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[Jimske]

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[Natural 9]

And people wonder why very few post up live shoes anymore.

Because the thread/post will turn into a circus. 

Send in the clowns! 


Natural 9  [smiley]aes/lol.png[/smiley]

[Rinzler]

I always poke fun at someone being in a jungle, etc.

That's not going to fly here.

[alrelax]

I know your probably don't drink beer all the time but when you do I bet it's Dos Equis, huh?

Corona and Rolling Rock. 

[Matt]

Any profit over a losing shoe/ session is always a good thing, especially if you don't have to go too deep into a progression 👌
What kind of bet selection and money management were you using?

[Matt]

I just played through the shoe with one of my usual money managements and ended shoe +3 units with biggest drawdown of -9 and biggest bet 4 units which is in the higher end of my compfort zone.
Still not too bad for a shitty shoe

[nOrMy2o0o]

I played it too.

1 = Red, 2=Black
Follow the Last, +1 on a Loose, -1 on a Win, Reset at new high or equal last high.
Ended +12
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[Natural 9]

Here is one I played the other day.  1 = P and 2 = B.  You'll have to convert it yourself if interested.  I lost 27 hands out of 45 placed bets for a 40% WR.  But I still managed to win $55.00.  Which is great because that's a days pay for me normally.[smiley]aes/cool.png[/smiley]

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Hi Jimske.

Your baccarat strategy is weak on this type of shoe combinations.   

There's nothing wrong with this.     All baccarat systems or strategies will have its weakness/es as well as strengths.   

Achieving only 40% win-rate and still profiting $55 was already a success. As what they say, "A win is still a win no matter what."   

I too will take any win against casinos no matter how much. But of course, I have my "own" profit goal per game, per day when I play.   

In my playing area where job is scarce and unemployment is high, players settle for $25-$50 a day.    Enough for them to put food on the table and send their children to school.     I see these people every time I play. Same faces, same routine but different outcomes. Of course, this is understandable because the only strategy they know is either to trend or to anti-trend.     The game is more than trending or anti-trending. 

If I will encounter this type of shoe, I can profit up to +35 units using WiLAP (+12 units using flat-bet) and of course, using what iplayforaliving has trained me to do.      

I got 32 placed bets on this shoe, winning 22 bets, losing 10 bets for a win-rate of 69% (68.75%).     

Below were my bet selections if I will encounter this shoe someday.

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Play 6 - Banker (Loss)
Play 8 - Banker (Won)
Play 9 - Player (Won)
Play 10 - Player (Won)
Play 11 - Player (Won)
Play 12 - Banker (Loss)
Play 13 - Player (Loss)
Play 16 - Banker (Won)
Play 17 - Player (Loss)
Play 20 - Banker (Won)
Play 21 - Banker (Loss)
Play 22 - Banker (Won)
Play 23 - Player (Won)
Play 24 - Banker (Won)
Play 25 - Player (Won)
Play 26 - Banker (Loss)
Play 27 - Player (Won)
Play 29 - Banker (Loss)
Play 33 - Banker (Won)
Play 35 - Banker (Won)
Play 36 - Player (Won)
Play 37 - Banker (Won)
Play 38 - Player (Won)
Play 39 - Banker (Won)
Play 43 - Player (Loss)
Play 44 - Player (Won)
Play 46 - Player (Won)
Play 47 - Player (Won)
Play 48 - Player (Loss)
Play 49 - Player (Won)
Play 50 - Player (Won)
Play 51 - Player (Loss)

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This shoe is winnable for "my" baccarat system. I only encountered back-to-back losses only once at Plays 12-13. After that, it's all smooth for my bet selections. 

What do we gain from here? Different baccarat systems, therefore...different strengths & weaknesses. Therefore...different profits. The bottomline --- profit. 




Natural 9   

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Thanks N9.  Can't argue with a win like that.  What is WiLAP?  I always like to compare flat bet because progressions can be funny.  Any time we want to increase profit we also increase risk.  OTH when we reduce risk we reduce profit.  :-)  Pick your poison.

Winning shoes are easy - no point in posting them!  Here's another shoe that I lost 4 units on flat bet and took an 11 unit beating on with a 2 high prog.  Sorry again, you got to convert to your style.  1 = P and 2 = B.  I started out okay but then it fell apart and came back a bit but then fell apart again!

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J

Jim, I met you in foxwoods. Do you really think this guy with a 500 dollar system makes money like he claims? Come on, since foxwoods you haven't gone weak have you? Hows Tom been?

[WorldBaccaratKing]

Really?  You have me at a disadvantage.  I don't know who you are,  I rarely play FXWD.  I know 3 guys named Tom - actually 4.  If you want to get personal I suggest you PM me.

As far as Natural 9 system?  How would I know?  I just thought it would be fun to do a shoe that I struggled with.

J

TOMLA

[Natural 9]

Thanks N9.  Can't argue with a win like that.  What is WiLAP?  I always like to compare flat bet because progressions can be funny.  Any time we want to increase profit we also increase risk.  OTH when we reduce risk we reduce profit.  :-)  Pick your poison.

I agree with you here, Jimske. Although we cannot eliminate risk on this game, we could somehow manage the risk involved.

Winning shoes are easy - no point in posting them!  Here's another shoe that I lost 4 units on flat bet and took an 11 unit beating on with a 2 high prog.  Sorry again, you got to convert to your style.  1 = P and 2 = B.  I started out okay but then it fell apart and came back a bit but then fell apart again!

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J

Using the Precision Baccarat that I learned from iplayforaliving, I could profit up to +43 units using WiLAP (+13 units using flat-bet) on your losing shoe.     

I got 43 placed bets on this shoe, winning 28 bets, losing 15 bets for a win-rate of 65% (65.12%). This shoe exhibited 25 different shifting of events.     

WiLAP is short for Win-Loss Adjusting Progression. It utilizes both positive and negative progression depending on the win-loss variance I encounter during my bac plays.

Below were my bet selections if I will encounter this shoe someday.

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Play 6 - Banker (Loss)
Play 7 - Player (Loss)
Play 8 - Player (Loss)
Play 9 - Player (Loss)
Play 10 - Banker (Won)
Play 12 - Player (Won)
Play 14 - Player (Won)
Play 16 - Banker (Won)
Play 18 - Banker (Won)
Play 20 - Player (Loss)
Play 21 - Player (Won)
Play 22 - Banker (Loss)
Play 24 - Player (Won)
Play 25 - Player (Won)
Play 26 - Player (Lost)
Play 27 - Banker (Won)
Play 28 - Banker (Loss)
Play 30 - Player (Loss)
Play 31 - Player (Won)
Play 32 - Player (Won)
Play 33 - Player (Won)
Play 34 - Banker (Won)
Play 35 - Banker (Won)
Play 36 - Player (Won)
Play 38 - Banker (Won)
Play 39 - Player (Won)
Play 40 - Player (Loss)
Play 41 - Player (Won)
Play 42 - Banker (Won)
Play 43 - Player (Won)
Play 44 - Banker (Loss)
Play 45 - Player (Won)
Play 46 - Banker (Won)
Play 47 - Banker (Loss)
Play 49 - Player (Won)
Play 50 - Banker (Loss)
Play 51 - Player (Loss)
Play 52 - Banker (Won)
Play 54 - Player (Won)
Play 56 - Banker (Won)
Play 58 - Banker (Won)
Play 59 - Banker (Loss)
Play 60 - Player (Won)

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This shoe will not pose a threat on my bac plays. 



Natural 9   

[TheCaviarKid]

Here is rule 7 that all new members should take the time to read!

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It gets a bit repetitive when members keep bragging in every post.

This is against the spirit of the forum.

[TheCaviarKid]

Natural 9,

I hope you don't mind me asking, but would you be prepared to give me a demo of your betting decisions during a live shoe. I won't ask about how you arrive at your bets. That's your business.

I read your posts and you have given results from three shoes.

27 wins vs 6 losses.
22 wins vs 10 losses.
28 wins vs 15 losses.

That's an amazing 77 wins against 31 losses.

There used to be a guy who claimed 72% on the even chance bets. Of course, he never showed anyone anything and it eventually all became a bit of a joke..
I think if you are claiming anywhere near these sort of results, then you should at least be prepared to give a live demo to back up your claims. I am sure it would be appreciated by many.

Thanks.

[gr8player]

Natural 9,

I hope you don't mind me asking, but would you be prepared to give me a demo of your betting decisions during a live shoe. I won't ask about how you arrive at your bets. That's your business.

I read your posts and you have given results from three shoes.

27 wins vs 6 losses.
22 wins vs 10 losses.
28 wins vs 15 losses.

That's an amazing 77 wins against 31 losses.

Hello, TheCaviarKid.  You may recall that I, too, felt skeptical upon reading of these amazing results. 

And, yet, they continue unfettered.

Yes, truly amazing....ah, the power of the internet.  One needs only learn how to type.

In other words:  Caveat Emptor...."let the buyer beware"....

[Rolex-Watch]

Yes, truly amazing....ah, the power of the internet.  One needs only learn how to type.

Very Good GR8

Here is one of my shoes played a few hours earlier, only bets placed results shown;

play 1 -  P (win)
play 5 -  B (lose)
play 6 -  B (win)
play 7 -  B (win)
play 9 -  B (lose)
play 10 - B (win)
play 13 - P (win)
play 14 - P (win)
play 19 - B (win)
play 20 - P (win)
play 21 - B (lose)
play 22 - B (win)
play 25 - P (win)
play 28 - B (win)
play 29 - P (win)
play 32 - B (win)
play 33 - P (win)
play 37 - B (lose)
play 38 - B (win)
play 41 - P (win)
play 43 - B (win)
play 45 - P (win)
play 47 - P (win)
play 49 - P (win)
play 52 - P (win)
play 55 - B (lose)
play 57 - B (lose)

Think it ended 21W v's 7L

What does it prove?  How good I am?   Absolutely not, because the next shoe playing the same way was cr@p.

Atrocious typing this out, constant lock ups,  screen freezes, why bother reinventing the wheel when there is functional forum software (that works) available!!

in case your wondering, I played a mechanical 3 and 4 column bet selection using columns of 6.