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[esoito]

Some interesting claims made here:   http://www.casinogenius.biz/Home.html


Malcop...ADulay...what's your opinion?

[Albalaha]

This person charges anything from $5,000 to $30,000 for teaching his techniques. He can illustrate his way in a real casino and you can even play along with him. He is from US and his name is Dave Gunas.
                A friend of mine played with him and says he has some merit.

[RouletteKEY]

When I simply googled David Gunas I got a long report from ...let's say...not a fan  http://imspirit.wordpress.com/tag/david-gunas/

In fact, his core betting procedure, which he only very reluctantly offered us an example of, is not at all original. It is exactly the same one Stetson Bailey explained in the introduction of his book Win $1k Per Day At Craps, and is very simple: Start at, say, 10u, and upon a win, go down 1u; or upon a loss, go up 1u. It is simply a D'Alembert with a base bet higher than 1u. When I first learned it from Bailey's book, I immediately ran a computer simulation of it, and conclusively determined for myself it does no better in the long run than simply flat betting.

I have no idea whether there is merit in this review or not...or even if it is accurately describing the system he is actually selling.  I would assume that for $25,000 you get a little better than "start at 10u and go down 1u on a win and up 1u on a loss"...but stranger things do happen.  This was simply the highlight of my extensive 3 minutes of research on the subject and threw it out here as a potential piece of the puzzle...or just misinformation...I'm not passing judgment either way because I have to believe I am missing a bigger part of the picture.

[Albalaha]

It is not simple as that. Nobody will pay such a huge amount to learn a kind of "D'alembert". He claims to win about 85% shoes easily with his methodology.

[Bayes]

I agree that imspirit's analysis is simplistic. Reading his mathematical explanation, IMO it may well have some merit, if only because it sounds similar to the way I play, but I wouldn't advise anyone to shell out 30k for it! Actually, his minimum charge is now $7,500 to teach 2 people.

[Sputnik]

To teach what, i don't understand.
He does not know any secret as there does not exist.
And there is others then just him who win 85% of the shoes, i mean how difficult or easy is that when you use progression.

It would not be a big suprice that he can not gain 100 units with 1000 placed bets flat betting.
And still i assume pepole pay for that kind of garbage.
See it is not many who can pass a simple test like the Van Keelen Test.

I am pretty sure more then just me can do just that.
And i am not selling, other then visual ballistic and bias methods.

So if you think you want to buy, then you would be better of speaking to me.
When it boils down to beat roulette and forget about baccarat.

[Blood Angel]

Interesting Video

[Razor]

Again for one more time we have to say that :

None would sell a method if it was a money maker machine.
The money from the teaching(and a lot more) would be made from real play and he would never like ppl to know about it.

This person has no defference from all the other scammers...
Oh no...he does...He made a video. 

Not to mention that if someone had a method like he claims. the last thing he would do is made a video in youtube for the casinos to see.

This person is a joke.

[ADulay]

Some interesting claims made here:   http://www.casinogenius.biz/Home.html


Malcop...ADulay...what's your opinion?

For starters, that's a pretty lame video.

Second:  Hey!  It's a YouTube video, it  must be good!!

Yes, YouTube is a very good transit for mass consumption and it probably beats having him to spam email everybody who has every logged into a gambling forum, but it's still lame.

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[ADulay]

It is not simple as that. . . . . . .He claims to win about 85% shoes easily with his methodology.

85% shoe win rate is not exceptional.  Most plain Marty's will produce that, right up until you get killed with "The Big One".

I show the last 422 shoes running at 86.02% and I haven't updated that for awhile so perhaps I need some work to do to bring my "shoe data" up to date!  The main problem is that I haven't been playing full shoes over the last year.  Most of my play is now 5 to 10 hands to take a quick profit.   I'll see if I can clear out the shorties and log the full shoes into the spreadsheet for a good update.

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[Albalaha]

He says:
" It has been tested on a 25,000 shoe scenario an it remains extremely profitable overtime.
It is completely based on probability and is purely logic based.
You can count on winning 78% of all shoes and the average win equals the average loss this creating a winning long term expectation. "
           
                         

[Sputnik]

He says:
" It has been tested on a 25,000 shoe scenario an it remains extremely profitable overtime.
It is completely based on probability and is purely logic based.
You can count on winning 78% of all shoes and the average win equals the average loss this creating a winning long term expectation. "
           
                       

I think it is silly, my opinion.
Garbage ...

With progression you can achieve things like that.

[Albalaha]

I think it is silly, my opinion.
Garbage ...

With progression you can achieve things like that.

        Progression never achieves this. Which one does?

[FLAT_IN_O]

        Progression never achieves this. Which one does?

Some do very succ........but only with some/few methods........and reasonably high BR.only way,when to stop when to play
and when to take a smoking time..it's all part of the succ.game...,.even when in losing start of session.

[BacDealer]

Some interesting claims made here:   http://www.casinogenius.biz/Home.html


Malcop...ADulay...what's your opinion?

DON'T PAY ANYTHING!

Anyone who has a very good baccarat method will always offer it FREE.

I play Baccarat pretty approx 2-3 visits per day, 4-5 times per week, 2-6 hrs per visit.
I see many "System Players" at my tables playing side by side and I've yet to see a "Good Working Long Term System"

Do not pay for any system. There are many that are very good.

Keep your money in your pocket and hang out at the baccarat rooms and you will see the winners at most tables because they are loud players.

Follow their techniques and make money.