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[Patience777]

Hello,

I've been reading many of your posts on this board and I decided to join.  I've been playing Baccarat for about 10 years and have witnessed thousands of hands.
I have lots of info that I can share with you guys as we are all in this together.
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Do casinos cheat? The more fives there are in the deck the better the chances are of a Banker win.
Is your casino taking fives out of the deck before the decks are shuffled so as to favor the Player side?
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Have any of you guys ever heard of a guy who won so much at Baccarat that he was shown the door and told not to come back?     
Not me I was just wondering...
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I believe Baccarat can be beaten but it takes a ton of patience.
Think of Baccarat as a boxing match.  You have Banker vs Player.
In my opinion the key to the game is keeping a very close eye on Players cards.
There will come a point when Player becomes very weak. And I mean really weak to the point where it can't beat nothing.
that's when you move in with a few powerful Banker bets.
And the reverse is true about Player becoming very strong.
You may play only 3 hands an hour.
But you need patience in order to beat the game.
Along with Gorilla Warfare "hit and run" gambling.

P

[Ted009]

Thank you.
One of my needed improvements is timing. It seems that I miss to catch the right timing. If I wait too long for the certain trigger, dominance or trend, I miss it. If I don't wager, the right decision comes. I am not a fan of wagering every hand. Yes, I also know the game is 100% random.
So the question is, when is the right timing?
Best regards,
Ted

[Patience777]

Thank you.
One of my needed improvements is timing. It seems that I miss to catch the right timing. If I wait too long for the certain trigger, dominance or trend, I miss it. If I don't wager, the right decision comes. I am not a fan of wagering every hand. Yes, I also know the game is 100% random.
So the question is, when is the right timing?
Best regards,
Ted

The right timing is for you to decide when Player is  staggering and Banker is crushing it. 

[alrelax]

Hello,

I've been reading many of your posts on this board and I decided to join.  I've been playing Baccarat for about 10 years and have witnessed thousands of hands.
I have lots of info that I can share with you guys as we are all in this together.
--------------------
Do casinos cheat? The more fives there are in the deck the better the chances are of a Banker win.
Is your casino taking fives out of the deck before the decks are shuffled so as to favor the Player side?
-------------------
Have any of you guys ever heard of a guy who won so much at Baccarat that he was shown the door and told not to come back?     
Not me I was just wondering...
------------------------------
I believe Baccarat can be beaten but it takes a ton of patience.
Think of Baccarat as a boxing match.  You have Banker vs Player.
In my opinion the key to the game is keeping a very close eye on Players cards.
There will come a point when Player becomes very weak. And I mean really weak to the point where it can't beat nothing.
that's when you move in with a few powerful Banker bets.
And the reverse is true about Player becoming very strong.
You may play only 3 hands an hour.
But you need patience in order to beat the game.
Along with Gorilla Warfare "hit and run" gambling.

P

As far as cheating; with the exceptions of some of the smaller Southern California card rooms that do offer high limit baccarat that have known organized crime ties and either are under investigation or have been closed or license suspended, the property has no benefit to remove cards from decks.  There are sever criminal as well as civil licensee penalties that would cost them multi millions if ever caught.  In the larger gaming states there is strict gaming laws and compliance as well as regulatory enforcement.  If you have no insight as to what goes in in a major casino and their regulatory rules and compliance, you really have no clue.  As far as outside the United States, I don't know but happen.  But to me baccarat can be won or in the player's favor no matter what the casino does.  IMO, the casino does not deviate from the established rules and regulations as set forth by each gaming jurisdiction where the property is located. (Many have come on this board and claimed casino cheating--usually gets pretty good response, however in the USA like I said, pretty well not an issue).

I have played pretty much since 1980 a year or two after A.C. opened and have been in most gaming jurisdictions of the USA and frequent the casino in the Midwest and Vegas and Southern California and occasionally back on the east coast.  I have seen lots of players win large sums in HL rooms as well as private saloons.  Never once, not one time--has a casino asked someone not to come back.  Exception being the cute Trang Gang maybe, LOL. I am not touching the Phil Ivy story, besides he is a celeb of the worst kind, arrogant, pungent and a negative influence. 

IMO a player needs more than patience to continually win money at this game. 

[alrelax]

The right timing is for you to decide when Player is  staggering and Banker is crushing it.

Many shoes will bounce back and forth with either B or P constantly having a 0-1-2 total point value to the other side 7-8-9.  Yes, there are many times this could be considered a trigger which could be the beginning of what I call a 'turning point' within a 'section' and as well---it very well might be the end of it as well.  Works both ways, to stick with it or play for the regression to the mean that might be upcoming. 

IMO and that of most experienced bac players, anyone that continually plays for 'so-so' and 'so and so' alone-you will not prevail as 'so and so' may never really come on that shoe. 

[yrag89]

just came back from a casino. Lost about rm1700. 1USD = rm4.5

Money management was really bad. Bet small. wins. Yet when I bet bigger it loses.

oh well haha

[Patience777]

just came back from a casino. Lost about rm1700. 1USD = rm4.5

Money management was really bad. Bet small. wins. Yet when I bet bigger it loses.

oh well haha

So when you're betting small and winning... right before the dealer deals add another chip to your bet.

[AsymBacGuy]

Strategies apart, the best way to win at baccarat is either secure a small winning and promptly getting away or surviving and surviving until a good run will take place by pushing the bets with casino's money (as we have to recover in some way the "surviving mood").

When things are going bad there's no need to increase the bets hoping for something; however when things seem to go in our favor no fear to push and push.

Of course the first approach will get more small winnings with low risk whereas the second approach might get substantial winnings at the price of an higher risk.

Anyway, your idea to push the situations where P side seems (seems) to be weak is well posed.

as. 

   



 

[Patience777]

IMO a player needs more than patience to continually win money at this game.

Yes... There are more attributes that people will need.  (1) A sixth sense  (2) Discipline  (3) A nice bank roll

I own several Baccarat books. A guy came out with a system to beat the game many years ago.
Its the best of the best.  The authors last name was Wilson? I forget... When I find it I will share it with you guys.

P

[brokerny]

Patience, if this system is the best of the best, I'm assuming you are using it to create a profit?

[Patience777]

Patience, if this system is the best of the best, I'm assuming you are using it to create a profit?

No not currently. I have used it and won with it before.
I ditched it about 4 years ago because I felt more comfortable at the time using a betting scheme that had gotten me 37 straight winning trips to the casino. 
I should say it is one of the best betting schemes out there that I've seen.
It is not a Labouchere but it is a distant cousin.
Of course every book that I have says that negative progressions won't work in the long run. (Oh ya? what's the long run?) 
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First you tell the betting scheme how much you want to win (say $200)
Then you tell it what amount per bet you will be using. (say $25)
Then the system tells you what to do after either a win or a loss.
I'm still looking thru my baccarat book library to try and find it.
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FYI - - My favorite Baccarat Book of all time is...
Winning at Baccarat the Gamblers Edge by Mike McGuire (1983)
If you guys can find it then get it.
What a great Book!

P

[alrelax]

I just lost interest, the sales speech is coming forsomething,37 straight.  Vic??

[Patience777]

I just lost interest, the sales speech is coming forsomething,37 straight.  Vic??

No sales speeches I promise.
Read some of John Gollehon's Books and he will tell you how it is done.
I learned from a Professional.!
I already told you how I play and you have forgotten already.
You hit and then you run!
You don't give the casino a chance to get their money back on that day.

P
 

[Patience777]

This is a true story...
I heard a Pit Boss say one day...
"If everybody quit and went home after they got ahead then we would be out of business."

And you guys know what... He Was Right!

Greedyville population 6

I have never been there. LOL

P 

[21 Aces]

I heard a Pit Boss say one day...
If everybody quit and went home after they got ahead then we would be out of business.
And you guys know what... He Was Right!

Greedyville population 6

I have never been there. LOL

P

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