My take on "systems"

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 02:35:38 PM

I read a post from ozcooter that suggest he supported Ellis and the mdb....so I thought he was playing the mdb. So the members at BTC don't even play mdb? I am sure ozcooter is not a professional the way he sucks up to ellis. He is just a hired writer.

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 02:37:12 PM

Confused-since you are a member there what is the private forum like? Do many people post there and show their successful shoes and help others out?

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 03:08:49 PM

Well I'm curious why he charges so much for mdb. ellis reads posts here?jim this thread is about systems right?

confused gambler · March 08, 2015, 04:41:34 PM

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 08, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Confused-since you are a member there what is the private forum like? Do many people post there and show their successful shoes and help others out?

My BTC name is different than my name here, just FYI. The modus operandi for the BTC is Ellis sells his latest system that makes all kinds of promises to beat any and all baccarat games and then the forum spends the next months or years trying to tweak it so it can actually do what Ellis promised in the first place. MDB is no exception. The MDB video with Keith and other members "discussing" how to play MDB is typical of what you'll find on the forum.

Ellis used to teach that you can't win playing a mechanical system but now teaches you can. Go figure.

The guy is a con artist in the highest sense. He is able to con smart people time and time again when they should know better.

My advice to you is not to fall for his BS.

confused gambler · March 08, 2015, 04:55:02 PM

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 08, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Confused-since you are a member there what is the private forum like? Do many people post there and show their successful shoes and help others out?

Oops, I didn't really answer you questions did I?
There are usually just a handful of members that post on the private forum. As far as posting shoes, that always a waste of time in my opinion. The posting shoes is that they are always played after the fact. Try posting a shoe here on this forum. What do you get? Every wanker and his brother stating that they made easy money on such an easy shoe....yeah right. Ellis and his lackeys are always the Kings of showing you how to play AFTER the fact.

So to answer you question, the forum is mostly a ghost town, with a few "know-it-alls" thrown in.

Whiskeypete · March 08, 2015, 09:26:04 PM

Confused....thanks for the info....I was wondering if the private forum is a place where all the members frequent but I guess if it's a ghost town, that's says everything!!
Does ozcooter discuss methods too or is he just a pumper fluffier

WorldBaccaratKing · March 08, 2015, 11:26:51 PM

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 08, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
Confused....thanks for the info....I was wondering if the private forum is a place where all the members frequent but I guess if it's a ghost town, that's says everything!!
Does ozcooter discuss methods too or is he just a pumper fluffier

Careful, there is a MOD here name ADULAY, him and Ellis are buds and he uses Ellis's methods I think to some degree. He may correct me!

ADulay · March 09, 2015, 01:20:11 AM

Quote from: WorldBaccaratKing on March 08, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Careful, there is a MOD here name ADULAY, him and Ellis are buds and he uses Ellis's methods I think to some degree. He may correct me!

Why would he need to "be careful" because of me being here? Am I some sort of direct conduit to ECD's email? (Here's hint.... NOT)

Talk about anybody you want here. Not really any of my business. (Which would also explain my lack of involvement with this thread up to this point).

I'm starting to think a lot of you guys are really getting paranoid or something!

AD

Whiskeypete · March 09, 2015, 06:23:14 AM

Thanks for the advice world king......I was on the BTC site asking questions and some douche bag called me snarky.....imagine that, me snarky....probably another one of ellis boys.....I was trying to feel out the site....people there are rude as stuff.

WorldBaccaratKing · March 11, 2015, 03:29:35 AM

why are posts being deleted? Ellis making noise I guess...

confused gambler · March 11, 2015, 05:04:36 AM

HAHA

Now the few BTC members that are left on the forum are trying to convince Ellis to sell them his latest greatest grail at a discount because they already purchased his other grails....lol

You idiots at BTC don't understand Ellis is making his monthly nut off of you. If his grail systems were so great he could make all the money he needed playing them. And please don't say he does this because Ellis is too old to go the casino. BS. What about online casinos?

Trust me, if there existed baccarat systems that actually did what Ellis say they do, I wouldn't leave the casino. Too ripe.

Keep the scammers hungry don't buy his stuff.

WorldBaccaratKing · March 11, 2015, 01:29:09 PM

Lots of posts GONE. Thought this was about 'transparency'? Guess that didn't fly well. Jimske's MDb base bets are POOF. Wonder why?

Whiskeypete · March 11, 2015, 03:03:11 PM

Wonder who removed them?

Whiskeypete · March 11, 2015, 04:27:48 PM

Jim-are you buying the 2 hi?

WorldBaccaratKing · March 11, 2015, 07:03:48 PM

Quote from: Jimske on March 11, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
I generally get all of Ellis's systems. but I don't study them or play them. I got no interest in them.

I would hope you getting them means for free, otherwise, it makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop....