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[Albalaha]

There is a fail safe way to play martingale. Wait for 15 losses one after another of an EC bet, say Player and then a 15 step martingale. You will most likely never lose in your life. For free to all.

Progression: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048-4096-8192-16384

Note:- Do not play marty ever upon Banker bet. Reason illustrated and explained here: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/19400640/Why-Banker-is-the-wrong-choice-for-progression-play#.VwfMnfl97IU

Chance of losing this way is once in one billion hands/spins. None seen 30 losses of any EC ever in any casino of the world. If you get to see them your are among the 7 wonders of the world. Further, if you get Ties it is a push and you rebet the same sum again.

[RouletteGhost]

We all know marty is a HG if table limits did not exist

The question is how long we have to wait for 15 misses

If we could figure that out.....then we all win

On baccarat i played marty after 4 misses. Well the day finally came where you know what.....

[Albalaha]

You can get the probability to happen by the risk you undertake to lose by martingale. A 15 step loss should come once after every 30k trials mathematically but you may get the same in your very first entry to the casino. Practically, you should win before you make your 10th bet of 512 units, this way. This is the only way to win with martingale. If you bet for a marty to help you win in first 15 attempts, you are bound to lose what you can never win back. Never bet Banker with Marty and I have explained the reason.

[RouletteGhost]

Enough master. Seriously. Enough

[tdx]

If you are betting $ 100 a hand at baccarat and you unfortunately get to the 15th bet, then that last bet is over $ 1,600,000
which I think is a little more than most members of this forum can afford.

[21 Aces]

Progression: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048-4096-8192-16384

Let's say 1 Unit is $100.  How many gamblers do you know that carry or have a line for north of 50 large on them?

[Albalaha]

Friends, I call this HG as it covers the absolute levels of an EC bet. As I told most people won't need to bet above 512 units ever or a bankroll of 1023 units. If you dream of covering billions of combinations with merely 100-200 units, come out of hallucination. IF you bet $100 bets, it is a huge bet but if you bet a cent or 10 cent as unit it is sitting just in your pocket.

                   I am not advocating to play this as your only strategy but this is the absolute HG, nevertheless. Take any database or generate even millions of trials and it will surpass all. http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/13069557/Virtual-limits-of-dispersionvariance#.VwhpLfl97IU

[21 Aces]

I have heard of people playing speed poker multiple tables on-line so if you are speaking about baccarat on-line with fast play then the approach would most likely be a lot different than a live casino or even on-line with live dealers.

[audiokinesis]

Hi, not Baccarat but EC, latest 18 numbers (with 13-30 mod). Just out of curiosity I tried this type of Marty, and my 5th(!) 30k result was: 29 loss in a row, so with serious stakes (1 EUR base bet and over), it will need the 16384 in the progression (with table ECs, but with inside numbers it is 294912  to survive) . Dangerous...Yes, Excel random NG, friday morning, the 5th attempt; so I did not have to wait until the end of my 'life'. Normal random behaviour.

[roversi13]

Waiting for 15 losses is a waste of time and also useless.
It's enough to play the opposite of the last 15 decisions.
Probabilities of W or L are the same

[Albalaha]

Hi, not Baccarat but EC, latest 18 numbers (with 13-30 mod). Just out of curiosity I tried this type of Marty, and my 5th(!) 30k result was: 29 loss in a row, so with serious stakes (1 EUR base bet and over), it will need the 16384 in the progression (with table ECs, but with inside numbers it is 294912  to survive) . Dangerous...Yes, Excel random NG, friday morning, the 5th attempt; so I did not have to wait until the end of my 'life'. Normal random behaviour.

29 losses in a row is not so easy.
It is possible but none has seen that in real life, I believe.

[Albalaha]

Waiting for 15 losses is a waste of time and also useless.
It's enough to play the opposite of the last 15 decisions.
Probabilities of W or L are the same

When we Talk of absolute terms, 30 losses in a row is next to impossible.

Opposite of the last 15 decisions are equally good.