! That's what this forum is supposed to be all about, isn't it? Not johnny-come-lately's to come on and hijack spamming the forum with pretend proxy's to the nth degree and all just to insert backlinks and false appraisals for some desperado's ebook campaign... (Oops. Better keep quiet, hadn't I?)
If you keep hating me Atlantis you'll help my sales grow even more because I've started to notice a direct correlation. So thank you sir. Thank you very much indeed.
https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Golden-Baccarat-Winning-Strategy/dp/1973905019/ref=la_B01COOOED8_1_13?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502680028&sr=1-13&refinements=p_82%3AB01COOOED8
#1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/books/4423/ref=zg_b_hnr_4423_1
Anyhow, I'm leaving this forum again, forever. Goodbye.
Quote from: Stephen Tabone on August 14, 2017, 03:08:23 AM
If you keep hating me Atlantis you'll help my sales grow
"Hate" you? I don't hate you - whatever gave you that impression?? You misunderstand.
In the end if you carry on like this I guess your questionable behaviour and ultimate fate will be decided by the System Admins + Mods. This is a gambling forum for gambling. I am not the system seller. YOU ARE. You must be prepared to take some of the flak that can result from you being here and advertising your gambling products in the manner you have been doing.
Face up to the fact that you won't be allowed to continue like this forever, especially if you break the rules and don't conform to forum etiquette and so on... A friendly warning - it's for your own good, health and sanity, mate.
Seriously though. Take my advice. Why not start your own forum where YOU can be the BIG MAN in full editorial control with the power to keep or even sack members according to your own whims or desires if they don't agree with you or start mild criticism. You might like that and I think it will suit your domineering personality... Don't try and do it here though. Give us a bit more respect and intelligence than that. You're no better than we are and you know it sonny!
And less of the o.t.t. PM insults already. Grow up.
In business you sometimes live in a dog eat dog world - and I just happen to be one of your "nastier" types of canines!
Take care,
A.
Quote from: Atlantis on August 14, 2017, 03:37:30 AM
"Hate" you? I don't hate you - whatever gave you that impression?? You misunderstand.
In the end if you carry on like this I guess your questionable behaviour and ultimate fate will be decided by the System Admins + Mods. This is a gambling forum for gambling. I am not the system seller. YOU ARE. You must be prepared to take some of the flak that can result from you being here and advertising your gambling products in the manner you have been doing.
Face up to the fact that you won't be allowed to continue like this forever, especially if you break the rules and don't conform to forum etiquette and so on... A friendly warning - it's for your own good, health and sanity, mate.
Seriously though. Take my advice. Why not start your own forum where YOU can be the BIG MAN in full editorial control with the power to keep or even sack members according to your own whims or desires if they don't agree with you or start mild criticism. You might like that and I think it will suit your domineering personality... Don't try and do it here though. Give us a bit more respect and intelligence than that. You're no better than we are and you know it sonny!
And less of the o.t.t. PM insults already. Grow up.
In business you sometimes live in a dog eat dog world - and I just happen to be one of your "nastier" types of canines!
Take care,
A.
I misunderstand...yeah of course I do when I read your posts. Sure I misunderstand.
What you wrote and planed is a bit more than what you call 'flak'.
I'm not 'breaking the rules', I'm not insulting people and plotting against them as you have been. You're breaking the rules.
"Sonny" you write, "nastier" canines you say you are, forcing me to do what I don't want to do. Underlined threats...Come on give me a break will you I'm not afraid of you. Thus stop your threats because you'll be reported and the evidence is all there.
I'm only writing about my strategy
The Ultimate Golden Secret Baccarat Winning Strategy 3.0
But you're doing a lot more aren't you. I sense your hate in the actions of your posts as anyone can read. Look at your own behavior before suggesting that I am doing anything wrong. I have not broken any rules but you clearly have. And you know it.
Best just avoid my posts, don't refer to me and stop your plotting, taunting PMs and threats, you don't scare me. Bye.
Anyhow, I'm leaving this forum again, forever. Goodbye.
Well, I sense this forum has shifted. We used to have a healthy discussion over baccarat, method, system, and so on. Sure, they will be some harsh time occasionally. But could be tolerated. Sometime it was funny actually.
Now, the focus is mostly about this "books". I make sure I don't forget the "s" this time. LoL
IMO, there is some party that takes advantages of what's going on here. With all the debate, the drama, chaos and everything along.
Is this how thing work in this forum now ?
The plan, or strategies is rather out of the box. We witnessed how Trump could regain his position. With all his campaigns, controversy and etc. His purpose is filled. He reached his goals.
Maybe someone was inspired by that.
I could sense what's coming next. Every negative comment, every insulting(?) post, will be reacted equally, and always remember to spell/mention the title correctly.
Suddenly, some "new" member, will raise question about the "books", and when the hater reply, the promotion will repeat itself.
And it will keep going on and on and on like that.
I am not the owner, moderator or anything related to this forum. I found this forum is where I could learn a lot.
It is sad actually, if this forum's purpose has changed.
I don't hate the player, nor the game. Nothing will advantage me by doing such.
With every comment, you slowly build up a "poison" in you. And you wish the other party will suffer from it. The hatred will consume you, not the other.
To become a "silent reader", is the best option for me. Haha. But frankly I don't know for how long.
The character of the member here, is very unique. You don't need a lot of fuel to lit up the fire. And to roast a big boar you need a big flame. Or else, it won't be done.
From now, I will "over and out" for a while. Before I get to watch-list, moderate or even get banned
Trump, lol, yeah well I guess you have to support your Atlantis friend in all 'his' hate that is clear from his posts of me. If he wouldn't have written all that he did, then a member wouldn't have emailed me to warn me of what he was up to as anyone can see. It is not I that runs this site down it's people like him. But of course you don't see it that way do you that because you advocate this behavior.
Anyhow, I'm leaving this forum again, forever. Goodbye.
Forever ? Ok, bye !
Quote from: Atlantis on August 14, 2017, 02:15:25 AM
Thanks,
I was just wondering. I got his SFBBS - The Secret Flat Bet Baccarat System (which bets P only). I guess you know it. I found it very hard work winning with it. IMHO a simple system- but not for me to bother with.
I agree with you about the interesting member's free ideas and tweaks. You do learn more. And it's more friendlier too! That's what this forum is supposed to be all about, isn't it? Not johnny-come-lately's to come on and hijack spamming the forum with pretend proxy's to the nth degree and all just to insert backlinks and false appraisals for some desperado's ebook campaign... (Oops. Better keep quiet, hadn't I?)
You're only Jealous of Stephen's books, because he is a #1 baccarat strategy best selling author. I wrote to him and he wrote back and said he has many more book coming out and he is selling his books while you have nothing to do but come on here and cause trouble.
You're Jealous because he can come up with great world winning systems, writes about them and sells them but you can't come up with any system, have to steal systems, have to commit fraud and pretend that you are such a great and fantastic baccarat player when in reality you do not have a clue about baccarat.
If you were a genuine kind of guy you wouldn't be behaving like a donut. You probably never ever gamble on baccarat but are only here for a bit of company because you don't have anyone else to talk to in the reality of your mundane meaningless existence.
I read https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Golden-Baccarat-Winning-Strategy/dp/1973905019/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502671711&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Ultimate+Golden+Secret+Baccarat+Winning+Strategy+3.0
I am now up winning 1,800. The book is the holy grail of all baccarat systems. Tabone is a number 1 best selling casino gaming author and his book is a #1 baccarat bestseller, this is the reason you write to try and dismiss his work; it's because your Jealous, because you could come up with a better system yourself. If you could you would have written a book and wouldn't be hiding away and fishing for ideas.
The reason you do what you do is because you're Jealous and no doubt a loser, have never ever won anything playing baccarat.
What are you even doing on this forum? You don't believe in systems, you don't gamble on baccarat. Are you very lonely?
Quote from: Atlantis on August 14, 2017, 03:37:30 AM
"Hate" you? I don't hate you - whatever gave you that impression?? You misunderstand.
In the end if you carry on like this I guess your questionable behaviour and ultimate fate will be decided by the System Admins + Mods. This is a gambling forum for gambling. I am not the system seller. YOU ARE. You must be prepared to take some of the flak that can result from you being here and advertising your gambling products in the manner you have been doing.
Face up to the fact that you won't be allowed to continue like this forever, especially if you break the rules and don't conform to forum etiquette and so on... A friendly warning - it's for your own good, health and sanity, mate.
Seriously though. Take my advice. Why not start your own forum where YOU can be the BIG MAN in full editorial control with the power to keep or even sack members according to your own whims or desires if they don't agree with you or start mild criticism. You might like that and I think it will suit your domineering personality... Don't try and do it here though. Give us a bit more respect and intelligence than that. You're no better than we are and you know it sonny!
And less of the o.t.t. PM insults already. Grow up.
In business you sometimes live in a dog eat dog world - and I just happen to be one of your "nastier" types of canines!
Take care,
A.
Nasty Canine? Emm sounds like you're out to get Stephen, author of the greatest baccarat strategy in the world. Can you try to keep the forum chat baccarat please Atlantis, your post more than smell of hate and conspiracy. Try to refrain from it all.
I have been talking to Izak for long. He weaves systems around zumma books only. All his methods are playable but nothing makes any difference in real play in long run. I do not know much about Tabone's but we have many members using his system who can write a true review. A long run simulation on a random sample would do justice with any test.
Thanks albalaha for sharing your experience with the various Izak systems.
I've only tried abt 3 or 4 of his - and it's what I thought.
I don't think I'll be purchasing any of them quite soon myself - he does have quite an awful lot of them, doesn't he? covering all forms of gambling - but he does have regular special offers and occasionally gives out free systems via his newsletter. His forum is also quite good (LTW)
Unlike Tabone he has his own site + systems + forum. People know where they stand. He doesn't seem to splash or mass bombard other forums with his announcements; but only to those who have signed up with him. Tabone could learn a thing or two from him.
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we have many members using his system who can write a true review. A long run simulation on a random sample would do justice with any test.
This more to the point and would be a far more interesting. Love to see that too. Let the truth come out for all to see - not just hang on what might be dodgy or suspect claims from the system originator. Thanks.
Quote from: Albalaha on August 14, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
I have been talking to Izak for long. He weaves systems around zumma books only. All his methods are playable but nothing makes any difference in real play in long run. I do not know much about Tabone's but we have many members using his system who can write a true review. A long run simulation on a random sample would do justice with any test.
Albalaha,
Very true about Izak's stuff. Mostly worked around Zumma for data and display. Most of his stuff carries a high wager somewhere in the mix as he like to press on losses.
As to reviewing Tabone's stuff, there are several people here who can and would give it a fair test on a long term basis, but evidently that's not to be as nobody will purchase the thing at whatever price it is today. Hopefully it will eventually drift into the internet somewhere and we can all test it, but in the mean time, it's just all talk in spite of the glowing reports from many NEW members.
AD
Quote from: Stephen Tabone on August 14, 2017, 04:21:30 AM
Anyhow, I'm leaving this forum again, forever. Goodbye.
Stephen, we know you are a man of your word, but just to remove the temptation of breaking your firm decision of leaving as per your word, you account has been removed from the forum to align us with your expressed intention/wishes.
and never forget the biggest difference between Izak vs anybody else. He offers moneyback on any of his books. Hence if you feel that by paying him you feel getting nothing, ask for a moneyback within a stipulated time frame and he honors that.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on August 14, 2017, 02:06:23 AM
BTW, anyone wanting to sell a system or a book must first explain the reader how the random walk works.
Then discussing the absorbing probabilities, the probability of success after x trials, the risk of ruin, the expected standard deviation values of the method adopted and so on.
If the seller isn't going to touch those scientific issues, tell the writer or the seller to reassess his/her work.
Nobody will. As they don't know what you are talking about.
as.
Excellent! Most, when questioned usually just throw back a question to you, and attempt to turn the tables and make it appear as through your question or yourself is far beneath their 'baccarat intelligence' and system they are attempting to portray as rock-solid something no one else has ever seen, discovered or learned in the hundreds of years the game has been played. Etc.
And, Tabone is not the first one, he just studied the internet and Googled it all up--IMO. His attempted sales tactics into threats, attempted power and knowledge, along with all the rest--just propelled himself into the spotlight with the help of the 3 to 6 members on this board that live for the drama and the in-fighting trying to stir the proverbial pot into chaos, is the best way to phrase it all.