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[georgebac]

hello gr8player, i would like to know how much of bank roll do u use when u play baccarat. also can you please tell me the unit size u bet when playing bac. i know you were saying u started to play bac for a living now. i wish u lots of success. Please tell me your style of a play. do u like the 2nd holes or 3rd holes. Do you ever play in the begining of a shoe or the middle of a shoe when trends are formed.  how much time you spend on 1 shoe. what's your stop lose on 1 shoe or stop win on a shoe. what do u think of Resorts World Casino in Queens. Do you believe on the machines that they use. Please when you get a chance to answer my questions. Thank you and be well. Lots of Success for you!!!!

[gr8player]

Hello, Georgebac, and thank you for the well-wishes.

I just got back from my weekly AC trip, so please forgive my tardiness in responding.

My unit sizes vary, dependent upon certain variance stats that I carry on each of my trend plays; suffice to say that they are worthwhile, both for my expenses and time.  And, while on that subject, I am of the opinion that while one never wants to find themselves "over-betting their bankroll" or betting outside of their own personal "comfort zone", their unit sizes need be realistic in relation to their desired win goals.

I buy in for anywhere from 25 to 50 units.  That said, it'd be a rare day indeed where all of the units would ever be "in play"; I simply happen to be the sort of player that likes to know I'll always have ammunition (read: chips) in front of me.  Puts me into the right "mindset" for me to begin battle with the casino.

My "playing style" is that of a trender.  In other words, I attempt to "read" the shoe.  For me, it works more often than it does not, and so it fits into my wheelhouse.  I am a player that prefers to "think" at the tables; there are players, however, that prefer to play a bit more "pre-planned", or mechanically, if you will.  Whatever works for each particular player is exactly what they should adopt for their own sort of play.  And so I trend.

Now, that said, I do have my "favorite" trends, or "preferred" trends, if you will.  Certain trends that I, shall I say, specialize in. Why?  Because they, when they hit, are prone to bring me "clusters" of wins, and I happen to be of the opinion that winning "clusters" are a necessity in the play of any EC (read: even chance) game.  We, as players, need wins.  So where do we find them?  How do we go about obtaining them?  The answer, for me, is in certain trends that can, when they do appear, "run" or "streak".

Now...one minute...lest anyone ever believe that I am a "run"and/or "streak" chaser, let's eliminate that thought right here and now.  I chase nothing.  I much prefer my trends "find me" rather than the other way around.  But how is that possible?  How do I know when my winning clusters are about to appear?  Answer:  I don't.  I "know" nothing.  I put a chip up and if it wins the dealer pays me and if it doesn't, she takes my chips away.  And so I lose the bet.  Yeah...so what?  I've lost alot of bets...so what?  I lose a 1/2 unit when I'm wrong.  So, let's see....what do I make when I am right?  Well, I parlay that first winner...yes, I parlay...as I stated earlier, my preferred trends will come in clusters, and so will my wins.  So as long as that trend lasts, I pick up a full unit, while losing but a 1/2 unit at each failure.  And you know, Georgebac, I've come to actually LOVE those odds.  I'm fine with it.  So when my preferred trends "find me", I find money.  Plain and simple....I'm well-paid whenever I am correct about any one of my trends.

As to my "stop-loss", that's rather subjective in my case, because I'll adjust that based upon both real and fictional (read: no-bet) losses.  So that's a bit more of an "each different circumstance" sort of thing; suffice to know that I am never "all-in" at any one table.

Lastly, Georgebac, no, I do not play at Resorts World in Queens.  Wish I could, it's nearby...but I simply cannot trust the results of those "computers".  Pretty much the same reason that I'd never play online, either.  No, I need to witness, live, the cards being dealt out of the shoe for me to believe the results thereof.

Well, that should about do it for your queries...take care, Georgebac, and good luck with your Bac play.

[gr8player]

Here's a very "preferred" trend of mine:

The "dom".  Where one side is "dominating" the current results.

How would one spot the potential "dom"?

Look at the "weaker" side.  Key your play off of that.  How?  When one side is only "singling" (or 2, at most), simply bet for the "stronger" (or dominating) side.  And keep doing so until that "weaker" side awakes.

Now...one minute...that all sounds much too simple...it can't be, can it?:

Well, yes and no.  While it's relatively easy for me to spot any potential dom, they simply don't always pan out.  Great when they do, not-so-great when they don't.

And that's where patience and discipline and, especially in this case, money-management comes in.  Bottom line:

You MUST make more money when you're RIGHT about the dom (or, frankly, any trend) than you lose when your wrong.  And, that, my friends, is what MM is all about.  Losing less while winning more. 

And that philosophy plays well into certain trends that, again, have the propensity to bring about "winning clusters".  Like the "dom".

[Jimske]

Resorts World has a machine shuffling and then a machine dealing. Most casinos have a machine shuffling and the human being dealing. so if its just a difference of or what is dealing the cards I don't see what difference it makes.  Do you think that resort world is using the machine that's different then shuffle master. Maybe it's shuffle master that produces the machine. Someone should check.

[georgebac]

Hello gr8player

I need some help on how to be good playing baccarat.
What trends do u focus on and when do u start betting
On a given shoe   Also can u help me with me money management
Please. If I have 2000 in the table what's my starting bet should be
And what's my highest bet should be. What's my winning goal should be per session and per day. Thank you please reply.

[Sputnik]

 georgebac you waste your time - buy a book about gambling ...

I attach trend chatcher for you to read ... to get you started ...

Cheers

[soxfan]

The gr88888888888888one is a serious cat, hey hey.

[gr8player]

Hello, Soxster....what's up?....you, I hope.  Stay well, my friend.

Georgebac, I feel as if I'd replied already to your inquiries earlier in the thread.  And Sputnik was kind enough to post the "trend catcher" methodology, and that's, I suppose, a good start for any wannabe trender.  Thanks, Sputnik.

A $2000 buy-in should see initial bets no higher than $75 and max bets of $200....and even that number would come up only as my parlay attempt.

Try to win $300.  That's it....$300.  Learn to hit it and quit it.  Learn to walk a winner.

As for the flip side, the losing end.....$600.  Or $800 max.  (Sometimes I'll stay for one or two more bets if it appears as if my plays are beginning to pop.)  But learning to walk your loser is just as important as walking your winner.  No one wins every shoe, no one wins every session, no one wins every day.  Try to see it as a long-term venture, just as any business does.

Gotta go....Borgata awaits this Mon thru Wed.  Back Thurs.

Take care.

[georgebac]

hello my dear friend, best keep us posted how you doing playing baccarat full time s a job? how much do you make on a weekly basis playing baccarat. which casinos do you like playing the most and why? what's you win and lose goals for the day or for the week. Thank you! Keep up the good work and make more money>>

[HunchBacShrimp]

Hey GR8,

Pretty sure I read where you have lowered your unit size. I'm not concerned with its value but I was wondering if you have increased your unit win goal.

Are you still trying to net the same dollar amount? Or have you like halved your unit size but only increased your win goal from 12 to 15 or 18? Or are you still aiming for 12 units?

HBS

[gr8player]

Hello, HBS.  Please excuse my tardy reply as I was in AC from Tues thru Thurs.

I have, indeed, lowered my unit sizes.  I felt the need, as I am now more of a "full-time" player, to ease the pressure on myself.  Especially needless pressure.  I've said it a million times...."control what you can control"....and unit sizes, bet amounts and progressions; these are all things that we can control, and I wish to alleviate any pressure on either me or my bankroll.  Lowering my unit sizes effectively accomplishes this.

However, that also lowers my win goals.  There's nothing I can do about that, for they go hand-in-hand.  But, as a much more "full-time" player, I can put in much more time at the tables, and that helps to make up for the lowered win goals.  In other words, I am now able to play more sessions, and so my numbers are still adding up nicely.  (Maybe not as nicely as before, but I must take into account the most important consideration:  I've lowered my "risk of ruin" down to miniscule sizes.)

Look, in the end, it's all a matter of personal taste.  I've always been more of the conservative type of player; all I've done now is honed that edge even sharper.

Take care.

[Rolex-Watch]

Here's a very "preferred" trend of mine:

The "dom".  Where one side is "dominating" the current results.

How would one spot the potential "dom"?

Look at the "weaker" side.  Key your play off of that.  How?  When one side is only "singling" (or 2, at most), simply bet for the "stronger" (or dominating) side.  And keep doing so until that "weaker" side awakes.

Now...one minute...that all sounds much too simple...it can't be, can it?:

Well, yes and no.  While it's relatively easy for me to spot any potential dom, they simply don't always pan out.  Great when they do, not-so-great when they don't.

And that's where patience and discipline and, especially in this case, money-management comes in.  Bottom line:

You MUST make more money when you're RIGHT about the dom (or, frankly, any trend) than you lose when your wrong.  And, that, my friends, is what MM is all about.  Losing less while winning more. 

And that philosophy plays well into certain trends that, again, have the propensity to bring about "winning clusters".  Like the "dom".

Ahh come on great player, I'm getting all confused now.  How can I possibly hope to emulate your style, when first it was (2014) trend each side individually and follow the trend, then 12 months later it's follow the count of the 1's, 2's and 3's, now a few more months and it's follow the DOM.  Hey what about the "new top", where does that fit in to all of this Mr Long Term?

Wishing you all the best, well best of it my friend etc.

[Rolex-Watch]

Hello, HBS.  Please excuse my tardy reply as I was in AC from Tues thru Thurs.

I have, indeed, lowered my unit sizes.  I felt the need, as I am now more of a "full-time" player, to ease the pressure on myself. 

So now it's down to $100 minimum, so it must have been higher before yes/no, which contradicts what you said a few years back on another forum.

For the last time, I do NOT bet $400 per hand. IF you must know, my initial unit size is $100, and I employ parlays (or partial parlays) that will see me bet to $200 or even $250. Now, occassionally, when my variance is showing stats that deem it necessary, I will raise my intial unit size to $200, and then my parlays will have me betting as high as $400, or even $500. But those occassions, Thank Goodness, are rare, indeed.
http://baccaratforums.com/t7003/thread-page-3/#post44691

So this must mean, you now bet $25 or $50 minimum,  of course it doesn't matter, so I don't know why you even mention it in the first place, unless  it's an attention deficiency complex of some sort. 

[Eight Iron]

Resorts World has a machine shuffling and then a machine dealing. Most casinos have a machine shuffling and the human being dealing. so if its just a difference of or what is dealing the cards I don't see what difference it makes.  Do you think that resort world is using the machine that's different then shuffle master. Maybe it's shuffle master that produces the machine. Someone should check.

I play there and I have seen the shuffling mechanism in operation a few times, when the machine was opened for repair.
The European company 'Interblock' makes the machine.
The shuffler does not resemble the Shuffle Master mechanism at all, but it could be using the same RNG.
I believe it uses multiple RNG's that are changed intermittently.
I play the Organic machine differently from a hand shuffled game.
When I play the machines, I always study the last 120-150 hands displayed on the console and use a strategy to suit the results that I see displayed on the screen.
I do not believe RNG's are perfectly random, and if I see a play that 'wins' a few more times than it 'loses' over two shoes, I will bet it.
It could be as simple as only betting P one time after every BB.
I figure that if the RNG has been shuffling the cards this way for the past two shoes, then this is how I should play them.
Some days, I leave without betting a single hand.
I recently had a few rare sightings only days apart, where for a few sessions; I was able to 'Ride the Pony', and flat bet whichever side won the previous hand.
I only risked betting this way after first studying the consoles and seeing that RTP reached some high win levels and did not lose ten units off any level over the previous two shoes.
I do not suggest using RTP with hand shuffled cards.
I begin betting at any point in the shoe.  Some of these sessions started on one shoe, and ended one or two shoes later.
Day 1
PTBBBBBPPBBPPPBBBPBPPBPPBPTBBPPBBTBBPBBBPPPBPTTTBBBPBPBBPPPBTPPBTBBPTBBBBBBBPPBPBBPBBTBBPPPBBBPBBPBBBBBBBPBBPBBBPPBBTTPPBBBBBPBPPPPTPBBBBPPPPPPBBBPPBBBBBBPBBBPPBPPPPPPBPBB   +21
Different table.
BBPPPBBBBBBBPBPPPBBPPPBTBBBBTBBBBPBPBPBBPPBBBTBBPBPPPTBBPPPBBBBBBBPTBBBBPBPTBPBPTPPBPPPTPPBBBBPBBBBBBPPPBPBBPPBBBBBBPBBPPPPPTBPPBPTBPBPPPPTBPPPPPTBPPPPBPBTBBBPPPPTBPPPPBPBTBBBPPPPTBBPPBBPBPPPBBBPBBBBPBPPBBBBP    +26
Different table.
PBPPPBTPTPPPPPBPBBBPBTPBBBBPBBPBBPBPPPPTBBBPPPPPPPPPPPBBPBPPBPPPPBBBBPTPPBPTBBPPPPBTBBBPTPBPPPPBTBBBPBTPBPPTBPBBPBBBBPBTPPTBBPPPBPPBBBBBPTBBPBBTBPP    +11
Day 2
PPBPBBPBBTPPPTPPPBTBTTBPPPPPPPPBBBBPPTBPBPBBPPPBBBTBTBPBBBBBBBPBPPBTPPBTPPBBPTPBTBBPTPBTBBPBBPPTTPPPBPBBBTPPBBBPPPPBBBBPPPPPPPBPPBTBPPTBPPPBPPPBPPBBPPPPBBTBPPPPPBP    +23
Different table.
PBPPPPBBPBBPBBPPPPPPPBPPBBPBPBTBPPBBPPPBTBBBBPBPBPBPPBBTBBTBBTBBPBBPPBTBBPPPBBBBBBBBBBPPBBPPBPTTPBBTBPPBPPBBTPPPTPBPPPBPPPBPPPBPPPBBBBBBBPTPBPPBBPTPPB     +18

[21 Aces]

Eight Iron, these shoes are 120-150 hands? Thanks.