My take on "systems"

soxfan · March 06, 2015, 08:37:51 PM

The best "system" I ever came across was Star System. In fact, I know a cat who has used it for years at the dice table, and has made a very good income with it, hey hey.

Whiskeypete · March 06, 2015, 09:36:34 PM

Wicked awesome but can you use it in baccarat

horus · March 06, 2015, 09:44:24 PM

Soxfan,

There is a Chapter in Craig Greiner's classic ''The Future Gambler'' titled 'Symmetrical Patterns from Asymmetrical Relationships' for the dice table.

Craps was this guys main game and this was a pretty detailed way to win. There is only one full sized craps table from what I am aware of in my neck of the woods down in London.

I am only mentioning it because the title of the chapter reminds me of our own AsymBacGuy.

I will get around to studying it and post it up. I like the Star Myself. It can be a forgiving progression at times.

soxfan · March 06, 2015, 11:23:45 PM

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 06, 2015, 09:36:34 PM
Wicked awesome but can you use it in baccarat

Of course, you can use Star at the baccarats, though I think it is better suited to the dice. But ya gotta have the balls, bankroll, and access to a joint that allows a fat spred between min/max bets so you can play the thing, as written, hey hey.

soxfan · March 06, 2015, 11:28:34 PM

Quote from: horus on March 06, 2015, 09:44:24 PM
Soxfan,

There is a Chapter in Craig Greiner's classic ''The Future Gambler'' titled 'Symmetrical Patterns from Asymmetrical Relationships' for the dice table.

Craps was this guys main game and this was a pretty detailed way to win. There is only one full sized craps table from what I am aware of in my neck of the woods down in London.

I am only mentioning it because the title of the chapter reminds me of our own AsymBacGuy.

I will get around to studying it and post it up. I like the Star Myself. It can be a forgiving progression at times.

I've enevr read that book, but I've always felt the dice game was more likely to stay in balance than the baccarats. At dice, the 7's act as a check on both long pass, and don't pass streak, so much better especially for the anti-streak style, hey hey.

WorldBaccaratKing · March 07, 2015, 02:03:36 AM

Here is my thoughts. If Ellis could make so much money, why on earth would he sell it for 500 or 1200? The only reason would be he is terminally ill or he wants to save every human who is poor and show them the holy grail.

There is no other plausible explanation. He is a system seller like the other 100000 out there. Nothing wrong with that at all. But, MDB, NOR (which I have) works sometimes, and MOST of the time, IT doesn't.

This 2HI new system, well, I would LOVE to EAT my own WORDS, I REALLY WOULD! But, I 'think', it will be like the others. Again, Ellis could probably scrap together 10k and really parlay that into some serious coin, much more coin than he is going to make selling it, that's a guarantee.

As far as this OZ guy, again, I like proof. I want to see proof. alrelax seems like a nice guy, says he bets x amount and wins 25k like no biggy, and maybe he does. But, I want proof. Show me some 25k chips, 5k chips, etc. If you can take 100000 pics of this and that and food and sharks, simple enough to snap a pic or a chip, NO?

So, I don't believe OZ bets 5k units. When he shoes me 100k in chips or close to it, maybe I will.

This is the internet, you can say you are king kong and have powers and can fly. Super, just show me and then I will believe you. You can say you're 500 years old and are a vampire! WICKED! Please show me that!!!! Otherwise, its all stuff, rigmarole. My new boots are getting quite the workout this past week....

horus · March 07, 2015, 10:04:00 AM

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on March 07, 2015, 02:03:36 AM
My new boots are getting quite the workout this past week....

Can I recommend a nice pair of hip waders. [smiley]aes/tongue.png[/smiley]

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Whiskeypete · March 07, 2015, 05:29:09 PM

Well I agree....anything can be said on the Internet. That's sorta what pisses my off about Ellis and his new henchman Ozcooter....they prey on people. I have yet to find one person that has made a million dollars off of mdb as promised.....does mdb work...perhaps some of the time, other times it's a bust.
Then you got this Ozcooter guy who says he wins with Ellis and bets 5k....just to help Ellis win. I bet oz actually is just another braggard solely there to help Ellis fleece the flock.

Rashid · March 07, 2015, 06:54:04 PM

I don't visit ECD's site as I don't want to feel dirty. Can you find out which Oz casino the ozcooter plays at, I might be able to watch out for him..

soxfan · March 07, 2015, 09:00:42 PM

Quote from: Jimske on March 07, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
Seems doubtful that longer runs ocurr less frequently. IMO dice probably one of the best mechanical RNG. But here are some thousands of real dice results from Bailey. Anybody got the time? Count some beans.

Years ago, I crunched some number and compared dice line result with mini-bac results and noriced a different streak signature with longer streaks at the baccarats. Mind you, it was a limited sample size but makes sense with the baccrats drawing rule in favor of the bankers outcome, hey hey.

Bud · March 08, 2015, 01:01:48 AM

Tomla...or anyone..

I lost my Pitboss Strategy and would like to take another look at it. Could someone post it or email it to me at crapwinner﹫aol.com.

Thanks
Bud

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 01:59:51 AM

Rashid-he plays in Australia so he says..lol his probably in Wisconsin and never play much less 5k a hand. Your signature is weird. Do you have multiple personalities or something

confused gambler · March 08, 2015, 10:25:18 AM

I hope nobody here will fall for the flavor of the month from Ellis Davis. Its complete nonsense. I should know, I'm a member there.

Don't join MDB is a rip off. But then again so is NOR, as well as 4D, as well as everything else that crazy man has sold to the public as the answer to you baccarat riches.

Its all stuff.

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 12:34:42 PM

He has some new system getting ready to launch.....I wonder how many of his 4985 members play mdb......some here posted it and all it seems is like a regression of the means....but it seems it can bust very easily......

steve6969 · March 08, 2015, 12:59:15 PM

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 07, 2015, 05:29:09 PM
Well I agree....anything can be said on the Internet. That's sorta what pisses my off about Ellis and his new henchman Ozcooter....they prey on people. I have yet to find one person that has made a million dollars off of mdb as promised.....does mdb work...perhaps some of the time, other times it's a bust.
Then you got this Ozcooter guy who says he wins with Ellis and bets 5k....just to help Ellis win. I bet oz actually is just another braggard solely there to help Ellis fleece the flock.

oz probably making money but I assure you he does not play mdb him and norm play there own way using some ideas from ellis and there own progression