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gr8player

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 19, 2014, 04:26:30 AM
Very Good GR8

Here is one of my shoes played a few hours earlier, only bets placed results shown;

play 1 -  P (win)
play 5 -  B (lose)
play 6 -  B (win)
play 7 -  B (win)
play 9 -  B (lose)
play 10 - B (win)
play 13 - P (win)
play 14 - P (win)
play 19 - B (win)
play 20 - P (win)
play 21 - B (lose)
play 22 - B (win)
play 25 - P (win)
play 28 - B (win)
play 29 - P (win)
play 32 - B (win)
play 33 - P (win)
play 37 - B (lose)
play 38 - B (win)
play 41 - P (win)
play 43 - B (win)
play 45 - P (win)
play 47 - P (win)
play 49 - P (win)
play 52 - P (win)
play 55 - B (lose)
play 57 - B (lose)

Think it ended 21W v's 7L

What does it prove?  How good I am?   Absolutely not, because the next shoe playing the same way was cr@p.

Atrocious typing this out, constant lock ups,  screen freezes, why bother reinventing the wheel when there is functional forum software (that works) available!!

in case your wondering, I played a mechanical 3 and 4 column bet selection using columns of 6. 



What's up, J?  Nice to hear from you.

Hey, that looks like a 75% strike rate to me.  After all these years, you're not goin' all "Spike" on me now, are ya'?

Good job, man.

Yeah, the next shoe was stuff...welcome to the wonderful world of Baccarat.

Oh, and yeah...what's up with the "freezes" and "starts and stops" whenever we post in this forum, J?  You're an ex-IT man, there's got to be a better way to format around here, no?

Take care.

Natural 9

Quote from: gr8player on November 18, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
In other words:  Caveat Emptor...."let the buyer beware"....


Yes. I was aware of this before I joined.  :nod:

I got my money and my free will to join iplayforaliving baccarat mentoring program.  :nod:

I got no regrets:nod:  I got more than my money's worth:thumbsup:  And most especially, I learned extensively why P/B triggers will not work.  :bye:


Natural 9  ;)
"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney

gr8player

Quote from: Natural 9 on November 19, 2014, 03:33:53 PM

And most especially, I learned extensively why P/B triggers will not work.

This is where you lose me, Natural 9.

I cannot fathom play without utilization of my triggers that put me onto certain trend plays in a timely fashion.  And correct timing of one's bet placements are, my friend, simply stated, the "name of this game".

Stay well.

Natural 9

Quote from: TheCaviarKid on November 18, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
Natural 9,

I hope you don't mind me asking, but would you be prepared to give me a demo of your betting decisions during a live shoe. I won't ask about how you arrive at your bets. That's your business.


I play in land-based casinos specifically Solaire and Resorts World. On weekdays I play at Solaire because that's where I usually meet my clients in my buy-built & sell business. On weekends, I play at Resorts World because I get comped there.  :nod:

I don't play online baccarat because a) my area of play doesn't have access to US & UK based online casinos and b) online baccarat games are fast (you're only given between 15-30 seconds to place your bets). The Charting that I was taught requires at least 45 seconds to place my bets. On land-based casinos, I can even extend the grace period to 60 seconds or more by employing delaying tactics over the baccarat tables.  :nod:

I tried playing live baccarat games using The Organic Baccarat Machines and The Rapid Fusion Baccarat Machines (you can even squeeze the cards here) but I could not catch up with the speed. These machines give you 30 seconds to place your bets.  :nod:

Whenever I play, I make sure I could get all the advantages I can over that baccarat tables. It's my money that I'm risking so I make sure I get my edge over the casinos. Playing on these baccarat machines puts my baccarat plays at a disadvantage.  :nod:

So, you want to have a glimpse of the Precision Baccarat of iplayforaliving then, go to Solaire or Resorts World and look for a good-looking guy with a white 8.5 x 11 unique scoresheet.  :nod:

Otherwise, you can join his baccarat mentoring program. I am telling you, as one of his members, the guy is very legit.  :thumbsup:  :nod:  :thumbsup:



Quote from: TheCaviarKid on November 18, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
I read your posts and you have given results from three shoes.

27 wins vs 6 losses.
22 wins vs 10 losses.
28 wins vs 15 losses.

That's an amazing 77 wins against 31 losses.


It took me 3 months to learn almost everything from iplayforaliving (I'm still learning The Box Approach of his Precision Baccarat).  :nod:

When he first posted his baccarat challenge on this forum, I was also skeptical on how his baccarat system can manage to win 7/7 in just 18 hands. He even gave me 3 more baccarat challenges before I join his baccarat mentoring program. This is to test how my existing baccarat system would fair. I would say at that time, I could not beat his challenge. This got me more curious to what he offers.  :nod:

Once I was already inside his mentoring program, I understood how to achieve these kind of shoe results. It's understandable that most of you were amazed by these shoe results because you do not have any idea what we are doing.  :nod:

While most of you are busy monitoring the triggers of PBPBP...or...PPBBPPBB...or...PBBPBBPBB...etc., I/we are busy learning different shifting of events happening in the shoe. While most of you are still thinking what is the best progression to use to beat baccarat, I/we could win using positive & negative progression and even flat-bet in the same baccarat shoe.

As you can see, I took a calculated risk in joining his baccarat mentoring program and now, I am reaping the benefits of such decision. It's my money. It's my own free will to join. So, I don't understand why all the fuss on these?

Members here who also joined iplayforaliving mentoring program knew how I arrived on those shoe results. Amazing? Yes! Because we were taught to attack every shoe in a very different way. 


Quote from: TheCaviarKid on November 18, 2014, 08:24:26 PMThere used to be a guy who claimed 72% on the even chance bets. Of course, he never showed anyone anything and it eventually all became a bit of a joke..
I think if you are claiming anywhere near these sort of results, then you should at least be prepared to give a live demo to back up your claims. I am sure it would be appreciated by many.

Thanks.


I read all the flaks that iplayforaliving received when he first posted some baccarat insights on this forum. He stopped posting. Five months after, somebody from this forum asked what happened to iplayforaliving. I responded.  :nod:

I joined last May. Studied his system for 3 months. Started to apply what I learned from him last September up to present time. The results I am getting with my baccarat plays are excellent!  :thumbsup: My experience inside his baccarat mentoring program was great and continuous to be great!   :applause:  And I continue to study his system and improve my baccarat games.   :nod:  That's what happened to me. And now, I am getting all the flaks. So, what's wrong with you people?  ???

I don't need to prove anything to you or to other members here. I was brought up to always outdo "myself" and not somebody else's. Right now, I'm very happy with what I'm accomplishing over that baccarat tables. I took the risk, I am reaping the rewards. It's just that simple.  :nod:

Like what iplayforaliving said to me, "People here are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."  :nod:


Natural 9  ;)
"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: gr8player on November 19, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Hey, that looks like a 75% strike rate to me.  After all these years, you're not goin' all "Spike" on me now, are ya'?
Nope not going spikey, one only has to read "evenbob's" posts on WoV to deduce he is too negative to achieved anything.  That shoe #4 was followed by #5 for a 39% strike rate (shoe #3 = 57%), I left the casino with profit, which is all that matters.

Quote from: gr8player on November 19, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Oh, and yeah...what's up with the "freezes" and "starts and stops" whenever we post in this forum, J?  You're an ex-IT man, there's got to be a better way to format around here, no?
Maybe is it something to do with the forum software trying to extract HTML5 canvas image from your PC?

TheCaviarKid

Quote from: Natural 9 on November 19, 2014, 03:55:39 PM

I play in land-based casinos specifically Solaire and Resorts World. On weekdays I play at Solaire because that's where I usually meet my clients in my buy-built & sell business. On weekends, I play at Resorts World because I get comped there.  :nod:

I don't play online baccarat because a) my area of play doesn't have access to US & UK based online casinos and b) online baccarat games are fast (you're only given between 15-30 seconds to place your bets). The Charting that I was taught requires at least 45 seconds to place my bets. On land-based casinos, I can even extend the grace period to 60 seconds or more by employing delaying tactics over the baccarat tables.  :nod:

I tried playing live baccarat games using The Organic Baccarat Machines and The Rapid Fusion Baccarat Machines (you can even squeeze the cards here) but I could not catch up with the speed. These machines give you 30 seconds to place your bets.  :nod:

Whenever I play, I make sure I could get all the advantages I can over that baccarat tables. It's my money that I'm risking so I make sure I get my edge over the casinos. Playing on these baccarat machines puts my baccarat plays at a disadvantage.  :nod:

So, you want to have a glimpse of the Precision Baccarat of iplayforaliving then, go to Solaire or Resorts World and look for a good-looking guy with a white 8.5 x 11 unique scoresheet.  :nod:

Otherwise, you can join his baccarat mentoring program. I am telling you, as one of his members, the guy is very legit.  :thumbsup:  :nod:  :thumbsup:




It took me 3 months to learn almost everything from iplayforaliving (I'm still learning The Box Approach of his Precision Baccarat).  :nod:

When he first posted his baccarat challenge on this forum, I was also skeptical on how his baccarat system can manage to win 7/7 in just 18 hands. He even gave me 3 more baccarat challenges before I join his baccarat mentoring program. This is to test how my existing baccarat system would fair. I would say at that time, I could not beat his challenge. This got me more curious to what he offers.  :nod:

Once I was already inside his mentoring program, I understood how to achieve these kind of shoe results. It's understandable that most of you were amazed by these shoe results because you do not have any idea what we are doing.  :nod:

While most of you are busy monitoring the triggers of PBPBP...or...PPBBPPBB...or...PBBPBBPBB...etc., I/we are busy learning different shifting of events happening in the shoe. While most of you are still thinking what is the best progression to use to beat baccarat, I/we could win using positive & negative progression and even flat-bet in the same baccarat shoe.

As you can see, I took a calculated risk in joining his baccarat mentoring program and now, I am reaping the benefits of such decision. It's my money. It's my own free will to join. So, I don't understand why all the fuss on these?

Members here who also joined iplayforaliving mentoring program knew how I arrived on those shoe results. Amazing? Yes! Because we were taught to attack every shoe in a very different way. 



I read all the flaks that iplayforaliving received when he first posted some baccarat insights on this forum. He stopped posting. Five months after, somebody from this forum asked what happened to iplayforaliving. I responded.  :nod:

I joined last May. Studied his system for 3 months. Started to apply what I learned from him last September up to present time. The results I am getting with my baccarat plays are excellent!  :thumbsup: My experience inside his baccarat mentoring program was great and continuous to be great!   :applause:  And I continue to study his system and improve my baccarat games.   :nod:  That's what happened to me. And now, I am getting all the flaks. So, what's wrong with you people?  ???

I don't need to prove anything to you or to other members here. I was brought up to always outdo "myself" and not somebody else's. Right now, I'm very happy with what I'm accomplishing over that baccarat tables. I took the risk, I am reaping the rewards. It's just that simple.  :nod:

Like what iplayforaliving said to me, "People here are not yet ready for this baccarat breakthrough."  :nod:


Natural 9  ;)

I will take that as a NO then. [smiley]aes/beer.png[/smiley]

"Sometimes it is the people we imagine nothing of, who do the things we can not imagine."

WorldBaccaratKing

Quote from: TheCaviarKid on November 19, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
I will take that as a NO then. [smiley]aes/beer.png[/smiley]

Why on gods green earth did you expect anything different? He is ALVIN!!! Why is that so hard to see? Seriously, 500 bucks and you think you have the holy grail? lol, if it was 5000, MAYBE, it could make sense, but 500?????????/ Come on man....................

He doesn't offer proof BECAUSE THERE IS NOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You can spin the scorecard upside down, flip quarters, pull pieces of paper out of your pocket, bet based on who walks by, WHATEVER. it's a RANDOM GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

He says certain things happening in a shoe LOLLLL I almost fell out of the chair on this one...

500 and its MAGICAL and you will WIN SO MUCH YOU NEED SUITCASES TO HOLD YOUR CHIPS!!!!! BWAAAHHAHAHAH

thank you all for the laugh today, been a rough week!!!! WBAHAHAHHAHAH (still laughing even as I am about to hit post)

ADulay

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on November 19, 2014, 07:13:50 PM
Why on gods green earth did you expect anything different? He is ALVIN!!! Why is that so hard to see? Seriously, 500 bucks and you think you have the holy grail? lol, if it was 5000, MAYBE, it could make sense, but 500?????????/ Come on man....................

He doesn't offer proof BECAUSE THERE IS NOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You can spin the scorecard upside down, flip quarters, pull pieces of paper out of your pocket, bet based on who walks by, WHATEVER. it's a RANDOM GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

He says certain things happening in a shoe LOLLLL I almost fell out of the chair on this one...

500 and its MAGICAL and you will WIN SO MUCH YOU NEED SUITCASES TO HOLD YOUR CHIPS!!!!! BWAAAHHAHAHAH

thank you all for the laugh today, been a rough week!!!! WBAHAHAHHAHAH (still laughing even as I am about to hit post)

OK, we get it.  You don't believe that he paid the $500 and is winning.

Deal with it.

You can block his posts if they bother you but until he starts selling and stalking users here, he can pretty much say what he wants about whatever system he plays.

All system plays have merit, somewhere in them.  I've got lots of them!! ( :))

Anyway, try to curb your "enthusiasm" about jumping on the other players here.

If you're having problems with your own game, feel free to post up your recently played shoes and perhaps some of the players here will take a look and make constructive comments on your play.

You do play, right?

AD

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: ADulay on November 20, 2014, 03:37:24 AM
You can block his posts if they bother you but until he start selling and stalking users here, he can pretty much say what he wants about whatever system he plays.

Huh? The author was selling / soliciting here and was given free reign. 

Now he was gone (if he hasn't retuned already) the shills are doing his bidding.

NathanDetroit

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on November 20, 2014, 02:06:33 PM
Huh? The author was selling / soliciting here and was given free reign. 

Now he was gone (if he hasn't retuned already) the shills are doing his bidding.



It is what it is.... a con game  ripe for the bunko squad  .

Ezscouter

Hey guys I haven't been playing baccarat for very long but I just wanted to share a method that I've been using for about 28 weeks now. I started out with a $7500 bank roll. And now I am at a $92000 profit. I only bring about 900-1200 a day. And if I had 3 losses in a row or down $900 I would go home. Or if I was up at least 500-600 I would go home. So here is the method. And I would very much appreciate everyone, if anyone, can tell me the flaws in this method so I can modify it and make it better or safer. So here it is ! 


ALWAYS let at least 20 hands deal out before you make a bet.
This is what you're looking for.

B PP B PP B      here bet that it will be P

B PPP B PPP B    Same with here .

Or

BB PPP BB PPP B.   Bet that it will be a B

NOTICE: IF YOU LOSE A HAND AND THAT PATTERN BREAKS, LEAVE THE TABLE AND LOOK FOR ANOTHER TABLE. AND IF YOU WON KEEP BETTING THAT THE PATTERN WILL KEEP GOING.

Always bet $300 NEVER INCREASE OR DECREASE.

important: when these things occur, GO HOME !!!
1. If you are down $900
2. If you lose 3 times in a row. Even if you are up like $3000 still go home !

DO NOT BE GREEDY AND AVOID THESE RULES. there's ALWAYS TOMORROW !!!

I've been doing only 7 months or so and it has very well worked out for me.


I've calculated my losses and wins every week and to my surprise, I win about 72.52% of the time. All I did was added up my wins and losses and then wins / wins + losses. Occasionally I'll have 3 or 4 bad days in a row ( so about $900 lost a day ). But I've notice my amount won will win all that back within 3 or 4 days. My average win is around 1100. Some days I'll go home with $0 some days I'll go home and lost $900. But some days I'll go home with $300 or even $5000. My highest ever so far was $9200 ( after commission and tipping the dealers ).

The most important key for this method to work is patience and accepting that you've lost that day. And always go with a friend when you can. It's a lot easier to contain yourself when you have a buddy. Although those patterns seems very strict and kind of hard to come by ( sometimes I'll wait an hour before I even see that pattern come ) it's VERY IMPORTANT that you don't bet lazily. And what do I mean by that ? Well....

Say you saw something like this
B PP BB PPP B DO NOT BET HERE.
  Since there have been a single B and a BB you don't know that the next one will be a single or double. So DO NOT BET HERE. Even if a second B shows up there, LEAVE THAT TABLE.

or if it's like

B PP B P B P  ALSO DO NOT BET HERE. this doesn't follow any of the patterns up there.

So the key for my so far success is PATIENCE and ACCEPTANCE.

please feel free to use this method, and if you do, please tell me how it went. I suggest u start out with a small goal. Like say to win 100-200 a day bring about... 500-600$ ? And set the same limits when you're down $300 go home or if you've lost 3 times in a row.


I hope this helped everyone !!
I hope you guys will help me out too with tips and all that.v


Oh something else I should mention

Bring a gaming device... I don't care what it is, an iPad, a smart phone, your son's Nintendo ds, something to entertain you while you wait because sometimes it could be an hour before you see a good table. Also bring a friend to help you bet when multiple tables are good and to help you look at more tables at once.


So to summarize all that up for you guys:

1. Bet only when you see the appropriate patterns listed above.
2. Know when to call it a day. ( reasons listed above )
3. Bring a way to make waiting fun.
4. DO NOT BE GREEDY AND TRY TO WIN BACK YOUR LOSSES !

And a little tip: set your alarm on your smart phone to ring every 45 - 60 minutes. This'll remind you to recount all your earning and see if you should go home or not. If you are up a win or 2 ( 300-600 ) and it's been a back and forth game, it's best to go home with your 300-600$.

Thanks a lot of listening guys. Please give me any replies or feedbacks I really appreciate it.




esoito

Welcome, Ezscouter!  :thumbsup:

Hope your method holds up for you.  But all too often something starts off well and then turns round and bites -- hard.

Still, if you stick to your rules you won't bleed too much when it (inevitably) happens!  ;)

mahatma

Quote from: ADulay on October 30, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
Really?  The guy posts up a shoe that he showed a profit on that's the best comment you can come up with?

And people wonder why very few post up live shoes anymore.

Here Mr ADulay,

This is my losing shoe, I won 12 and lost 17 which all came in a bunch, so how should I have played this, what did I do wrong?

P
B
PPP
B
P
BB
P
BBBBB
P
B
P
BBB
P
B
PPPP
BBBB
P
BBB
PP
BBBB
P
B
PP
BBB
PPP

While I am at it, this was bad for me as well

P
BBBB
PPPP
BB
P
B
P
BBB
PP
B
P
BBB
P
B
P
B
PP
BBB
PP
B
PP
BBBBB
PP
BBBBB
P
BB
P
BBB
PP
B
PPPPP
BBB
PPP

comments for me to explore, apprecaited
Dulay is a stooge for BTC

AsymBacGuy

Hi mahatma.

I'd have easily won on both shoes, as both shoes were falling in what I call "average shoe" category.

as

Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

mahatma

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on December 23, 2014, 11:00:30 PM
Hi mahatma.

I'd have easily won on both shoes, as both shoes were falling in what I call "average shoe" category.

as
They were losing shoes for me,   what you post doesn't help me at all, why not tell me how you would have played these shoes, what is the point of your reply?
Dulay is a stooge for BTC