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[AsymBacGuy]

Yes, if I want to give the illusion of action even though it isn't a mandatory task as in bj, I could spread a lot my bets, but I have to know that my higher bets will be more right than not.
And such conclusion cannot come out from a mere assessment of the actual WL ratio or by some instict feeelings or whatever. Because those last feautures have proven to lead to nowhere.

As roversi sayed, the best thing to do about baccarat is not playing it at all.
The second best thing is to bet so rarely that casinos will be going to hate us, maybe giving our seat to other more actioned players.
And it doesn't take to be a rocket scientist to understand that if we play a lot we're liked and comped and if we rarely bet we're disliked.

Two opposite sides: casinos and players.

The aim of the first side is to have us betting the most. So what should be our best course of action NOT wanting to collaborate in their purpose?

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[Garfield]

Incredible!  Here's a guy who has testified that he makes about 15 bets per shoe on average and wins 54% of his bets.  Okay - let's take him at his word. 54% X 15 bets = W 8.1 and L 6.9 for total win of 1.2 bets per shoe less commission.  A win is a win.  Never knock a win.  I average about 50 bets a shoe with a 52.5% Win.  That comes out to 3 units a shoe less commission.  That's for over 8000 bets which I'm pretty sure that is more bets than the Gr8 one has made in the last two years.  For him that would be about 500 shoes.

Yes a win is a win. I wonder why have to bet 15 hands to win 1 unit? Why bet 50 hands to win 3 unit?

Based on my experience, the 1 unit win might be achieved in the beginning of the shoe. And 3 unit win might be achieved in the 23rd bet. Why not stop there?

I believed this all happened because of the human factor. We always want to achieve more. And for some, they prefer to stop after 15 bets, and for some after 50+ bets.

Bet 15 bets per shoe is different with bet 50 bets per shoe, eventhough the result is different. The stress rate is different. But no one is equal. One might have the strenght to overcome more stress than other.

Bet the way that suits you the best. I believe the "human factor/aspects" is rarely to be discussed. However we are all flesh and blood, not some artificial AI / BOT.

Nb. I believe this discussion is beginning to OOT.

[Jimske]

Yes, if I want to give the illusion of action even though it isn't a mandatory task as in bj, I could spread a lot my bets, but I have to know that my higher bets will be more right than not.
And such conclusion cannot come out from a mere assessment of the actual WL ratio or by some instict feeelings or whatever. Because those last feautures have proven to lead to nowhere.

As roversi sayed, the best thing to do about baccarat is not playing it at all.
The second best thing is to bet so rarely that casinos will be going to hate us, maybe giving our seat to other more actioned players.
And it doesn't take to be a rocket scientist to understand that if we play a lot we're liked and comped and if we rarely bet we're disliked.

Two opposite sides: casinos and players.

The aim of the first side is to have us betting the most. So what should be our best course of action NOT wanting to collaborate in their purpose?

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After reading the above I must wonder if you actually play the game.  Sure, in LV where you live the casinos can prevent one from patronizing even if they don't like the color of ones shoes.  Are you really worried about casino asking you to leave because you are not playing enough hands or whether they like you or not?

It's been a while since I played in LV but I don't recall anyone having any difficulty sitting out hands at Bellagio or others.  In fact the Nugget deals hands whether or not there are bets even placed!  At least they used to.  It is my understanding that in Seattle casinos one can bet the back line whenever one wants.  I play in CT, NJ, PA and MS.  I see players bet just a couple hands a shoe all the time.  Never yet seen any heat on them.

So I'm beginning to think . . . you really don't play, do you?  You ever been asked to give up your seat?