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[split-monster]

I was reading some of the posts and the idea of looking out for singles caught my attention.

The idea of working in pairs seems like a good one to me if I am trying to manufacture results where there is an abundance of singles.

What do I mean by pairs?

There are 4 different pairs that can appear on a Baccarat table excluding the ties.

Banker-Banker
Banker-Player
Player-Player
Player-Banker

It is quite common for one of these pairs just to throw up the odd single appearance and then be absent for long intervals.  *see file below*

The Player-Banker pair (number 4) skipped for 17 times, hit, and then skipped 7 times before hitting again. That's just 2 hits in 26. This is not some freak occurence either. It happens with all the pairs where one of them can have some very long intervals before hitting once and then go missing again.

There is an easy way to take advantage of this. You just play the opposite of the pair that is missing and you are guaranteed a hit on the first or second attempt if the missing pair does not appear.

Banker-Banker missing.  Bet Player-Player
Banker-Player missing.  Bet Player-Banker
Player-Player missing.  Bet Banker-Banker
Player-Banker missing.  Bet Banker-Player

You could use a conservative 1-1 staking plan opting not to bet the second if you won the first. Why risk a unit when you have already won one. The second bet in this instance is only a recovery bet.

Or maybe a 1-2 where a loss followed by a win still nets a 1 unit profit.

The variance is in our favour with only one pair out of four that can beat us.

There is also the option of betting for parlays when a pair is coming out in very short intervals like the Player-Player towards the end of the file.

[marvin]

interesting , any testers here?[smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley]

[split-monster]

Tracking the even chance bets on roulette is another way to go if you want more action.

The Red Black is appearing at short enough intervals to jump on board with some parlay bets.

The Red Red and Odd Even are appearing at longer intervals. Bet against these with the opposite.

Tracking all three even chances is hard work. A tracker would be ideal if playing from home online.

[wannawin]

Tracking the even chance bets on roulette is another way to go if you want more action.

The Red Black is appearing at short enough intervals to jump on board with some parlay bets.

The Red Red and Odd Even are appearing at longer intervals. Bet against these with the opposite.

Tracking all three even chances is hard work. A tracker would be ideal if playing from home online.

Hi friend split-monster. Good to see that new people is entering the discussion. This is already much more than some do. I must admit that at first I thought you were a player betting two roulette numbers due to the split references. It will remain as a personal anecdote for me.

We can tell that for these basic systems there must have trackers made already​​. Perhaps some of the forum members already have this set? It is most probable. Hopefully some member can show soon with the tracker already made. Many thanks if someone shares. Greetings to you.

[split-monster]

Thank you for your encouragement wannawin.

I am thinking maybe a Labouchere would be the best type of betting strategy for these pairs.
What appeals is crossing out two numbers in the line for every win and just adding one on a loss. Especially when we effectively have three pairs working in our favour against one for the Casino.

I have read a lot of posts on the Labouchere from Rolex-Watch and how he often splits the lines rather than allowing the bets to get too large. I think this is a sound idea. Time for some experimenting.

[split-monster]

So far so good with my Labouchere testing. I have played a few dozen strings and the worst drawdown is only 6 units.

Give it time. I know, I know. But I like the Labouchere in tandem with the pairs. 7 losses and only 5 wins to be -6 at worst is ok. Just a small run of one of the three pairs in my favour against the one for the house and it clears itself.

[split-monster]

There was a great run going opposite of Red Black this morning.

It went as folows.

BB
BB
BR
BB
BR
RR
RR
RR
RR
RR
BB
BR
RR
BB
RR
BR
RR
BR
BB
BR
RR
RR
RR

23 successive pairs all opposing Red Black. Not even one interval of the Red Black in any of that lot.

If I just take the right hand side of those results, I get the following.

B
B
R
B*
R
R
R
R
R
R
B*
R
R
B*
R
R
R
R
B*
R
R
R
R

From the fourth result down, I have marked the intervals where a Black appears. There are only four singles from here. There are only 6/23 Blacks in that whole passage. Some food for thought there.

Now back to my Labouchere testing and running this on all three even chances for roulette. An idea may be to run separate Win/Loss tables for all three even chances and give them each their own Labouchere string. This would allow you to manipulate the strings as you see fit.
When one string is not performng so well, stop playing and donate some of the losses on to a string that is going well. It's just an idea for now. I will need to do some experimenting with it.
But suffice to say, there are plenty of options.

[Chef]

Congratulation split-monster.

You are on the right track to a long term winning system.

Spend more time tweaking the entry and exit signals using the 4 pairs.

You will discover a couple of sets with very low variance.

From here you can decide which mm to use. At this stage any mm used will produce positive results.

I can't say more. I have said all I need to say.

Best wishes and regards.

[split-monster]

Thank you Chef. It's good to know I am on the right track.

Here is a file covering all three even chances and I stopped it at this point because it kind of explains a few different things for anybody following.

The Even Odd has not shown for 17 pairs. That means the opposite Odd Even is a winner every time.

Looking at the second result of each of the 17 pairs.

E
E
O*
E
E
E
O*
E
E
E
O*
E
E
E
E
E
E

There are only three single intervals of the Odd noted by the asterix.

There was also the chance to do a bit of parlay betting here as well.

Looking at the Even Even over the last 9 pairs.

W,W,L,W,W,W,L,W,W.

I think just looking for the single L interval when betting for parlays is the best option. Then you are only ever risking two units at most to win four. A good qualifying trigger for this in my opinion would be looking for three W out of four before betting for a parlay.

Happy hunting.

[Nickmsi]

Hi all . . .

In my file of trackers I had one that tracked EC couplets which is what I think you are doing here.

If not, just disregard the attached tracker or give be a better explanation of what you are doing and perhaps I can make the adjustments.

Cheers

Nick

[split-monster]

Hello Nick. Your tracker is good. The only difference is that I am filling in the blank spaces adding up how long the missing intervals are.

For eample.

BB
RR 1
RR 2
RB 3
RB 4
RR 5
BB X
BR 1
BR 2
RR 3
RR 4
BB X

So the interval for BB is 5/4 so far. For a bet, I am looking for a pair with just single X intervals which are missing for long periods of time. This happens frequently tracking all four pairs using the three even chances.

Betting against BB would see me betting on RR for the next pair. This would guarantee me a win on the first or second result of a pair if the BB does not appear. It would either show RR, RB or BR. Any one of them would give me at least one win out of two. That's where the Labouchere idea comes in because even one win out of two will allow for progress in clearing the line.

I hope that explains it a bit better. Thank you.

The parlays are just an optional extra and not as reliable as the main bet in my opinion.

[split-monster]

Having a look back at my last file *labouchere3*, every pair came out by the time the 28,32 appeared apart from the Even Odd and the Low High.

So I can either bet Odd Even or High Low (or both) on the next two bets. I will win on either the first or second bet of the next pair as long as the Even Odd or the Low High don't appear.

I would have won either the first or second bet betting Odd Even on the next 12 pairs that came out. I would also have won either the first or second bet betting High Low on the next 8 pairs that came out.

Three of the Odd Even bets would have been double wins meaning I win on both the first and second result of the pair and two of the High Low bets would have been double wins as well.

[split-monster]

I was trying to think of an easier way to track things and think I have come up with it.

*see file attatched*

Take Red Red as an example.

It did not come out in the first two pairs.
Then it came out as the third pair (denoted as x) and also came out as the fourth pair (x again)
Then it did not appear on the next three pairs.


Odd Even.

It appeared as the first pair.
Then it did not appear on the next six pairs.

This is the pair I would be betting against and would bet Even Odd.
So that would be Even on the next spin and Odd on the spin after that.
I am a winner if any of Odd Odd, Even Even or Even Odd appear.
Even Odd appearing as the next pair would give me two wins.
Any one of the Odd Odd or Even Even and it's just the one win from two bets.

Tracking this way would be much easier on the Casino scorecards with one of those eraser pencils.

I will give it a try tomorrow at the Baccarat tables just using BB, BP, PP, PB.

The casino I am visiting has Punto2000. No tax apart from only paying out 1/2 on Banker 6.
I will use the Labouchere and see how I get on. Should be interesting.

[Chef]

Hello Split-monster,

My sincere congratulation to you again.

You are inching closer to a long term winning system.

Keep going my friend.

You deserved success.

Regards and Best wishes

[Chef]

Hello Split-monster,

Go easy on the MM now, work on the entry and exit signal instead.

A time will come when you realize that the variance gets lower and lower.

You will never find an edge over the casino, because there is none.

When the variance is consistently low, any MM used will yield long term profit.

Don't expect to win every session, this will never happen.

Put a stop loss at twice your profit target and you will have your personal grail.

You will always win more than you lose.

Regards