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Jumping the Shark

Started by soxfan, July 03, 2016, 09:23:56 PM

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soxfan

Well old Ellis has finally jumped the shark. There ain't enough Guinness in the world for this, hey hey.

You know, I don't believe in lifetime bankrolls.

Any instructor who demands that you must have a lifetime bankroll is either a scammer (extremely common on the internet) or hopelessly incompetent.

He thinks he knows how to play but to me, he's just another beginner.

Have you got 12 units?

Good because I can teach you how to win with SIX.

You have to know how to case the joint – how to find the easiest table to beat in the whole casino and then know how to beat it.

THAT is how we play – no heroics – good old common sense.

If the crowd is going one way – you'll find us going the other way.

Somehow the crowd always ends up at the toughest table in the casino.

What the hell is wrong with those guys?

We are there for ONE reason – to win.

Ignore the crowd! They lose every time.

I'll teach you the tricks of the trade, for instance:

How to legally play $5 units on a $10 table.

Or better yet, how to legally play $50 units on a $100 table.

Sure, I'll teach you how to squeeze 5 or 10 units out of a good table.

But I'll also teach you how to Exploit a really good table for 40 – 50 units a shoe.

And Finally I'll teach you Extreme Exploit where you can pull hundreds of units out of the right table with the right conditions.

The record for my students was Cherry – 425 units in ONE shoe.
http://www.casinoforum.club/Forum/topic/casino-is-the-biggest-loanshark/

21 Aces

That's rich because I was going to add this to the other thread.  When you see players deep around a table, IT'S FOR A REASON.

Is 10 Player and a few ties with the rest Bank in around 50 hands good enough for win?  How about 3 high payout bets hitting one way fast followed by 5 better high payout bets hitting in the next part of the first half of a shoe?

And don't get us wrong we have all seen the whole table one sided and high payout get smoked by a 1-0 or a Natural or whatever, but the pack gathers to capitalize.


Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

soxfan

I wish I was a shrewd enough cat to win well and regular with jus six, count em SIX unit! And, I really wish that I could capture over 400 units profits in one single shoe, hey hey!

21 Aces

Quote from: soxfan on July 04, 2016, 01:03:54 AM
I wish I was a shrewd enough cat to win well and regular with jus six, count em SIX unit! And, I really wish that I could capture over 400 units profits in one single shoe, hey hey!

My master work - '20 Minute Baccarat' is releasing soon.  Check it out.  Just hit the house, and boom 20 minutes and YOU'RE OUTTA THERE TO BANK.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

ADulay

Quote from: 21 Aces on July 04, 2016, 01:23:59 AM
My master work - '20 Minute Baccarat' is releasing soon.  Check it out.  Just hit the house, and boom 20 minutes and YOU'RE OUTTA THERE TO BANK.

Can we assume a full announcement when the publication is ready for prime time and available?

AD

21 Aces

Quote from: ADulay on July 04, 2016, 01:26:52 AM
Can we assume a full announcement when the publication is ready for prime time and available?

AD

Yes - haha.  In fact, you can get sooooo good, you just tell the valet to leave the motor running.  Seriously, I do think we could compile a short piece that would keep people out of trouble and well enough on their way.  Easy to outline and hard to follow on the risk management side.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

Babu

Quote from: 21 Aces on July 04, 2016, 01:32:35 AM
Yes - haha.  In fact, you can get sooooo good, you just tell the valet to leave the motor running.  Seriously, I do think we could compile a short piece that would keep people out of trouble and well enough on their way.  Easy to outline and hard to follow on the risk management side.

I'll put a wager that it's a bust.  Anyone else?

soxfan

What it is with cats writin books all over the joint, hey hey????

21 Aces

In general, let's say you blow through your first buy in, it is easy to burn up and increase bet size to win back quickly.  This can lead to blowing through your second buy in within minutes.

Instead, in one way or another take a step back, settle down, look for a busy table where the shoe looks good (lol) with players that you view are strong and participate.  Look to win back some piece wise with reasonable bets.  Even if 5 steps forward and 4 back as long as your making progress it's good.  Then you can increase as you have some win back to work with.  If you bet 5-15% high payout along you might hit one or more of those and accelerate the process.  This is much better than taking 1/3 or 1/2 OR ALL of a second buy in AND third buy in AND... to win back immediately.

The largest losses are from going on tilt.


Quote from: Babu on July 04, 2016, 01:45:11 AM
I'll put a wager that it's a bust.  Anyone else?

Book Chapter 1 - Don't Kill It

Buy in 1:  $500
Lose Buy in 1

Buy in 2:  $500
Next Bet: $200 - LOSE
Next Bet: $300 - LOSE

Buy in 3: $1,000
Next Bet: $500 - LOSE
Next Bet: $500 - WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Next Bet: $500 - LOSE
Next Bet: $500 - LOSE

VS.

Buy in 1:  $500
Lose Buy in 1

Take a break, pound a drink, have a smoke, check out fav staff and player eye candy,  listen to a few songs on 11 volume.
Find the table with some players that in your view are strong or the hot table(s) that are packed that will most likely have some players that in your view are strong....
Starting betting $50-$75 with high payout and FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT.



Quote from: soxfan on July 04, 2016, 02:28:05 AM
What it is with cats writin books all over the joint, hey hey????

How else you gonna get people to ask for autographs?

Back to the 6 units, WAYYYYY too much.  I need 3 units and 20 minutes.

I do see strong players who tend to stack win and roll hard on a long progression or even much more difficult hands.

UPDATE:  As mentioned elsewhere, it is important to differentiate between 'Buy-in' and 'I don't like carrying a large value of chips around'.   Some players really like to carry a large number and/ or a high value of chips vs. others.  Some players want to have the impact of changing in more chips as a break point in some way.  For some players it is none of any of that.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

HunchBacShrimp

Just another sales pitch from the charlatan Ellis. Heavy on the conspiracy theory this time.

Let's see........

30 years to develop the ONLY system with a MATHEMATICAL ADVANTAGE. Proof of which would bring more fame and fortune than peddling a tutoring service.
Your chance to discover it yourself ever in your entire lifetime? ZERO. Perhaps the only truthful statement, but narcissistic and insulting none the less.

A system that pre-identifies a shoe's least common event so you can tailor your bet selection to lose only to the that least common event. She it, that's the Holy Grail right there.

I'd like to know how someone can recognize the difference between The casino's orchestrations of shoe's that are High 1's and 2's, or 3+, just 1's, just 2's , or low 2's, opposite or repeat from RANDOM's natural production of those same events.

How do you tell the difference between random random, and the casino's version of random?

Not that it matters I guess, He can teach you how to beat random all the time. Well, virtually anyway.

HBS

PS Pure random is NOT a balance in the distribution of events.

soxfan

Old Ellis is just pain shameless, hey hey.

RolexWatch

I thought he retired to a mental home, maybe they provide internet connectivity.
approx 10 million over 4 decades is one helluva loss to bear, cobber.

soxfan

Zeus knows, I wish I was a shrewd enough cat to be able to capture 425 units profits in a single shoe workin with the 6 units bankroll, hey hey.

Gizmotron

Quote from: soxfan on July 08, 2016, 01:45:16 AM
Zeus knows, I wish I was a shrewd enough cat to be able to capture 425 units profits in a single shoe workin with the 6 units bankroll, hey hey.

Stop wishing and try "spank the casino" tactics. Instead of a "Brute Force Attack" technique why not try a hit them when randomness comes together like a harmonic convergence opportunity method. You can search for opportunities while you are chasing the progressive mindless progressions. It means extra work, but what the heck else do you have to do?
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

soxfan

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 08, 2016, 02:50:02 AM
Stop wishing and try "spank the casino" tactics. Instead of a "Brute Force Attack" technique why not try a hit them when randomness comes together like a harmonic convergence opportunity method. You can search for opportunities while you are chasing the progressive mindless progressions. It means extra work, but what the heck else do you have to do?

Are you any relations to the garnabby, hey hey?