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Started by alrelax, July 09, 2017, 03:55:47 PM

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alrelax

I purposely did not want to write something as I have in the past.  This is right to the point, correct, 100% non-waiverable-free and applies the same exact way you need blood to survive, these words are correct about gambling systems that entail learning a super secret-scheduled preconceived bet placement method.  Period. Again, Period.

QUOTE:

"The Truth about Betting Systems

Not only do betting systems fail to beat casino games with a house advantage, they can't even dent it. Roulette balls and dice simply have no memory. Every spin in roulette and every toss in craps is independent of all past events. In the short run you can fool yourself into thinking a betting system works, by risking a lot to win a little. However, in the long run no betting system can withstand the test of time. The longer you play, the ratio of money lost to money bet will get closer to the expectation for that game.

In the many years that run this site I have received thousands of e-mails from believers in betting systems. Their faith surpasses religious levels. However, in all things, the more ridiculous a belief is the more tenaciously it tends to be held. Gamblers have been looking for a betting system that works for hundreds of years, and yet the casinos are still standing."



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And this is hard to do:  "Their faith surpasses religious levels."  I have spent time in the deep south/Mississippi and Alabama and buddy, those words are absolute, excuse the pun, 'gospel'. 


Now, as far as--triggers, events that reoccur with redundancy and will be produced by the shoe, and all the other numerous happenings in the game of baccarat, there are possibilities for estimations of calculated risk without the certainty of success, such as what the 'expert authors' as well as the self-proclaimed multi millionaires that wrote these books and systems that are awfully biased and slanted because they tilt and manipulate mathematical statistics to allow their systems to win all or the majority of the times--and in reality do not and will not apply when you sit down at the baccarat table in an actual live casino that has the real game where you play with your real money. 

Again, I ask the question.  "Why don't all those self proclaimed experts and authors have their systems independently audited and certified by a third party auditing firm that is in the business of doing such things?  Why?  Oh, let me clear my throat, WHY?
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21 Aces

The Dark Wizard assumes A + B = C is the approach to baccarat or other games that everyone is using when reality is far from it.  Maybe he should look up discretionary along with nth degree of other dynamics that are involved in successful play, but he doesn't play so he can't even begin to understand such concepts.
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alrelax

Quote from: 21 Aces on July 09, 2017, 04:49:13 PM
The Dark Wizard assumes A + B = C is the approach to baccarat or other games that everyone is using when reality is far from it.  Maybe he should look up discretionary along with nth degree of other dynamics that are involved in successful play, but he doesn't play so he can't even begin to understand such concepts.

You are taking it to the extreme and i get the gist you are a systems believer.  However, systems is systems, which i have defined as, 'a preconceived and scheduled bet placement method' that is applied no matter what.  That will not work, but however, I like and agree with the following that The Magician wrote:

"Nothing I create through the continuous efforts of the Team I belong to is for sale. If you possess something that makes a lot of money, why sell it?  Only scammers, too lazy to implement creative and intellectual effort are trying to sell something that promises numerical prescience and success, where there, in fact, is none to be found. The true inventors and players devote time to their passion because of an endless curiosity and of course the rewards found in such a field.

As more sophisticated algorithms based on frequency and number harmonics are developed and as the design and numerical prescience become more accurate, new platforms are created rewarding their users with a view over the wheel, few gamblers in the world can dream of.

So, yes, there are ways to beat the roulette and of course fully enjoy this King of Physical Random Number Generation so many fail to win on, consistently."

Amen, I rest my case.  Go buy a book for $10.00 or $18.99 and read it, apply it and do it with a twist or a turn of your intelligence and special magical powers.  Call me when you own the casino, I will bend and bow to you and lick the bottom of your shoes in public.
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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21 Aces

Maybe the Dark Wizard should come up with the estimate of how much notional value on options traded in the financial markets based on the Black-Scholes Theory of options pricing as a starter and then he will have all of the answers he needs for himself.  Here is a little hint for him to get started on his assignment and this is just the US for 2017:

OCC Daily Volume Statistics — July 2017
https://www.theocc.com/webapps/daily-volume-statistics


The notion that anyone selling anything offers no value is incredibly delusional.  Mercedes-Benz sells automobiles. 

Oh stuff!!! Doyle Brunson has a poker educational program.  Why would a champion poker player offer any information on the game where he directly competes with other players? LOSER!!!!

http://www.doylebrunson.com/
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

alrelax

Quote from: 21 Aces on July 09, 2017, 05:11:21 PM
Maybe the Dark Wizard should come up with the estimate of how much notional value on options traded in the financial markets based on the Black-Scholes Theory of options pricing as a starter and then he will have all of the answers he needs for himself.

The notion that anyone selling anything offers no value is incredibly delusional.  Mercedes-Benz sells automobiles.

Cool, we can talk about it over on Bell Gardens Blvd at anyone of many nail shops with the Koreans and Vietnamese in the front doing nails while the illegal sports betting and money loan sharking is going on in the rear with the local mama-sans.  Not a problem at all.  Every mix eating kim-chee and PHO? 
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

21 Aces

Haven't mixed Korean and Vietnamese in one meal.  A+ B = C is not a discretionary synthesis of calling the best shot based on what a baccarat shoe is showing.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

alrelax

I will give it to you, you win, congrats!  :cheer:
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

21 Aces

Quote from: alrelax on July 09, 2017, 05:28:45 PM
I will give it to you, you win, congrats!  :cheer:

Well the problem is that we can speak of system, approach, style, method, strategy, etc. and then things get categorized because people are using their own understanding of terms.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan

alrelax

There is no need to discuss, you win.  You are correct.  This is not to discuss.  You already won.
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 36,311 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

21 Aces

Quote from: alrelax on July 09, 2017, 05:43:36 PM
There is no need to discuss, you win.  You are correct.  This is not to discuss.  You already won.

Well I think my approach to play is in short just a less effective variation of how you play.  But I have major difficulties affecting my play for a long time which to some 'experts' out there have no bearing on performance.

One simple example would be.... let's call it Play Style X

Play Style X
Bank Roll $10,000  DOESN'T MATTER
Unit Size $100  DOESN'T MATTER
Mechanic and specifics of Play Style X?  DOESN'T MATTER
What does matter?
- Stop Point:  Some amount of -$1,000 (DOESN'T MATTER) or better depending on variance, gut feel, lucky/ unlucky, cool vibe/ not cool vibe or whatever reason.
- Target for Profit:  Some amount of $0 or better depending on variance, gut feel, lucky/ unlucky, cool vibe/ not cool vibe or whatever reason.


When the Dark Wizard can codify and program how people determine the following then he is on his way, but he will never be able to do it:
variance, gut feel, lucky/ unlucky, cool vibe/ not cool vibe or whatever reason.


This is why you will have a table full of experienced players with players several deep capitalize the best they can on a very strong formation or series of formations.  Then once things chop out, you might see zero players there.  Anyone who plays sees this or things just like this all of the time.
Life is something you dominate if you're any good. - Tom Buchanan